We’re talking about what it takes to get into the top 10 in Daily/weekly races....not really that far off topic. Chill on the mini-modding 👍
Sorry, I don’t buy it. By that logic, with hard work and practice, anyone could be Senna or Hamilton.
Honestly, I think that is true. The reason why there aren't so many Sennas and Hamiltons in the world is because of opportunities, or lack thereof, than talent. Not everyone starts karting at the age of 2, not everyone gets their talent recognized by the best teams, and not everyone has an equal amount of time that they can devote to racing. If I have to label anything as a talent, it is the rate of which people learn new stuff. This may be why some people still dominate even in spec-racing, but I reckon if you give a whole grid of drivers the same opportunities, the same experiences, and trust that they put the same amount of effort, they will be really close together in terms of pace in a spec-series
You only wrote this when you saw the word "study".
So someone like Lance Stroll or Jolyon Palmer, two guys with basically infinite resources and all the opportunity in the world, why wouldn’t they just “work a little harder” and become as good as Hamilton?Honestly, I think that is true. The reason why there aren't so many Sennas and Hamiltons in the world is because of opportunities, or lack thereof, than talent. Not everyone starts karting at the age of 2, not everyone gets their talent recognized by the best teams, and not everyone has an equal amount of time that they can devote to racing. If I have to label anything as a talent, it is the rate of which people learn new stuff. This may be why some people still dominate even in spec-racing, but I reckon if you give a whole grid of drivers the same opportunities, the same experiences, and trust that they put the same amount of effort, they will be really close together in terms of pace in a spec-series
I was going to write something, then decided not to, but the page saved what I wrote dispite me erasing it. When I responded to alpha, it reappeared at the top above his quote, and I didn’t see it until it posted. Was a mistake, forget it even happened
There’s nothing to indicate that Rosberg didn’t also have some natural ability which he combined with hard work.
So am I what you are speaking of? Or is it rhetoric? To say all you have to do is try. Or does it require steps and things? What is it you are really trying to say?I was going to write something, then decided not to, but the page saved what I wrote dispite me erasing it. When I responded to alpha, it reappeared at the top above his quote, and I didn’t see it until it posted. Was a mistake, forget it even happened
"Not everyone starts karting at the age of 2"
I don’t remember what I was trying to say in that specific post, which is why I never finished writing it, deleted it, and didn’t mean to post it, and asked you to forget it actually uploaded as that was a mistake.
Nah, just takes practice to get to the top 10
And i think that is exactly what it is, it's alway a combination, one of many things. Time, effort, mindset, practice, talent, knowledge, physical or mental ability's, experience and probably many more things. All these things together determine ones potential to perform. Talent alone is just a very small factor in that equation, you cant do top10 on talent alone, talent alone wont get you nowhere, but it is the icing on the cake, that little extra that is rare and very powerfull in combination with all the other ingredients for succes. Thats why there are still quite allot of people who can get close to the limit and get a top10 or close to that and then there is only a very few who can consintently beat that by a few tenths or even a second depending on track.
That’s basically what I’ve been saying. Some people have natural talent, others don’t. The talent, or skill, or genetics, whatever you want to call it, combined with hard work, dedication, practice, etc, can elevate those people to heights that others, who are not “blessed”
in the same way, simply cannot reach, regardless of how much effort, practice, and hard work they put in. Like you say, the natural ability is the icing on the cake, but it does help, especially when talking about micro-gains at the pointy end of the leaderboards.
NmThat’s basically what I’ve been saying. Some people have natural talent, others don’t. The talent, or skill, or genetics, whatever you want to call it, combined with hard work, dedication, practice, etc, can elevate those people to heights that others, who are not “blessed”
Yes especially with the last micro gains at the very pointy end of the leaderbord. Those last couple tenths to get P1 or top 5, on a consistent basis, that's the talent of the blessedThat’s basically what I’ve been saying. Some people have natural talent, others don’t. The talent, or skill, or genetics, whatever you want to call it, combined with hard work, dedication, practice, etc, can elevate those people to heights that others, who are not “blessed”
Up till a couple of tenths from that the hard work and effort counts way way more. I think even enough so to make top10 sometimes.
Depends how many of the blessed show up that week I guess.Yes especially with the last micro gains at the very pointy end of the leaderbord. Those last couple tenths to get P1 or top 5, on a consistent basis, that's the talent of the blessed
I wholeheartedly agree with you, except for the lazy part. You're not wrong that without the needed effort it's only natural that you cannot make it into the Top 10, but the reasons for not putting down the effort may be something other than laziness. It could be work, family, or in my case, school and studying for entrance exams. Maybe priority is also a factor here, since I give around an equal priority to my schoolwork and GTS it could be why I get the occassional Top 10. If I were to reword your last paragraph, it'd be something like this:
