"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[GT5Power]

@Melbourne Park Short shifting is very effective; it allows me to go the entire race distance in the 908 using fuel map 1 and I assume it's the same for the R18. The TS050 is a bit slower on maximum pace, however it makes up for it in the race by barely having to save fuel. On TCS, I've gotten quite a bit faster since I turned it off last Friday so I can only recommend it.

 

[Invisigoth]

Btw intermediate tires are for wet tracks, which aren't in the game (yet). No clue why the game lets you select them yet they are always slower.

I do remember reading that they were planning on adding weather to the mix at some point. I predict it will be more or less the same experience as the GrB tarmac races . I'm more interested in knowing when they are going to add penalty zones to the weeklies .

Short shifting is very effective; it allows me to go the entire race distance in the 908 using fuel map 1 and I assume it's the same for the R18. The TS050 is a bit slower on maximum pace, however it makes up for it in the race by barely having to save fuel. On TCS, I've gotten quite a bit faster since I turned it off last Friday so I can only recommend it.

Short shifting alone is pretty hard to do a no stop on with the Group C cars. Managed with the Nissan but only barely. Whilst reducing TC is supposed to make you faster, I found on some cars it just makes things worse. Reducing TC usually requires to be smoother. I was actuallly lapping faster in the R92 when I bumped the TC up .

 

[Pigems]

I think they should rotate the days that the daily races change, like for example say race A changes over on Monday’s, B on Wednesday and C on Fridays, this way it wouldn't seem like we have the same old raced for as long maybe.

 

[6BK]

Some clean racing at Fuji last night got me from 69 SR to 85 and back to SR S. It’s amazing how much fun this game can be when the others playing want to race clean too.

2 races this morning and I’m back to 68. Equally amazing how annoying when others don’t want to race clean. I absolutely hate these guys who get passed in a fair move and either try to side swip while you are doing it or deliberately plough into you after. I’m equally getting frustrated with a game that is persistently punning me for other people’s bad behavior.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Some clean racing at Fuji last night got me from 69 SR to 85 and back to SR S. It’s amazing how much fun this game can be when the others playing want to race clean too.

2 races this morning and I’m back to 68. Equally amazing how annoying when others don’t want to race clean. I absolutely hate these guys who get passed in a fair move and either try to side swip while you are doing it or deliberately plough into you after. I’m equally getting frustrated with a game that is persistently punning me for other people’s bad behavior.

Indeed the penalty system can be infuriating

4 sec penalty, red S, race ruined. Dive from 0.825 seconds behind...

I can easily get back to 99 on the daily C, yet with the few points of A and B this will quickly get you down to SR.B

 

[Invisigoth]

I don't normaly do multiple races in a night, but I needed to grab some SR back .. I will need it when people use me as their brakes in race C .
Two runs at Fuji from last place. Both mixed grids of mostly DR/A and B so I would have started in the last 5 positions anyway .

First run in the Trophy. Not great on the straits but stable and easy to handle.. as shown by a clean race bonus. In a race with other DR/Ds I'm pretty confident that I will beat at least one of them . Finished one place up. Dropped about 500 DR (better than the 1k I thought I might loose) and gained 6 SR.

Next race more less the same deal, this time with the WRX, still in it's Bathurst livery because I didn't have time to change outfits. I have TC off in the rexy, it helps it turn in. T1 at Fuji is a bit of a bother. Have to feed the power in gradually on exit or it continues to rotate... didn't have that problem at Bathurst! I didn't have any contact, no penalties, yet only got 4 instead of 6 SR.

Now to wait for midnight or half past midnight with the Tomahawk . Think tomorrow night I might drive the 919... maybe paint it pink with dotted lines denoting cuts of meat......

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Never thought I'd miss the Shelby race...

At least it was clean.

 

[Melbourne Park]

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Short shifting alone is pretty hard to do a no stop on with the Group C cars. Managed with the Nissan but only barely. Whilst reducing TC is supposed to make you faster, I found on some cars it just makes things worse. Reducing TC usually requires to be smoother. I was actuallly lapping faster in the R92 when I bumped the TC up .

I used to be faster in the GR3 Porsche with TC on "2". I would spin a lot with TC off. But now I am faster with TC off in the Porsche and the car feels better.

With the GR1 cars, I've not raced them and my main issue is spinning tyres on the raised red and white curbs/rumble strips , and also, I spin the tyres on the tarmac coming out of corners. I spin the tyres coming out of Tertre Rouge, and loose ground. But when I exit Arrange and spin the tyres in 2nd gear in the peugeot 908, I gain more than if I eased the throttle in. What most concerns me though is if I run onto a curb in the Mulsanne Straight chicanes, I can loose the car. I suspect in the race I could just go hard early with TC and get away with it.

But evidently with gear changes you loose less without TC when you're accelerating. The best thing about no TC though is I feel the car much more, its seems more alive / responsive to me. But more easy to crash until you really understand a circuit.

 

[Invisigoth]

I used to be faster in the GR3 Porsche with TC on "2". I would spin a lot with TC off. But now I am faster with TC off in the Porsche and the car feels better.

I too have the Gr3 911 on TC2. It just doesn't turn in the way it used to with the standard TC 3 after the update a couple of updates ago. For Gr3 and 4 I kinda like to steer with the rear .

But evidently with gear changes you loose less without TC when you're accelerating. The best thing about no TC though is I feel the car much more, its seems more alive / responsive to me. But more easy to crash until you really understand a circuit.

You use a wheel don't you? I don't. With my driving style I certainly don't get any more feel from less traction control, and with the R92 in my hands, I was getting more wheel spin in the lower gears changing up. To me that's just extra tyre wear. For Race A or B that doesn't matter, but when I'm trying to do the whole Race C on one set of tyres, I need *all* the help I can get!

 

[Phoenix]

Daily race A, TVR Tuscan Speed 6.

First race went fine, no problem.

The next 2 races I get kicked back to the daily race screen when I have loaded into the race after matchmaking... Not sure what causing this.
No error code or nothing. Just jumps back out to the race screen.

My internet is more than fine, even wired. The internet test in GT Sport also shows great connection.

Bloody annoying...

I need those last 80 races completed darnit.

 

[Invisigoth]

No fight left or so it seems. I'm a man who's dreams have all deserted.... The circus continues...the disappointment and broken dreams that is Race C. I got within a couple of tenths of my R92 time, but I just ran out of time. P13/17 on a mixed grid with an A+, a couple of As, mostly Bs, a lone C and three of us DR/Ds .

Auto drive dumps me mid chicane at Ford, but somehow I managed to get to the start/finish line without picking up any penalties or scratches to the paint. I was doing well with no penalties in P10 on lap 3 when I was hit from behind (orange SR), then slammed into the sand at Arnage, a la @Sven Jurgens . Down to P16 with another orange SR and a 3s penalty . Race C is usually an opportunity to re-gain SR, but this time round they seem to be excessively stingy. I managed to pull off a no stop in the Tomahawk with short shifting and tall gears where I could manage (5th gear for Tertre Rouge and from the beginning of Porsche to the Ford Chicane.). Finished P10 with a red SR and a red dot.

SR dropped 4, Dr went up 400. Could be worse! Another day above DR 1 .

 

[ste.sully]

TS050 goes all the way on FM1 no stop in AT.

The rest all need fuel saving

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Mazda LM55 3.9 laps

4.4 laps needs FM2 x 3 laps, FM3 x 2 laps.
Audi R18 '16 needs FM3 all the way.
Mazda needs FM3 / FM4 50/50

The TS050 can't go the entire race on FM1. I ran out of fuel near the end of the last lap so you'll have to go down to FM2 once you're off Mulsanne straight.

 

[ShiftingGears]

The TS050 can't go the entire race on FM1. I ran out of fuel near the end of the last lap so you'll have to go down to FM2 once you're off Mulsanne straight.

I got caught out with this on MT when i finished lap 3 and I got the 1.1 laps remaining warning.

 

[ste.sully]

Indeed the penalty system is infuriating

Corrected it for you

 

[Rexracer702]

I raced 3 times last night in C. Ran the TS050 in all 3. I can't seem to get through the first lap clean! I've had no trouble with a no stop, and am not really doing anything to save fuel. Also, I ran all 3 races with no draft for the most part, since I screwed up L1 every time and either ended up behind, or in the case of my second race, where I was in a slower room and had P4 on the grid, I ended up in a gap where I was alone most of the race. That one I finished P6, but the other 2 I was around 10th.
I think I'll try the 908 tonight. In the TS050 I can run well when alone, but the other cars have so much more top speed that they're coming fast in the braking zone, and often bounce me at the apex, or in one case last night, after my terrible start and fall to the rear, I managed to get back up to 7th or 8th, right behind @Sven Jurgens (Okay, 20 seconds back...) and I had 2 cars on my tail going into Indy. I'd already been bumped wide in the first chicane by one of them, so I didn't want it to happen again and took an inside line...too deep and went wide because of the bad line...both went by.
I wish there was a way to control the KERS (or whatever it is in that TS050) It works great coming out of Indy for the short chute into Arnage, but then it's gone for the drive out of Arnage. I would much rather not use it for the short chute there, and have it coming out of Arnage for the much longer run to the Porsche Curves. That would probably get me a second on lap time in that car. It it's application automatic??

Lots of talk on TC with these cars. I have a wheel and pedals and don't use TC. I find that in most of the cars, I can hammer on the gas in second gear without a problem as long as I have a little roll speed, and almost no lateral G's. I usually roll through the 2nd gear corners with slight acceleration only, then hammer when I'm done with steering input. The second chicane in the TS I roll on a bit harder because of the cornering speed I have. The only exception is the Nissan 92(out of the cars I've driven). I use TC2 because it seems to be the fastest for 2nd gear, otherwise the tires just light up and I'm backpedaling all the time. Higher gears with no TC are easy in the cars I've tried, and once into 3rd and 4th, full throttle is no problem unless cornering on the edge of traction in 3rd. To be fair, most of my miles are in the TS050 and the 92.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

So I am sat here by my laptop and console frustrated as I will ever get.

After loosing all my DR multiple times in recent weeks I set myself down this morning and redid qualifying for all
three races.

Race A: 0::56.459
Race B: 1:42.707
Race C: 3:23.194

Now it won't match make me with a D group of drivers! Have I done too well with my qualifying or is it just random luck
with the servers?

It's frustrating because I am no better than I was when I was running with my slower qualifying times.

 

[Pigems]

The TS050 can't go the entire race on FM1. I ran out of fuel near the end of the last lap so you'll have to go down to FM2 once you're off Mulsanne straight.

I got caught out with this on MT when i finished lap 3 and I got the 1.1 laps remaining warning.

I’ve been using the TS050 the entire time and haven’t had to touch the FM once yet, I typically get the 1.3 laps remaining of fuel just before crossing the line on lap 4 to start lap 5, I haven’t had to pit a single time yet.

 

[sturk0167]

Here's what I learned about the lower level race C, last night. I did some races in the SR B rooms, and thought I could just do my normal race and get a top 5 with a blue letter at the end. Nope. It seems that most of them are not strategy guys. I was doing my usual FM3 for 3 laps and FM4 for 2 laps, while averaging about 4 or 5 orange SR downs per race, from being rear ended.

At first, I didn't get it. I was just thinking these dudes are just as fast as the S group. Then I saw that most of them pitted. Which did allow me to get podium finishes, but always with a white mark at the end, and no SR gain. I kept doing the same thing, with the same result. Although, I beat most of them, they roughed me up when they went by at FM1.

I don't know if I'll do it again, before Monday. But if I do, I'll go FM1 and make a fuel stop. It's the only way to avoid the rear bumps from this group.

Remember this if you find yourself in one of the lower groups.

 

[seadog777]

So I am sat here by my laptop and console frustrated as I will ever get.

After loosing all my DR multiple times in recent weeks I set myself down this morning and redid qualifying for all
three races.

Race A: 0::56.459
Race B: 1:42.707
Race C: 3:23.194

Now it won't match make me with a D group of drivers! Have I done too well with my qualifying or is it just random luck
with the servers?

It's frustrating because I am no better than I was when I was running with my slower qualifying times.

Your qually times look great to me! Wish I could get close. You're probably well out of D class.... good job!

 

[GT5Power]

So I am sat here by my laptop and console frustrated as I will ever get.

After loosing all my DR multiple times in recent weeks I set myself down this morning and redid qualifying for all
three races.

Race A: 0::56.459
Race B: 1:42.707
Race C: 3:23.194

Now it won't match make me with a D group of drivers! Have I done too well with my qualifying or is it just random luck
with the servers?

It's frustrating because I am no better than I was when I was running with my slower qualifying times.

I can't comprehend how matchmaking works. The other day I went into a race (DR/A, SR/S) and not a single one of my opponents was above DR/C. My qualifying time was over 4 seconds clear of 2nd place, so it's unlikely that it depends on that.

By the way, your Sarthe time would put you near the top of the grid in an A lobby

 

[Rexracer702]

I’ve been using the TS050 the entire time time on MY and haven’t had to touch the FM once yet, I typically get the 1.3 laps remaining of fuel just before crossing the line on lap 4 to start lap 5, I haven’t had to pit a single time yet.

That has been my experience, too. Manual tranny, I never go down to 1st unless I've stopped. I think the earliest I got the 1.3 lap warning was just before the pit entrance. I'm running WOT the whole race, with maybe a couple of short shifts in the curvy sections, but by short, I mean just before the bar maxes out on the shift indicator, maybe 7/8ths full. I've also had to re-accelerate after being knocked off or screwing up 2 or 3 times per race. That can't be good for fuel mileage.

 

[JayRS200]

Was about 2 good races away from getting A+ then a maniac Spaniard in one of the FF cars came from about 10th place and rammed me at turn 1 (Fuji). That put me in last.

He didn't get a penalty. I got a penalty. Then got several more penalties fighting my way back up to an eventual 7th. Lost 500+DR and went to a very low A SR.

This was about 11pm and I wanted to get A+ before going to bed. Got disconnected 2 races in a row. So decided to reset my router and watch some Melissa Mendiny before trying again.

Even though I was 4900 DR, it was matching me with mostly D DR rated drivers. I was a bit confused by this. So I did another couple of races which only put my DR up by 200 at most, but got my SR up again. Couldn't keep my eyes open so called it a night.

Got my A+ earlier today with a 2nd place and a hard battle.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

I can't comprehend how matchmaking works. The other day I went into a race (DR/A, SR/S) and not a single one of my opponents was above DR/C. My qualifying time was over 4 seconds clear of 2nd place, so it's unlikely that it depends on that.

By the way, your Sarthe time would put you near the top of the grid in an A lobby

Yeah I seem, to be the other end of the scale being matched with DR B/A when I'm not at that DR level. I never get it either.

Still I just had a 3rd place on Race A so got some DR back again, let's see how Race B goes!

Your qually times look great to me! Wish I could get close. You're probably well out of D class.... good job!

Thanks! I have literally spent the whole day on those times, La Sarthe took a whole 2 1/2 hours to get a lap without
penalties.

 

[JayRS200]

darth_tails how did you lose all your DR?

 

[Pigems]

That has been my experience, too. Manual tranny, I never go down to 1st unless I've stopped. I think the earliest I got the 1.3 lap warning was just before the pit entrance. I'm running WOT the whole race, with maybe a couple of short shifts in the curvy sections, but by short, I mean just before the bar maxes out on the shift indicator, maybe 7/8ths full. I've also had to re-accelerate after being knocked off or screwing up 2 or 3 times per race. That can't be good for fuel mileage.

Same here for the most part, I use TCS 2 though just in case lol. I do go down to 1st for a second during braking into Arnage, but the I’m back into 2nd for the Apex and roll on coming out. I do my short shifting on the straights when I have a slipstream to work with but I don’t even know how necessary it is, some races I’ve done it more than others and still haven’t had an issue with fuel.

This was my best run from yesterday, starting and finishing 2nd with a time of 17:29 in the TS050. It was a good clean race, nothing too eventful really happened until the start of lap 4(10:39 in the video) when I started to catch the leader, he must have been doing some fuel saving on that lap because on lap 5 he hammered down and put a 3+ second gap between us. It was a fun run and I’m getting more and more used to these fast cars as the week goes on, hopefully I can pull off a Dub before the races change over.

 

[ste.sully]

The penalty system is a joke anyway but somehow 10x worse on Le Mans. Just makes it up as it goes along from what I can see.

You (just) cut the chicane or corner and it'll give you a 3 second penalty. Next lap you do exactly the same and it'll do nothing. Daft...

 

[bone_tone]

The TS050 can't go the entire race on FM1. I ran out of fuel near the end of the last lap so you'll have to go down to FM2 once you're off Mulsanne straight.

No, definitely goes the whole way on FM1 - I've been doing it all week.....

 

[O604]

Tried 2 at Race B at low SRS/A. Back to hibernation. Might as well play demolition derby.

1st race dive bombed at T1 on laps 2,3 &4. One car ghosted through 3 cars then proceeds to block all the cars swerving, daring others to contact. That car got a podium.

2nd race rammed 4-5 times by the same car into the wall in the final turn. That car got a podium.

 

[Dairyworker]

Did A races last night cuse my real world buddy was in there. We seem to get matched together most of the time if we are doing the same race. Anyway, i did surprisingly well ish. Was starting 4 or 5 mostly and finished in the same place or up or down only one. I was certainly a little inebriated but it was a decent 4 or 5 races.

This morning i was feeling off, and it was showing as i was having a hard time getting my laps under 57 during a 30 lap warm up that lasted an hour and a half (damn dog...) just did my first race, and it was pretty good. I started 2 and had a good time following the pole sitter around for 7 laps lol he never made a mistake. We put a few seconds on third by the end though.

Second race about in 3 minutes...

 

[Rexracer702]

Same here for the most part, I use TCS 2 though just in case lol. I do go down to 1st for a second during braking into Arnage, but the I’m back into 2nd for the Apex and roll on coming out. I do my short shifting on the straights when I have a slipstream to work with but I don’t even know how necessary it is, some races I’ve done it more than others and still haven’t had an issue with fuel.

This was my best run from yesterday, starting and finishing 2nd with a time of 17:29 in the TS050. It was a good clean race, nothing too eventful really happened until the start of lap 4(10:39 in the video) when I started to catch the leader, he must have been doing some fuel saving on that lap because on lap 5 he hammered down and put a 3+ second gap between us. It was a fun run and I’m getting more and more used to these fast cars as the week goes on, hopefully I can pull off a Dub before the races change over.

Just watched your replay...slow day at work. You're pretty much driving it like I do, though a bit faster. You do run a higher gear through the Porsche curves, I downshift under throttle for the right hander up the hill, leading toward Corvette. Probably uses more gas than your way, but still, no problem. I don't even look at the fuel display since it always makes it easily. I watched what you do into Indy, you definitely make time on me there. The only place that I saw where I may be making time on you is into the second chicane on the main straight. I started shifting down to third rolling in, and don't hit second until the turn in to the right. It seemed to speed up my entry and help keep people off my bumper there. I'll be trying to improve my time tonight, and trying the 908. I'll have to re-set my G29 to switch displays with the wheel, and change settings with the up/down button if I can. Changing settings with the wheel is a PIA since it only works when going straight.