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Anyone had a many races in the new Race C with the Super Formula cars? Hows the opening laps? Full of death or fairly ok? Been out of the dailies ever since they went to not daily but this one looks pretty good.
 
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Yes, I set a 1'36.926 in qualifying but I'm no where near comfortable with this car, making way too many mistakes at the moment, not helped by other laggy cars mind, I swear this ruins my grip and once you go off you lose way more grip. Also having never done a grid start (with false starts possible) I of course did that to ruin one race too. Then there's the overtake button, still trying to figure out how to best use that. Lots to learn here. :dopey:
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If you've done a 1:36.9 I'd say you must be fairly comfortable with the car! I can see you're currently 12th for EMEA :lol:

For the grid start I put TC to 1 and that seemed to do the trick. Just flicked it back to 0 once I was in third gear.

I'm still working out the overtake button too. You seem to get quite a bit to use to it's just working out when and where to use it that helps the most. My assumption is accelerating from the slower corners, so after the hairpin and after spoon towards 130R primarily.

Have you worked out a pit strategy? I'm assuming a no stop isn't possible because of the amount of grip you'd lose, but when I pitted I had 51% fuel so didn't take any more. I didn't touch the fuel map, just short shifted occasionally. I am 3 seconds a lap slower than you though :)
 
I’ve got the SF down to a 1:39.4, it’s a weird car to drive, overpowered at low speeds and underpowered at high speeds. You can get away with murder once you’re going fast enough for the downforce to work, but she’s tricky as hell in the slow speed corners. It’s gonna take some getting used to.

 
Race A and C don't really grab me, so Race B it is. I've done a few races before on the reverse, but whilst I'm familiar with where the corners are, kinda sketchy on the lines so I was kinda feeling my way around. I don't have bulk time to spend qualifying, so I put in what i knew was a crappy time and went with it. I was expecting to be starting in the last 3 positions, so starting P9/14 on a mixed grid of DR/A-D and SR/S-B was a bit of a surprise :eek:.

Race starts and I'm dumped just before the exit of the final corner onto the start/finish strait by auto drive. I was a bit surprised to start gaining a bit on the car in front. Oh yeh, I went in with the BMW.........M3 :p. I had a few people who were a bit keen. I just kinda let them through because I figured they were more comfortable with the track... they weren't :lol:. That penalty zone *is* a passing zone :D. I made up 4 places from passing people carrying penalties. In the end I finished P9...where I started, with a blue SR.

SR went up 3, despite an orange SR for getting a bit too door to door with another car on a corner. DR went up 80, so happy with that. Another day above DR 1 :dopey:.
 
Race A looks interesting, race be ruined by going reverse and race C just looks like it'll be a mess and i am atrocious at Suzuka. Of all the tracks i think suzuka is the one that most penalises a controller over a wheel.
 
watto79
If you've done a 1:36.9 I'd say you must be fairly comfortable with the car! I can see you're currently 12th for EMEA :lol:

For the grid start I put TC to 1 and that seemed to do the trick. Just flicked it back to 0 once I was in third gear.

I'm still working out the overtake button too. You seem to get quite a bit to use to it's just working out when and where to use it that helps the most. My assumption is accelerating from the slower corners, so after the hairpin and after spoon towards 130R primarily.

Have you worked out a pit strategy? I'm assuming a no stop isn't possible because of the amount of grip you'd lose, but when I pitted I had 51% fuel so didn't take any more. I didn't touch the fuel map, just short shifted occasionally. I am 3 seconds a lap slower than you though :)
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I wouldn't no stop, bound to crash with the tyre wear, I mean I do anyway and I've got nowhere near lap 10 level wear and there's 12 laps. At most go to lap 7 and then pit but usually 6 as I've had enough of the tyres by then.

This massive wear multiplier stuff is real tricky too and makes it so hard to work on race pace which I'm down on compared to my Q time I think.
Also I do use TC 1 at the start (now I'm not jump starting) and mainly use the overtake out of the slow corners as soon as I feel I can anyway.

The P2P needs disabling on lap 1 though I think, so much carnage at the start and this boost just adds to it. :crazy:
 
I'm really enjoying the Dallara, it's nice to drive and looks good. The overtake mode is a nice feature too at the moment I'm using it as like a qualy mode to try to steal fastest lap and whatever remains is good for getting out of trouble if you're overtaking in a sketchy spot.

I don't usually upload full races but:
a) I don't think I've ever had a clean race bonus from 20th on the grid before
b) I learnt how to increase the recording length last week and I'm showing off
c) I'm using this Lucas Auer livery from Hiroki2355 and it is ridiculously sexy

*Disclaimer* A lot of the race is boring if you're not driving in it *Disclaimer*
 
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I saw the triple arrows on my dash for the KERS(?) gauge, like a chevron, and saw the same chevron on the back straight, so I assumed. I haven't raced FIA, so am not familiar. Am I correct in assuming that the boost doesn't work in timed practice?
 
Daily Race C is quite good. Slinging the SF19 around Suzuka is great fun.

My Quali time right now is a1:38.0, but I reckon there’s a two or three more tenths in the car for me with a perfect lap.

I’ve done one race so far (FL 1:39.3) where I qualified 5th and finished 2nd thanks to others making mistakes, but also quite a nice race pace. I was leading after lap 6 when the stops began and I was flirting with the no-stopper until I had a small off out of Degner 2 on lap 7, which relieved me of that particular notion. I came out in second place (and would have lost the lead even without my small off-track adventure) but had around a second on the guy in 3rd.

I was preparing for a nice, relaxed run to the finish, as I had all of my Overtake boost left and felt confident that I could counter any attack on fresher tyres… but there was a bit more drama to come, as the Spoon exit kerb sucked me off on lap 9, as Super GT would say. I dropped down to third, but employed my Overtake button for a lunge towards the outside of the final chicane. Predictably, that didn’t work, and I lost about six or seven tenths, so I don’t think my adversary was expecting another attack into the first corner, but I used my Overtake mode again and caught him napping, or at least that’s what I like to think.

After that, he must’ve made a mistake because suddenly there was a 2s gap, which I maintained until the end. Good fun, all in all.

I definitely think a no-stopper is possible if you are either in first or have the benefit of running in a gap somewhere where you can preserve your tyres and save a bit of fuel.

Unfortunately, I’ll be away from my rig for the rest of the weekend, so I’ll do another one or two races tonight and that’ll be it.

Extra mention for the many gorgeous liveries I saw. This update really brought out some of the best designs I’ve seen on the game to date.
 
I got a question.

Will it hurt my DR or SR if I leave pre race?

I’m finding out and I know its been discussed that if you are not at least top 5 or finish top 5 (in my experience) you lose DR.

I raced DTS2 two more times (I’m B/S 99). The first race I was placed at P10 with guys or gals that where at least a second faster than me (standing at 1:48.4). I finished the race gaining P9. I had no chance of catching everyone esle unless they die the chicane. I lost 300 that race.

Second race was worse because I started P9 I got to P7 but got knocked off track by someone who didn’t brake in time and I fell to last place.

In both races I lost 406 DR points. I started to get fussy and left.

I run into the same crowd, especially those races I mentioned. Usually I try to avoid that and I want to in the future by leaving pre race.

I gained 11k during my vacation and I don’t wanna lose it because of where I’m placed.
 
Trone_Colby
I got a question.

Will it hurt my DR or SR if I leave pre race?

I’m finding out and I know its been discussed that if you are not at least top 5 or finish top 5 (in my experience) you lose DR.

I raced DTS2 two more times (I’m B/S 99). The first race I was placed at P10 with guys or gals that where at least a second faster than me (standing at 1:48.4). I finished the race gaining P9. I had no chance of catching everyone esle unless they die the chicane. I lost 300 that race.

Second race was worse because I started P9 I got to P7 but got knocked off track by someone who didn’t brake in time and I fell to last place.

In both races I lost 406 DR points. I started to get fussy and left.

I run into the same crowd, especially those races I mentioned. Usually I try to avoid that and I want to in the future by leaving pre race.

I gained 11k during my vacation and I don’t wanna lose it because of where I’m placed.
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I believe once you see the lobby, it’s too late to leave, otherwise everyone would leave every race if they didn’t get a favourable lobby.
 
Did a couple of Race B's this morning. First race was super clean, everyone with Blue SR rating at the end and no penalties.

2nd race not so much. I did notice on the last lap though, that 2 cars ahead of me had penalties and on entering the penalty zone, they didn't slow down or ghost.

They had to take their penalties to the finish line, yet both idiots, on the racing line then tried to slow down to deplete the penalty. They didn't ghost and the penalty didn't deplete, but what did happen was they caused a few crashes with others, including me rear ending them and losing places. The car I hit got an extra penalty at the end, and I go a clean race star.

So, if you have a penalty on the last lap, does the system make you take it to the finish line and add it to the final race time?
 
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Did a couple of Race B's this morning. First race was super clean, everyone with Blue SR rating at the end and no penalties.

2nd race not so much. I did notice on the last lap though, that 2 cars ahead of me had penalties and on entering the penalty zone, they didn't slow down or ghost.

They had to take their penalties to the finish line, yet both idiots, on the racing line then tried to slow down to deplete the penalty. They didn't ghost and the penalty didn't deplete, but what did happen was they caused a few crashes with others, including me rear ending them and losing places. The car I hit got an extra penalty at the end, and I go a clean race star.

So, if you have a penalty on the last lap, does the system make you take it to the finish line and add it to the final race time?
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In the FIA races it depends how close to the penalty zone you get the penalty that dictates if you serve the penalty on that lap or the next lap. Exactly how close you are to the penalty zone you need to be for this in unclear. But essentially, receive a penalty shortly before the penalty zone then you'll drive straight through the zone on that lap, then serve the penalty next time around. If it's the last lap then your penalty gets added to your time.

I imagine there will be a period of adjustment while people get used to this. I'm sure what you saw was two people trying to get rid of their penalties the old way, not knowing what the new system is. I'm sure there will be a fair amount of this going on over the next few days so one to watch out for.
 
Trone_Colby
I got a question.

Will it hurt my DR or SR if I leave pre race?

I’m finding out and I know its been discussed that if you are not at least top 5 or finish top 5 (in my experience) you lose DR.

I raced DTS2 two more times (I’m B/S 99). The first race I was placed at P10 with guys or gals that where at least a second faster than me (standing at 1:48.4). I finished the race gaining P9. I had no chance of catching everyone esle unless they die the chicane. I lost 300 that race.

Second race was worse because I started P9 I got to P7 but got knocked off track by someone who didn’t brake in time and I fell to last place.

In both races I lost 406 DR points. I started to get fussy and left.

I run into the same crowd, especially those races I mentioned. Usually I try to avoid that and I want to in the future by leaving pre race.

I gained 11k during my vacation and I don’t wanna lose it because of where I’m placed.
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I've been losing about 5 SR points when I've quit in a race. I'm now down to A and hope to be down to at least C by the end of the week! I would rather do it this way than ruin somebody else's race.
DR, no idea, you can't go lower than 1, which is my current tally. :cheers:
 
Trone_Colby
I got a question.

Will it hurt my DR or SR if I leave pre race?

I’m finding out and I know its been discussed that if you are not at least top 5 or finish top 5 (in my experience) you lose DR.

I raced DTS2 two more times (I’m B/S 99). The first race I was placed at P10 with guys or gals that where at least a second faster than me (standing at 1:48.4). I finished the race gaining P9. I had no chance of catching everyone esle unless they die the chicane. I lost 300 that race.

Second race was worse because I started P9 I got to P7 but got knocked off track by someone who didn’t brake in time and I fell to last place.

In both races I lost 406 DR points. I started to get fussy and left.

I run into the same crowd, especially those races I mentioned. Usually I try to avoid that and I want to in the future by leaving pre race.

I gained 11k during my vacation and I don’t wanna lose it because of where I’m placed.
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There ais no valid reason to leave a race. 1s faster is not much and following someone faster will teach you more than quitting and waiting for an easier race.
Racing for DR gain is stupid, as your DR rank exist only to place you with people of similar abilities. If everyone is faster than you, why should you get into the faster category ?
If you just have a problem with this track, then train.
On a side note, i think having one or two more DR rank would be a bit better for matchmaking
 
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watto79
In the FIA races it depends how close to the penalty zone you get the penalty that dictates if you serve the penalty on that lap or the next lap. Exactly how close you are to the penalty zone you need to be for this in unclear. But essentially, receive a penalty shortly before the penalty zone then you'll drive straight through the zone on that lap, then serve the penalty next time around. If it's the last lap then your penalty gets added to your time.

I imagine there will be a period of adjustment while people get used to this. I'm sure what you saw was two people trying to get rid of their penalties the old way, not knowing what the new system is. I'm sure there will be a fair amount of this going on over the next few days so one to watch out for.
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In the run-up to the penalty line, cars that have a penalty get a sort of yellow loading bar. You can see this underneath their penalty. If it's you, I believe it says something like "you'll be slowed down at the next penalty line" or something.

If the game hands you a penalty in this area, it doesn't immediately serve it, since there may not be enough time for you and others around you to anticipate your slowing down, but rather waits until the next lap.

If you already had a penalty though, say 1 sec, and you receive another during this run-up, say .5, the game does make you serve the full 1.5 sec at once, but that's an edge case.
 
I only had enough time to check out one race so I went with Race B.

Currently on the top 10 with my 1:57.8 but I don't imagine it will last the day. I think I can get to a 1:57.6. I set the Huracan to -1 BB and it works REALLY well.

1 win in the bag and I think it's going to be a good week.

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watto79
In the FIA races it depends how close to the penalty zone you get the penalty that dictates if you serve the penalty on that lap or the next lap. Exactly how close you are to the penalty zone you need to be for this in unclear. But essentially, receive a penalty shortly before the penalty zone then you'll drive straight through the zone on that lap, then serve the penalty next time around. If it's the last lap then your penalty gets added to your time.

I imagine there will be a period of adjustment while people get used to this. I'm sure what you saw was two people trying to get rid of their penalties the old way, not knowing what the new system is. I'm sure there will be a fair amount of this going on over the next few days so one to watch out for.
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Appreciate the explanation. They were carrying the penalties for quite a few corners before the penalty zone, and I was ready to breeze past them in the zone so was surprised when I didn't catch them.
 
Trone_Colby
I got a question.

Will it hurt my DR or SR if I leave pre race?

I’m finding out and I know its been discussed that if you are not at least top 5 or finish top 5 (in my experience) you lose DR.

I raced DTS2 two more times (I’m B/S 99). The first race I was placed at P10 with guys or gals that where at least a second faster than me (standing at 1:48.4). I finished the race gaining P9. I had no chance of catching everyone esle unless they die the chicane. I lost 300 that race.

Second race was worse because I started P9 I got to P7 but got knocked off track by someone who didn’t brake in time and I fell to last place.

In both races I lost 406 DR points. I started to get fussy and left.

I run into the same crowd, especially those races I mentioned. Usually I try to avoid that and I want to in the future by leaving pre race.

I gained 11k during my vacation and I don’t wanna lose it because of where I’m placed.
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I wouldn't worry too much about qualifying times, and the longer and more technical the track, the less I would worry. I ran a bunch of races at the Nord 24 from the back, and had a bunch of top 6 finishes and some podiums, and even a win. When I finally qualified I did a 8:24.xxx, yet I podiumed in a room where the top 10 were all below that time. Even on a short race I think you'll find that race pace is usually 1 second or more below the Q time. Often the fastest lap is only equal to the#10 qualifying time, or worse.

I look at DR like I used to look at finish position when I was racing. You end up where you belong. I've been around 20,000 DR points for a long time. If I had more time to run laps, and race, I'm sure I could make DR-A, but with the time I have right now, I'm a B at about 20k. I've just touched 25K, and have been down to about 10k, but usually I stay at 20K+/- 2K. SR has much more to do with who you race. Don't drive yourself crazy worrying about DR. Drive, Race, Have fun!

Edit: I just re-read your post. You gained 11K DR during vacation and you don't want to loose it. That would only be reasonable if you can spend the same amount of time playing that you did on vacation. Last week I didn't have a lot of time to play, so I spent all of my play time on race C. I did about 10 laps in A, just to put up a time, and ran about 15 laps on B last night, again just to put up a time. I only raced on C from the back with no Q, then last night I spent about 45 minutes to get my qualifying time down to 8:24, raced 2 races, and I was done for the week. Trying to maintain any level of DR takes seat time, and if you don't have that time, DR will suffer. Even the aliens wouldn't be able to maintain their DR numbers if they weren't putting in an insane amount of time in the game.
 
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