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[rosuazld]

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

but for some reason it brings out the worst in people.

Save for the N classes on Tokyo (those were generally clean, from my experience), this is every Tokyo race ever. The enclosed space of the track somehow seems to make drivers believe they have the authority to block or ram you into the wall if you attempt to make a pass.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Not a bad return after a solid week+ away. Though Interlagos group 3 feels like groundhog day.

One race was particularly good as i used old fashioned race craft and racing smarts to win. Qualified 3rd, two McLarens up front (silver and black). Lap 1 and I can see both squabbling and I had an 8 second gap over 4th so decided to wait for the fall out before making any moves, though TBh i wasn't quite close enough.

Silver looks fast and impatient to pass black, does so on the back straight, pretty clean but a slight nudge and black goes off track, 2 sec penalty to silver. AHA. On the main straight silver slows to serve some of his penalty but sits right on the racing line, they trip over themselves into T1 and silver spins, black leads with a 2sec penalty with me 2nd a second behind.

This is only lap two, and literally said to myself out loud (to my wife's amusement), "if I pressure this guy he'll bin it". To my surprise he stayed solid, our pace near identical but i would close to within a car length through the tight portions of the track and he would pull away on the two big straights.

I needed to stay within a second as he had the penalty to serve and was doing that as the gap drifted from 0.8 sec to 1.3sec. Then on the last lap, he binned it in the last last of the two twisties in the middle of the track.

WIN.

 

[gtpierre]

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

Nope imo.
You took the right turn like he was not there. It's not his job to move outside to let you pass, it's your job to pass him clean with the space he gives you.

You had a clean pass opportunity in the previous left tight turn, you were on the inside, you just had to exit wide and cut his exit (it's a bit ugly but a mx style block pass is better than a bump pass).

(Edit) : not a big deal in the end, you did not send him in the gravel, you were faster than him, and he didn't lose any other position because of the contact. And as others have said, he was driving erratically.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

Technically not clean but TBH he was all over the freaking road for two laps, you were right to take it IMHO, he's a menace.

 

[racer_xis]

Interlagos America´s top10 was full of audi r8... how is it in the other regions?

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

Judging by your distance to the apex, you were maitaining your line and he hit you, but for me is difficult to judge it properly without his view and other cameras.

 

[J Rutherford]

I wish I could do a 1.32x.
I can't figure how to get under 1.338 on interlagos, I have watched the replay, tried the Audi, the maclaren, but there is nothing I can do, I constantly mess up the first turn exit(2nd turn) as I oversteer and lose time when when I pass on the curb. In 1h30, I passed 3 times the first couple of turns correctly and I messed up somewhere else.

The gr3 professional AI is faster than me in the custom races, I am ashamed and I don't dare to face DR B drivers

Maybe I need to try with the cones...

I'd definitely put the cones out until you get used to as you need to make sure you clip every apex to be quick at Interlagos and that double apex right hander up the hill is where much of the time will be lost mid lap. I need them just to keep me right. The first two corners especially, if you don't hook those up properly the lap is done. I've tried a few cars but the McLaren just feels better balanced than the rest of them. A couple of months ago I was next to useless in Gr.3 and, most cars in general, then it all started to just click together. I've only really been using a wheel for a few months now. Half throttle through the slow tight stuff and try not to mash the throttle when getting on the power. Also I found moving the brake balance to the front (-2) helped me on this particular car/track combo.

 

[atakyrk]

I think I used +4 for a while when testing qualifying speeds at Suzuka. You might start with +2.

Thank You - I'll do some testing

 

[J Rutherford]

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

Perfectly fine, the other driver just can't hold a line properly. Back end stepped out on them and they over-corrected. Classic rookie lol.

 

[GT5Power]

Interlagos America´s top10 was full of audi r8... how is it in the other regions?

EMEA is all Audi R8s too except #7 or #8 which is a WRX The best time is a 1:30.6. I myself put in a 1:31.816 in the R8, which I am quite content with even though I know it's not getting me any good grid starts. Well, at least in the SR 90+ lobby it's not. It's still a sizable improvement over my 32.2 that I had set in the VW GTI VGT last time this combo was around, so I'll take it That Audi is really a difficult car to figure out. It's easy to drive once you understand that it likes to slide, but reaching its limits is way harder than one may think.

 

[Trone_Colby]

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

Meh. On one hand you could have braked a bit to make sure you didn’t hit him.

The other hand he did oversteer a bit and didn’t correct it in time. Its a toss up to me.

 

[doblocruiser]

To all the daily races participants: I've seen people running time trials in the dailies. How is that actually possible? I thought they were only races?

 

[racer_xis]

EMEA is all Audi R8s too except #7 or #8 which is a WRX The best time is a 1:30.6. I myself put in a 1:31.816 in the R8, which I am quite content with even though I know it's not getting me any good grid starts. Well, at least in the SR 90+ lobby it's not. It's still a sizable improvement over my 32.2 that I had set in the VW GTI VGT last time this combo was around, so I'll take it That Audi is really a difficult car to figure out. It's easy to drive once you understand that it likes to slide, but reaching its limits is way harder than one may think.

My time with the porsche is also 1:32.2xx... I guess Ill try the audi, even knowing that its pretty hard to handle on ds4.

 

[RZQSPEED]

To all the daily races participants: I've seen people running time trials in the dailies. How is that actually possible? I thought they were only races?

There's the Qualifying Time Trial option next to the Race Entry option. Go on there and start qualifying until you get a satisfying lap!

 

[doblocruiser]

There's the Qualifying Time Trial option next to the Race Entry option. Go on there and start qualifying until you get a satisfying lap!

Thank you very much for this! I finally understand now....I think I can run them without PS+, is that correct?

 

[Dairyworker]

Did a few races last night and was geting pushed around in the mx5 so worked on my time and shaved it down a bit more to a 1.12.2xx i might be able to hit an 11 with a miracle lap lol

This morning i did a few races already and much cleaner. Hard competition and some bumps here and there, but just results of hard racing with no real consequences (whats a few sr points between friends eh?) There was one guy this morning who has the honor of being the first guy to make it onto my list since i decided to make one. Ramming whoever was close to him off at every turn...

 

[RZQSPEED]

Thank you very much for this! I finally understand now....I think I can run them without PS+, is that correct?

Yes, you can run the Qualifying Time Trials AND FIA Free Practice sessions (from the actual FIA event details menu that is) without PS+

 

[sturk0167]

Did a few races last night and was geting pushed around in the mx5 so worked on my time and shaved it down a bit more to a 1.12.2xx i might be able to hit an 11 with a miracle lap lol

This morning i did a few races already and much cleaner. Hard competition and some bumps here and there, but just results of hard racing with no real consequences (whats a few sr points between friends eh?) There was one guy this morning who has the honor of being the first guy to make it onto my list since i decided to make one. Ramming whoever was close to him off at every turn...

I just watched the replay of the guy who beat Lester on the leaderboard for race A. Same damn thing! He definitely doesn't make it through any of those turns better than we do. The super-fast shifting is the difference.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Good overtake?
I am very new to 'racing' and would really like some feedback.
Starting from I was closing the gap to P3 and went for it on lap 5.
There was contact but I felt that there was plenty of room to the outside.

Nope, that was a dirty overtake. If you were side to side heading into the turn, I would actually be fine with you agressively pushing him all the way to the edge of the track. P3 lost their back end and was losing control and you continued to lay down the throttle heading towards him. I don't know what you expected to happen other than hitting him.

You had no overlap heading into the corner so all corner rights go to P3 which includes their choice of an exit line. Even if he didn't step out during the turn he would be allowed to place his car in the left third of the track to encumber your exit line. It's a known defensive driving tactic that isn't considered an illegal block.

UPDATE - (J Rutherford was right. I concede to his point. Apologies to the OP. I thought the 3P driver had stayed in the same area of the track, but Rutherford's right he, does make an irregular move back to the inside to block after correcting his car.)

 

[J Rutherford]

I'd say the guy in front of him screwed up the corner himself and he was perfectly entitled to hold his line and pass. The other guy swerved back across and hit him.

 

[Invisigoth]

Aiyayaya!! It's time for Madi Gras! Another great rally through the rain forests of Brazil.Another day, another crack at Autódromo José Carlos Pace. It's another Beemer bash, this time with the M3s big bro. I tried the rexy first, but since the updates it's lost it's character. Drives more like FF than FR. The M6 had enough tail happy fun time to let me put the boot in and not make a bee line for the outside off track . I beat my M3 time by 0.5s. Still a very ordinary time but I lucked out and again got an all DR/D grid. I was expecting big gains in speed by everyone since yesterday, so I was kinda shocked to start P3/15 .

After last nights fiasco, we actually had a normal start. Yay! . We get to T1 and I'm expecting some 🤬 to dive bomb me... didn't happen. I made it through T1 and was right up the tail pipe of the two cars in front of me... till Juncao. It's a critical corner and getting it right can have you pull a substantial gap. Get it wrong and you drop behind. Guess which one I was . I just can't seem to take that corner in 2nd without ending up going massively wide on the exit and off the track. 1st it is which gets me safely around, but drops behind. I seemed to be getting Senna right, which has me closing the gap... till we get to Juncao again . I had a few seconds up on P4, and was content to hang on to P3 if I could. Oh the tension !

Lap 4 and I had closed the gap to about 1.5s. P2 gets a bit out of shape at Descida do Lago and picks up a penalty. I go flying by and by the end of the race :

I finished 7s ahead of P3 who also had a 6s penalty in addition. The whole race I was muttering "please stay on the track... please stay on the track..." .

SR blue, DR went up 900. Means I'll probably loose 1000 tomorrow . Another day above DR 1 .

 

[Leftcurl]

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I can see it now -

PD:
Compulsory log off from GT Sport on line services.

To_Blitz (or Blitztoo):
"You have received your third penalty for this race: you are Black Flagged."

To_Blitz:
"This is your third black flag in this week's on-line races. You can now only play in DriveClub for the period of one week, from now. You are no longer permitted to race on-line in GT Sport for one week. Good luck and enjoy DriveClub.

Please note that your other accounts such as Blitztoo which uses the same IP address as To_Blitz will not be able to access GT Sport on line for one week, but can enjoy DriveClub.

If you view the following videos on driver etiquette and rules and pass the quiz, your week penalty will be reduced by two days. You have the right to protest - please address your complaints to the Chief Steward, Charles Whiting."

GT Sport - the Real Driving Simulator

[/QUOTE]

in comparison... i once got a 7 day complete online ban for uploading an 'Inglorious Basterds' Tarantino livery - and yet if i wanted to I could quite happily race all day long and smash as many people as i wanted all over the track with absolutely no consequences

 

[Adam Barber]

Gone from strength rank s to B in one race because of a dirty driver or 96 to 59 in one race
🤬

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I'd say the guy in front of him screwed up the corner himself and he was perfectly entitled to hold his line and pass. The other guy swerved back across and hit him.

Yeah, you're right. I concede to your point. Apologies to the OP. I thought the 3P driver had stayed in the same area of the track, but you're right he does make an irregular move back to the inside to block after correcting his car.

 

[Rexracer702]

I wish I could do a 1.32x.
I can't figure how to get under 1.338 on interlagos, I have watched the replay, tried the Audi, the maclaren, but there is nothing I can do, I constantly mess up the first turn exit(2nd turn) as I oversteer and lose time when when I pass on the curb. In 1h30, I passed 3 times the first couple of turns correctly and I messed up somewhere else.

The gr3 professional AI is faster than me in the custom races, I am ashamed and I don't dare to face DR B drivers

Maybe I need to try with the cones...

I don't like cones in a race, since they can be moved, and can create obsticals, but I have been using the blue apex markers. They only mark turn in and apex, but they're up high and don't move. Since I use bumper cam, they can help in a race when I'm close to someone and cant see the corner.

1:33.8 is NOT slow in GR3. I would bet that, below SR-S, you might get top 5 starts with that sometimes. I haven't been able to break into the 32's yet, so I'm going to change it up. The F1 had been my fastest car there so far, but a friend did a 32.8 in the Vette, so I'll try some other cars. The Mazda turns in nice, and has a top 10 time in my region. The Aston works well, and there are others. Sometimes driving another car, with different handling, can change the way you drive, then when you go back to what you were driving before, you go faster. I don't like cars that understeer. The F1 feels like it has more understeer than I like, but it is stable. Maybe if I drive something that has MORE understeer for a while, I'll get back in the F1 and drive it better. Or maybe I'll find another car that is faster for me...

 

[Dorofint]

[..] but it seems its not racing at the moment its gaming the holes in the system. [..]

You have formulated this excellently. That is exactly how I feel. I'm not concentrating on driving anymore. Good and clean driving and improving is no longer the focus. I almost always look in the rearview mirror with one eye to make way for the next dive bomber. I keep ahead more distance than necessary because I constantly expect a brake test. I do not even use good chances to overtake because the driver in front of me steers anyway in my line, as soon as I try. This has nothing to do with clean racing anymore. All this robs me of the fun.

 

[O604]

Can't get any of my qualifying times down. But I am satisfied with my consistency. So I had a go at Race A again.

Same QT of 1:12.979 got me P9. Got lucky and avoided a few crashes. Finished 4th. + around 500 DR. Pretty good result for me.

Race B QT remains around 1:34.5. I know it's slow but I can do about 10 laps consistently and the arcade mode races are becoming easy so I may try a race later today.

 

[J Rutherford]

I don't like cones in a race, since they can be moved, and can create obsticals, but I have been using the blue apex markers. They only mark turn in and apex, but they're up high and don't move. Since I use bumper cam, they can help in a race when I'm close to someone and cant see the corner.

Yeah, they're made of the strongest, lightest materials known to man. I use cockpit view, and for new tracks I'm not familiar with it helps me learn them much quicker. I've never actually ever used the apex markers so they might actually be better suited to me. In a race they can be a nightmare, I nearly damn rolled the Gr.4 WRX over at the first turn at Suzuka last week after running one over.

 

[Snake55wildcat]

Man.. I was on such a high earlier today with that victory, now I keep ending up in sessions with some punt heavy people across all 3 races, and I've now lost my S SR rank through no fault of my own on the Gr4 event

 

[gtpierre]

Ok there is something I don't understand.
yesterday I did only one race (race A). grid was mix of DR A and B, I'm in the low B. I was qualified 10th, number 12 on my car. I finished 9th, the 12th disconnected just before the race, the 11th before the end of the race.
I just looked at my DR curve and I see I lost DR. Does it mean that when someone disconnects they don't lose DR ? Or does it mean they lose it but don't give it ?

Since I had the number 12, I should have gained DR by finishing 9th, right ? Or do I not gain DR from people that quit because they are bad ? It would be unfair