"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pfei]

Guys, keep in mind that brake balance in GTS goes beyond that. It's also ballast. Changing BB affects the car handling under braking as well as acceleration. Just be aware that putting BB towards the front can have a negative effect on front tire wear due to the extra weight at the front.

 

[Steer]

Eugh. The daily race around the Kyoto driving park was horrible last night. I admittedly set a pretty slow qualy time, but thought that I would try a coupe of races anyway. Why does NOBODY break for that awkward triple chicane at the bottom of the hill? When I say they don't brake, what they actually do is use my car as a brake. I think I was taken out at that corner about 5 times in just 2 races.

I should have done what I did last week at Fuji- that is practice for the first half of the week until I get good enough qualy time to put me in among the better drivers, instead of qualifying in among the idiots playing dodgems.

 

[KK78]

Race A - Nissan 300ZX at Alsace = HATE
Race B - Gr. 3 at the incredibly generic Kyoto Driving Park = HATE
Race C - Red Bull X2014 at A1 Ring = Plain daft with all the over enthusiastic rammers

It's weeks like this that make me wonder if PD are trying to stop people actually playing the game and why it completely deserved its lukewarm reviews for its lack of choice in Sports mode.

Yep, it's almost another week on the sidelines for me although I will give Race B a go as it's Gr.3 and it's not a bad track in my view. However the other two options for a whole week is mental imo. I love RBR but not in a car I don't own and certainly don't want to buy and while the 300ZX is not a bad car, around Alsace, it'll be a yawn fest, Alsace only works for me in Gr.4 or above.

It's all subjective but my play time has plummeted since it's gone to weeklies, I'm not against them per say but I'd love a couple of dailies too, save the weeklies purely for Gr.4, 3, 2 and 1 cars.

 

[Dorofint]

Eugh. The daily race around the Kyoto driving park was horrible last night. I admittedly set a pretty slow qualy time, but thought that I would try a coupe of races anyway. Why does NOBODY break for that awkward triple chicane at the bottom of the hill? When I say they don't brake, what they actually do is use my car as a brake. I think I was taken out at that corner about 5 times in just 2 races.

I should have done what I did last week at Fuji- that is practice for the first half of the week until I get good enough qualy time to put me in among the better drivers, instead of qualifying in among the idiots playing dodgems.

You're absolutely right. If you want to avoid all the ramming idiots reasonably you have to train half of the week to have a good starting place. I would much rather enjoy exciting and fair races after a few qualifying rounds, but that does not work anymore. With so much training GT Sport feels more like work than pleasure.

 

[Mr616]

Nowhere near as good as EU's Top 10 times, but I'm pretty happy with getting into Asia's Top 10
I really don't like that track, especially the flow of the turns. But on my second qualifying attempt I was just a tenth behind 10th, so I just went and pushed for it. I'm glad that I finally met my own expectations once more

I agree, the flow of the track is horrible this way round. The downhill tight chicane and the fast downhill esses are horrible.

A 1.33.9xx seems to be my limit at the minute. I may race later but I can see bumping and barging being rife.

 

[Arcflyer]

A 1.33.9xx seems to be my limit at the minute. I may race later but I can see bumping and barging being rife.

What car did you do that with - I'm stuck with 1.34.765 at the moment with the 911

 

[OntzettendeJan]

I love RBR but not in a car I don't own and certainly don't want to buy

Amen brother!

 

[SestoScudo]

RBR race was bad in my opinion the car is is too fast for me to compete and just cannot get used to it with my driving style

 

[Lost Sheltie]

The problem I have this week is time. Daily race B & C will require a decent amount of practice to become competitive. For C I am guessing I will need to be in the 1:07's but I am nowhere near that yet. So will probably be Friday before I feel I can race.

Then we have the FIA races which both require practice as well.

Would be nice if they gave us at least 1 familiar race a week for the people who can't spend hours practising.

 

[Mr616]

What car did you do that with - I'm stuck with 1.34.765 at the moment with the 911

The 911 mate. It's the only thing that's settled over the curbs at "that" chicane. I kinda trail brake gently down the hill and coast the chicane in 3rd. Don't push through it and hammer the throttle on exit. That's where I made my time to get to low 1.34.xxx & 1.33.xxx.

Also the x2 hairpins I found best taken slow hugging the curb and early on throttle to carry exit speed.

It took me 20 plus laps consecutively to break the into the 1.33's racing my own ghost. I was stubborn and wouldn't give up till I'd done it.

 

[fastone371]

You're absolutely right. If you want to avoid all the ramming idiots reasonably you have to train half of the week to have a good starting place. I would much rather enjoy exciting and fair races after a few qualifying rounds, but that does not work anymore. With so much training GT Sport feels more like work than pleasure.

I tried race B 1 time last night, it was my 3rd sport mode race since the change to weekly's and first race in a couple months. As far as the guys saying weekly races are better, they are full of 🤬, I got hit at least as much as I did when they were daily races, so much for seeing better driving with the change to weekly's. I guess I will continue to avoid sport mode like I have been, that's unfortunate because it will really shorten the shelf life of this game

 

[Mr616]

I tried race C 1 time last night, it was my 3rd sport mode race since the change to weekly's and first race in a couple months. As far as the guys saying weekly races are better, they are full of 🤬, I got hit at least as much as I did when they were daily races, so much for seeing better driving with the change to weekly's. I guess I will continue to avoid sport mode like I have been, that's unfortunate because it will really shorten the shelf life of this game

The longer the week goes on, the driving/racing standards improve in my experience. I'd say by Wednesday people will have a handle on race pace.

I prefer the weeklies as I only get a few hours 3 or 4 times a week. It means I can get settled on car/track combo and just jump into races later in the week as my qually is done by Monday/Tuesday. The only problem with weeklies is if the car and track combos aren't to your liking, which they weren't for me a few weeks back. I just set qually times for my mileage and didn't race for the week which isn't ideal.

Maybe race B and C for weekly and race A for a daily or something.

 

[zzz_pt]

I tried race C 1 time last night, it was my 3rd sport mode race since the change to weekly's and first race in a couple months. As far as the guys saying weekly races are better, they are full of 🤬, I got hit at least as much as I did when they were daily races, so much for seeing better driving with the change to weekly's. I guess I will continue to avoid sport mode like I have been, that's unfortunate because it will really shorten the shelf life of this game

If you join a sport mode daily during its first day, no wonder you don't see a difference. It's kinda of expected. Also, you joined Race C, the worse you could possibly choose, since there are more accidents and mistakes being made during races with faster cars.

 

[Mr616]

If you join a sport mode daily during its first day, no wonder you don't see a difference. It's kinda of expected. Also, you joined Race C, the worse you could possibly choose, since there are more accidents and mistakes being made during races with faster cars.

It's race B only for me this week.

By the way, your qually time Although Tidgeny has pipped you by a few tenths

 

[zzz_pt]

It's race B only for me this week.

By the way, your qually time Although Tidgeny has pipped you by a few tenths

It seems to be the best race this week, despite the fact this inverted layout being kinda boring, compared to the regular one.

And thank you. Your time is pretty good too. I wanted to use an unexpected car to qualify and haven't seen any other person using it yet. I could get into the 33:0xx but it's on the limit of the car. On the second sector alone, the Beetle or Porsche get 0.3 tenths faster.

Tidgney is fast in the R8! As usual. ^^

 

[KK78]

There are merits on both sides to either daily or weekly races, it's rather idiotic for some to get all fan boy like about which they prefer.

The sensible option for PD would be to do both, ideally 4 of them (though I won't hold my breath) 2 daily, 2 weekly. The net result at present is clearly a chunk of players are not playing as much because while you would get the odd daily offering that you may avoid, it was only for a day, a week is too long imo.

When we had dailies I completed 302 sport mode races, since the weeklies have come in I only done a further 9 (although there's a 2 week holiday in there)

In the end I'd hope most players can see that having even a small portion of players less playing sport mode is bad for the game at this point.

 

[Invisigoth]

Welp, I decided last night after the disaster of Red Bull I'd give Race A a go and hang at the back to try getting some SR back. That didn't go well . I finished 1 position up from where I started and only saw 2 orange SRs. Sadly, two is enough in that race.

SR stayed the same on 44. GTS played whackamole with my DR, so my holiday to DR/C was brief.

Tonight I gave Race C another crack. Somehow I found myself in P3 on the grid of mixed DRs. I guess we Aussies are an aggressive lot, because the grid was pretty full of us in SR/B. Interestingly though, I found the race itself pretty civil. There were race incidents, but nothing appeared deliberate. People were giving each other room on the straits if someone had more speed coming off the corner. I got knocked off the track on one corner, but it was done gently, like he just couldn't tighten up his line and nudged me off. That dropped me back a fair way. Everyone is very close, aside from the odd spin off, so if you mess up you loose several paces.

I pitted lap 10 for tyres, and got an orange SR on exit, presumably because my pit entry was... unconventional . I finished P8/13.

SR went up by 4, DR went down by about 50.

 

[fastone371]

If you join a sport mode daily during its first day, no wonder you don't see a difference. It's kinda of expected. Also, you joined Race C, the worse you could possibly choose, since there are more accidents and mistakes being made during races with faster cars.

My mistake on that one, I raced race B, I knew race C could be hazardous with fast cars, tight corners, and heavy braking.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

The longer the week goes on, the driving/racing standards improve in my experience. I'd say by Wednesday people will have a handle on race pace.

I prefer the weeklies as I only get a few hours 3 or 4 times a week. It means I can get settled on car/track combo and just jump into races later in the week as my qually is done by Monday/Tuesday. The only problem with weeklies is if the car and track combos aren't to your liking, which they weren't for me a few weeks back. I just set qually times for my mileage and didn't race for the week which isn't ideal.

Maybe race B and C for weekly and race A for a daily or something.

The driving standards improve to a point. I find Thursday's the cleanest for driving standards (still not all that clean in the backfield) then it deteriorates again Friday night and the weekend. Sunday afternoon / evening is the worst. Last Sunday I got rammed out of the way the most while starting in the top 3. Of the just over 180 races I did on the Nord last week: Monday dropped me into the 70's for a bit (driving from the back) while Saturday night and Sunday evening had a dip to the 80's getting hit from behind. The rest of the week people overall behaved at the start. (At least enough to maintain 99 SR) Saturday night and Sunday evening had matchmaking add in lower SR ranks though, not enough SR 99 drivers entering.

 

[Dorofint]

The driving standards improve to a point. I find Thursday's the cleanest for driving standards (still not all that clean in the backfield) then it deteriorates again Friday night and the weekend. Sunday afternoon / evening is the worst. Last Sunday I got rammed out of the way the most while starting in the top 3. Of the just over 180 races I did on the Nord last week: Monday dropped me into the 70's for a bit (driving from the back) while Saturday night and Sunday evening had a dip to the 80's getting hit from behind. The rest of the week people overall behaved at the start. (At least enough to maintain 99 SR) Saturday night and Sunday evening had matchmaking add in lower SR ranks though, not enough SR 99 drivers entering.

That's logical. At the beginning many mistakes are made because the drivers do not know the races that way. It calmed down in the middle of the week. At the end of the week, all those who have not been so successful try to succeed. Then many of them drive very aggressively and use the unfair tricks. Fuji on Saturday and Sunday was a battlefield. Constantly some drivers have tried to overtake with divebombing or braking too late. The route invites some drivers to do so and is therefore a disaster in this respect.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Trying to learn Yamagiwa backwards without looking at footage is annoying. The kerbing and in-game brake markers are far way more conservative than they typically are, causing me to leave so much time on the track. It's probably the first time I've had to watch footage just to even get close to the 5 second range of the top times.

I should probably study more footage.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

That's logical. At the beginning many mistakes are made because the drivers do not know the races that way. It calmed down in the middle of the week. At the end of the week, all those who have not been so successful try to succeed. Then many of them drive very aggressively and use the unfair tricks. Fuji on Saturday and Sunday was a battlefield. Constantly some drivers have tried to overtake with divebombing or braking too late. The route invites some drivers to do so and is therefore a disaster in this respect.

It's also the weekend which invites school kids
Wait, I'm one of them. Oh no

 

[svenvangent]

Starting first place GT3 , second lap hit by second driver ( he don't get any penalty for it ) I'm 7 place than Porsche comes along hit me ones 14pl hit me twice last place " AND IN AAAAAAAAAALL CIRCUMSTANCE PLEASE STAY CALM "..... nops not me there go's my SR Porsche in front of me and I asked him.....lets dance back from A to B .

 

[Mr616]

The driving standards improve to a point. I find Thursday's the cleanest for driving standards (still not all that clean in the backfield) then it deteriorates again Friday night and the weekend. Sunday afternoon / evening is the worst. Last Sunday I got rammed out of the way the most while starting in the top 3. Of the just over 180 races I did on the Nord last week: Monday dropped me into the 70's for a bit (driving from the back) while Saturday night and Sunday evening had a dip to the 80's getting hit from behind. The rest of the week people overall behaved at the start. (At least enough to maintain 99 SR) Saturday night and Sunday evening had matchmaking add in lower SR ranks though, not enough SR 99 drivers entering.

Saturday and Sunday daytime is bad sometimes yet others can be surprisingly clean. I think in some lobbies, the mid pack/grid drivers sometimes feel they can gain DR on the drivers ahead and take unnecessary risks to do so, and as the quote below mentions, some tracks/corners invite overtaking where there is just no chance (fast sweeping chicanes or reducing radius corners).

That's logical. At the beginning many mistakes are made because the drivers do not know the races that way. It calmed down in the middle of the week. At the end of the week, all those who have not been so successful try to succeed. Then many of them drive very aggressively and use the unfair tricks. Fuji on Saturday and Sunday was a battlefield. Constantly some drivers have tried to overtake with divebombing or braking too late. The route invites some drivers to do so and is therefore a disaster in this respect.

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I didn't race Fuji. I had one 1 lap pace, and my racepace wasn't bad, but I just couldn't trust others to play fair there yet. To many wide entries to corners which some see (wrongly) as "door left open".

 

[Invisigoth]

Not at all happy with the SR drop last night, I tried to claw back some SR. A second go at Race C posted earlier got me a few, but pretty slim pickings. Did a couple of laps of Race B just to get a vague sense of the track then entered. I had 3 cracks at Race B, with the WRX, Viper and AMG GT3. Started 2nd last from each race.

Race C was pretty clean considering everyone was SR/B. Race B was a different story . Talk about carnage! People didn't bother worrying if there was another car already cornering , they just crash through as though they are the only ones on the track! I watched the chaos unfold as people started to take each other out. I always made up a few positions in every race.

After 3 Race Bs and a Race C my DR dropped about 1k, and I clawed back 6 SR. Another day above DR 1 .

 

[djidane57]

we barely see a GR3/yamagiwa anymore but they had to put the reverse one , way to troll us trollypony again

 

[dustyknuckles]

Definitely made the mistake of trying race C too soon. Just like the FIA race with the F1 car, too many bumps and penalties due to most drivers not knowing how to race in proximity with the super fast twitchy cars (myself included considering the couple taps I gave in braking zones). I dropped down from S to B SR after two races, but that race is also best to grind back up. Thankfully in my last race I was able to gap the B drivers by a lot and run by myself in P1 to earn a clean race and get back to A before calling it a night.

 

[Darwock]

When we had dailies I completed 302 sport mode races, since the weeklies have come in I only done a further 9 (although there's a 2 week holiday in there)

In the end I'd hope most players can see that having even a small portion of players less playing sport mode is bad for the game at this point.

In contrast, out of my 400+ races, only around 20-30 were done when it was daily changes. I had no time to play properly and had to jump in cold, usually crashing off and running at the back. There was literally no point in there being three races as I would never even get to look at two of them. And the next day I was back to square one.

That means I haven't won a race in 2018 sadly, as I only started getting back into Sport mode a few weeks ago.

Last night I nearly broke that losing streak. I was running in 3rd on race B when 1st and 2nd had a squabble that took them both off track. I had to take avoiding action to pass them coming back on and that earned me a shortcut penalty (weird value like 3.280 seconds). I led the race to the finish but that penalty dropped me back to 3rd. I served it before the line so didn't even cross the line first. Gutted. I've never won in Gr.3.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Finally got into the 1:36's today for my qualifying time and consistently hitting 1:37 race pace time if I have a relatively clear track in front of me. I'm starting to see how making good arcs and creating a good flow through the course begins to knock tenth's off your time. My motocross lines might be good for certain race situations but they are definitely not good for qualifying. Its also starting to become more apparent that a wheel is definitely in my future. I can see that there is definitely a lot of places where I'm "scrubbing" time because I'm not very smooth with a controller. There are a lot of people who are good with controllers.....I'm just not one of them. I think it'll help me with consistency if anything as well as making it way easier to manual shift. I know you can do it with a controller but thats just waaaaay too much going on for me. Not to mention there's a lot of places on the track that I need to be a gear lower but auto transmission forces me into another gear

 

[CurbHog]

I have had a great time with Race B during the last two days.
Several podiums and one win. Now when I have started to accumulate some points I start to get matched with higher ranked and I slip down on the starting grid.
I’m driving the Lancer and I feel that he is really stable for the tricky s-chicane.
The chicane can be a disaster if you have people in front wiping out and then people in the back that come in too fast.