"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Veinz]

I was in your race just now, please ignore my erm... embarrassing lap 1 incident. 🤬

I was fighting with the American driver towards the end and he hits my car going into the corner before Indianapolis and then slows down intentionally, giving me a 🤬 two second penalty.

Something similar happened to me at the same corner with the person I was talking about.

I close off the inside very early since he had the slipstream, but he’s one of those people that just have to have the inside line no matter what, so he takes the grass to force himself on it by nudging me out of the way. As soon as he got in front of me he immediately threw down the anchors when it’s normally a flatout corner. This is happening at over 350 km/h, I had no time to react and hit him giving me a 3 second penalty.

He spun out two corners later though so the penalty did not hurt as much.

 

[Mr616]

but he’s one of those people that just have to have the inside line no matter what, so he takes the grass to force himself on it by nudging me out of the way. As soon as he got in front of me he immediately threw down the anchors when it’s normally a flatout corner.

This infuriates me. They leave such a shallow entry they'll never make it, bump you out of the way then call you an idiot in chat.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬's

 

[HERE4BEER3]

Any car suggestions for race b this week. My trusty Mazda Atenza ain't working at this track.

Weird, I've gotten my best time with the Atenza so far. (1:40s), It must be my hideous Mr. Sparkle Livery.

 

[Veinz]

This infuriates me. They leave such a shallow entry they'll never make it, bump you out of the way then call you an idiot in chat.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬's

If he would have just taken the normal line he probably would have cleared me then I would give up the position since it was too risky to race through there anyway. Smh.

 

[Qyn]

In qualifying, if you used your split times instead of radar, you will see your sector times with an optimal best shown at the very bottom.

If you are in the qualifying menu page (after you do a few runs) go to session results next to replay in the top left corner. This will show your laps with best sectors in green, and will also show your optimum lap time in black under all of your listed times in that session.

Wow! I had no idea . I'll be sure to check it out when I fire up the game later. Thanks a million 👍.

When you have completed your test laps, your are presented with a list of your lap times. If you look at the bottom lines of sector times, it has your optimal time. If you best time is close to your optimal time, then there may not be much more room for improvement. If on the other hand, there is a big difference then you need to keep trying to get that special lap.

Thanks! Maybe this what I've been missing to get me over the "mid to low DR/B" hump. Kind of gives me a target. Once again my extended GTP family has come through . Much appreciated @Arcflyer, and @Mr616 .

Edit: I gotta figure out how to use this multi quote tool. Sorry for the double posts Mods.

 

[chaseter]

Weird, I've gotten my best time with the Atenza so far. (1:40s), It must be my hideous Mr. Sparkle Livery.

Maybe i need to paint.

BMW Z4. At least in my C/S & B/S level races, it's good for a top 5 finish every time when starting mid pack.

Thanks I will buy one.

 

[Kalder]

I don't understand why I get SR down for this, at least he got a penalty for it.

So not fair... And man am I struggling with getting my SR up lately... I keep ending up in situations like this, where someone else causes me to loose SR, I even once got a penalty for getting smashed off the road, and I 100% wasn't braking early.
I don't want to race at the end of the pack just to get my SR up, I want to at least also try and get a decent result, but some people just find it funny to annoy you while you have done nothing to harm them.
I also once rage quit a race, but that was because some

Spoiler: curseword

"grandmother penetrator with a giant dildo up his ..."

had managed to push me into the pitstop and for what good, he crashed against the guardrails between the pits and the track... too bad I didn't make a video of that, because that was crazy. [Edit: Wait a minute, I did make a video of that just hadn't trimmed it jet, be right back]

 

[ASH32]

You kind of did cause the accident, at least jointly, the ghosting and un-ghosting certainly didn't help matters but in any case you'll have got SR - because of hitting the wall.

 

[Kalder]

Ok here's the one that pushed me in the pitstop:

He really ruined my mood. Had to leave the game for a while...

 

[NevilleNobody]

You kind of did cause the accident, at least jointly, the ghosting and un-ghosting certainly didn't help matters but in any case you'll have got SR - because of hitting the wall.

Huh?? How did he do anything to contribute?

TBH I am finding things the opposite, no matter WHAT i do my SR stays stubbornly high. I accidently rear ended a bloke last night, he went careening off and dropped numerous places. Race ends and my SR is still 99

 

[ASH32]

Yes you were not at fault for that one, that's all them but you could see it coming a mile off and yet you carried on letting them push you when it was clear they were not going to stop, back out of it and you'll lose a lot less than being pushed into the pits.

 

[rono_thomas]

In qualifying, if you used your split times instead of radar, you will see your sector times with an optimal best shown at the very bottom.

Also in qualifying if using your split times instead of the radar, if you push up/down can’t remember which way you will cycle through session best and car record at that track, so your ultimate optimal will be displayed - it remembers even if you’ve turned the PS4 off (credit @Alpha Cipher for this).

 

[Mr616]

Also in qualifying if using your split times instead of the radar, if you push up/down can’t remember which way you will cycle through session best and car record at that track, so your ultimate optimal will be displayed - it remembers even if you’ve turned the PS4 off (credit @Alpha Cipher for this).

Thanks for the heads up. You learn something new everyday!

Thanks @Alpha Cipher as well. Cheers

 

[Kalder]

Yes you were not at fault for that one, that's all them but you could see it coming a mile off and yet you carried on letting them push you when it was clear they were not going to stop, back out of it and you'll lose a lot less than being pushed into the pits.

When I realized he wasn't going to back down I couldn't go anywhere anymore
I was kinda suprised he did what he did, so I was a little distracted, I could have braked but I realized the situation too late.

 

[ASH32]

Huh?? How did he do anything to contribute?

He did he move across the front of the car un-ghosting, of course as the guy that went off that driver should have been far more careful too but instead behaved just as you'd expect the average sport mode driver to behave. Avoidable incident by everyone no matter who was most at fault.

As sad as it is, sometimes you have to go out of your way to avoid incidents otherwise you'll end up in a lot and you won't get the places back by being innocent and the drivers in the wrong won't be banned. Of course this is always easier to judge afterwards and I'll have done many similar things myself in the heat of the battle.

 

[NevilleNobody]

He did he move across the front of the car un-ghosting,

No he didn't, he was minding his own business and the ghost came out of absolutely NOWHERE and tagged him. No idea what outr man was supposed to do.

 

[Mr616]

He did he move across the front of the car un-ghosting, of course as the guy that went off that driver should have been far more careful too but instead behaved just as you'd expect the average sport mode driver to behave. Avoidable incident by everyone no matter who was most at fault.

As sad as it is, sometimes you have to go out of your way to avoid incidents otherwise you'll end up in a lot and you won't get the places back by being innocent and the drivers in the wrong won't be banned. Of course this is always easier to judge afterwards and I'll have done many similar things myself in the heat of the battle.

I often wonder what other racers think of the close racing they watch on YT that's super clean and close. Do they think you just drive round and do what you want and that it just works out that way?

As you know, it doesn't. You have to have eyes in the back of your head, predict other peoples movements to minimise risk, predict people making mistakes. It is NOT as easy as just driving round fast. Some times it's the second or third race against the same people that gets close because you build up trust in the people you race.

Racing close and clean is hard work. It may look easy to some, but it isn't. If you're in lower ranked lobbies, people are even more unpredictable because they are not consistent, so even more care is needed.

I'm replying to you, but none of this is applicable to you lol.

@Kalder This was meant for you really. You have to second guess everything that is going on. Don't just presume you are in the right, or that someone else should avoid something. Look out for yourself.

 

[Kalder]

I often wonder what other racers think of the close racing they watch on YT that's super clean and close. Do they think you just drive round and do what you want and that it just works out that way?

As you know, it doesn't. You have to have eyes in the back of your head, predict other peoples movements to minimise risk, predict people making mistakes. It is NOT as easy as just driving round fast. Some times it's the second or third race against the same people that gets close because you build up trust in the people you race.

Racing close and clean is hard work. It may look easy to some, but it isn't. If you're in lower ranked lobbies, people are even more unpredictable because they are not consistent, so even more care is needed.

I'm replying to you, but none of this is applicable to you lol.

@Kalder This was meant for you really. You have to second guess everything that is going on. Don't just presume you are in the right, or that someone else should avoid something. Look out for yourself.

Yea I agree, but I've had a taste of being an SR:S DR:B driver and there close racing was pretty doable.. but I guess you're right about being in the lower ranked lobbies.
I should try to anticipate better, but in the case of the first video, I couldn't do much about it, I saw my chance to get in front of him, I took it, in my opinion he should have slowed down for me since he was returning to the track, yet he taps me on the side.

 

[Mr616]

No he didn't, he was minding his own business and the ghost came out of absolutely NOWHERE and tagged him. No idea what outr man was supposed to do.

For how long the car was ghosted, he could've stayed slightly left anticipating the unghosting. The guy ghosted should've also tried to not be in the way, but this is what I meant by predicting things and protecting yourself from getting caught up in incidents. If you can avoid it, blame doesn't matter.

I'm not claiming it's easy, and with everything going on in a race mistakes happen, but try to minimise risk if the people you race against are not familiar to you.

 

[ASH32]

I often wonder what other racers think of the close racing they watch on YT that's super clean and close. Do they think you just drive round and do what you want and that it just works out that way?

As you know, it doesn't. You have to have eyes in the back of your head, predict other peoples movements to minimise risk, predict people making mistakes. It is NOT as easy as just driving round fast. Some times it's the second or third race against the same people that gets close because you build up trust in the people you race.

Racing close and clean is hard work. It may look easy to some, but it isn't. If you're in lower ranked lobbies, people are even more unpredictable because they are not consistent, so even more care is needed.

I'm replying to you, but none of this is applicable to you lol.

Oh it is, I do dumb sometimes just like everyone, just maybe not as often as the average sport mode driver. I'm not the perfect driver yet, I've areas to improve on too. Cars going all over the track can off put me for sure and I have had out of control cars take me out and be like yep you should have seen that coming you idiot, why did you go there, etc. Radar helps but I do use the hood view so no mirror, I can't see everything coming, sometimes they get me.

When I race from the back on my GTP account, there are so many people just ready to take you out or act unpredictably, I can certainly see why some struggle to keep it clean when they are amongst that all the time, especially if they are at a similar level pace wise to these people. The game certainly does not help either as even though it ghosts cars it gets it wrong a lot, cars are always un-ghosting just when you don't want them to and ghosting when they should not. I'm not sure it's much of an improvement on what it used to be, if anything it just encourages you to ignore the ghost cars and then they end up un-ghosting and hitting you and causing as much trouble as they would if they were never a ghost in the first place.

Also I hope people don't think I'm attacking them when I say something I think they could have done differently since I'm just trying to help them avoid incidents (often caused by others) and I do this to myself sometimes too when I watch my own driving back.

 

[NevilleNobody]

For how long the car was ghosted, he could've stayed slightly left anticipating the unghosting.

That's just hindsight, who knows where that car was going, it was all over the place, complete guessing game. He did nothing wrong.

 

[ASH32]

That's just hindsight, who knows where that car was going, it was all over the place, complete guessing game. He did nothing wrong.

I'd say if kalder stayed left behind that other car the ghosting guy would have tried to overtake both around the outside at the hairpin and gone off again, of course that may not have happened but after watching that small clip of their driving it would have to be the favourite of the three things I could see happening there.

 

[Arcflyer]

Me too, do some more tests tomorrow. No racing. Trying to keep some of my Sr/Dr. safe in the "bank".....

Spent another half hour going round the track with the Mustang and managed to improve to 1:39.686 - a little more respectful, just outside the top 200 in emea

 

[Mr616]

That's just hindsight, who knows where that car was going, it was all over the place, complete guessing game. He did nothing wrong.

I'm not saying he did anything wrong per say. But a ghosted car for that length of time is going to unghost. There is no blame game. I've broke for ghosted cars if they ghost for more than a second, just incase the solidify.

As I say its on the fly risk assessment.

Edit he may have stayed left and still got hit. Who knows.

Ive made plenty of errors myself n wished I'd done things differently.

 

[TetsuKobura]

Lost a potential win in because the **** in front who I caught served his penalty on the racing line and unghosted in front of me.

Oh well, I’ll take the +300 DR.

 

[bone_tone]

If it isn't for the looks, don't "swing" your back out .

Seriously, you're right - there's a lot of time to be gained there. You should be quicker though, if you turn as smooth as possible ... don't unsettle the car.

Think I'm closer to your qualifying time than I've ever been before RJ! Another car/track combination that suits my slow but steady approach....

I've gained 4100 DR points in races today (and zero SR damage too), by managing to move well forward in every race - it's amazing to see how slow people become once they start overdriving the car, going too deep into the corners, and braking too late. Rolling the car around some of the corners seems to work well.

 

[Mr616]

Oh it is, I do dumb sometimes just like everyone, just maybe not as often as the average sport mode driver. I'm not the perfect driver yet, I've areas to improve on too. Cars going all over the track can off put me for sure and I have had out of control cars take me out and be like yep you should have seen that coming you idiot, why did you go there, etc. Radar helps but I do use the hood view so no mirror, I can't see everything coming, sometimes they get me.

When I race from the back on my GTP account, there are so many people just ready to take you out or act unpredictably, I can certainly see why some struggle to keep it clean when they are amongst that all the time, especially if they are at a similar level pace wise to these people. The game certainly does not help either as even though it ghosts cars it gets it wrong a lot, cars are always un-ghosting just when you don't want them to and ghosting when they should not. I'm not sure it's much of an improvement on what it used to be, if anything it just encourages you to ignore the ghost cars and then they end up un-ghosting and hitting you and causing as much trouble as they would if they were never a ghost in the first place.

Also I hope people don't think I'm attacking them when I say something I think they could have done differently since I'm just trying to help them avoid incidents (often caused by others) and I do this to myself sometimes too when I watch my own driving back.

Completely missed your post somehow.

Very well put. Just reread my post and it reads a bit high horse-ish when I really didn't mean it like that.

We're all learning something new in nearly every race.

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Think I'm closer to your qualifying time than I've ever been before RJ! Another car/track combination that suits my slow but steady approach....

I've gained 4100 DR points in races today (and zero SR damage too), by managing to move well forward in every race - it's amazing to see how slow people become once they start overdriving the car, going too deep into the corners, and braking too late. Rolling the car around some of the corners seems to work well.

Thx and congrats, BT. Took me quite some time to get accustomed to the car and I wasn't really pleased in the end, always thought I should be able to get the power down earlier after cornering. To me it's a lot about self-discipline with the RX-7, the required early breaking alone ... So I imagine races might get very thrilling at times approaching your breaking point with a bunch of hotheads behind !

 

[bone_tone]

So I imagine races might get very thrilling at times approaching your breaking point with a bunch of hotheads behind

Exactly! You either have to turn in quick, and hope they miss your rear corner, or go deep into the corner, and hope they shoot past on the inside and into the barrier!

 

[Kalder]

This is how I want to race I got that quali by using TC 0 but I didn't feel like taking a risk in the race so I set it on 2 during the race (I'm not yet very comfortable with TC 0, need to do it more but in some cars I really can't drive with TC at 0), still a good race for my doing, also set the fastest lap