"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[ASH32]

Zocker1990 is live streaming the daily races right now. Nice to see that even a 75k driver sometimes doesn't correctly judge how much earlier they need to brake when behind another car, and unintentionally dive bombs someone.

It's a fine line, brake too early and you are too far back to then have a shot at the overtake later in the lap or worse still you are then the one dive bombed and hit. Too late and you look like an arse, certainly happened to me on more than one occasion and on that subject the game doesn't punish you often enough for being a crap driver either, I get away with more things that are probably (or definitely are) my fault than I should but then get clobbered with penalties when I feel I'm not to blame.

 

[Rexracer702]

Yeah. that definitely sucks that Quebec get the shaft there. Just make a second account for back starts, that way you can switch back and forth throughout the week. It’s nice to have options, plus if they ever change things you won’t have to build up your good account again.




Ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuussssshhhh!!!! They might actually hear you!!!

That's funny, what you said about your "good" account. I've been setting Q laps on Rexracer, but mostly racing from the back on RacerX. I don't know what my "good" account is anymore. I only raced C last week, because of time, and because I like driving the SF19. My best finishes of the week were both 2nds. One with Rexracer, from pole...a hard fought, but mostly clean battle. The winner had a mid 25 Q time, and did a 26.3 in the race, so way out of my league. I was happy to finish only 7 seconds down. I did get my Q into the 26's at least. The one with RacerX was from 17th I think, and also a mostly clean race. Both DR and SR on my 2nd account are higher than my main. Go figure. Sunday night I usually run a quick lap on all 3 tracks, just to put a time up since racing is over. I had 3 false starts in the SF19 when doing that last night, but my first complete lap beat my Q lap on my "main" account by about 1/100th. It was a 26.8. I may have more top 5's on the main account, but I bet most other stats are better on my second account.
Edit: Okay, I'm a bit confused. The P2 finish from the back was the one with the guy that had as mid 25. I was on pole so, no 25's in that race.

 

[Loverson]

I think i'll wait some days until i join a race.
Race A isn't exciting for me although i am enjoying trying the non AWD cars.
Race B has too many sections where the AWD fast car can take advantage so using a more technical car can be harmful.
Race C... Well it's not bad but sort of like La Sarthe: you do need a fast top speed car.
I know i can improve with 4C but if i just pick Mustang or GT-R, i might have a better chance.

 

[Melbourne Park]

HA!

I KNEW 57 was possible. I just couldn’t do it.

CONGRATS TO THE NUMBER ONE TIME IN THE WORLD FOR DAILY RACE A. Crazy skills.

YOU BROKE 58!! GREAT JOB!

I CALLED IT!

There were two actually - an Australian from early on in the week, and then EDIT: - not a Brazilian - a Hungarian . Then the Aussie beat the Hungarian - TX3_Adam18 - by 1/100th of a second - a comfortable margin. Aussie player was TRL_holl01 - with a 57.964.

I had three races today too - one was against TRL_holl01. I texted pre race "I am honoured" !!! I jumped away at the start, and got out 1o 1.5 seconds. I was watching for him to come, and after two average corners lap 3, I saw he was coming. I moved over to watch his line - but it was not him!! I GAVE the race away!!! The fast guy crashed out I guess ...

I learn't another lesson - its best not to star gaze at someone via your rear view mirror while racing ... I also lost the second race due to once again, lapping a car that did not grey out. I think its the Australian delay vis a vis Japan ... somewhat annoying throwing a race away while a few seconds in front due to lapping a car ... also the bonus SR stopped happening to me, no idea why ...

I was going to do some laps to lower my qualifying but ran out of time due to those races and doing other things. While you can watch someone in the qualifying replays, it's not at all the same IMO as actually closely following a fast driver. I've met a few this week and learn't the confidence a hand controller fast guy has on the edge of the track due to their ability to quickly turn the front tyres.

I'd love to know how the fast guys go about qualifying ie their whole process.

 

[Pigems]

That's funny, what you said about your "good" account. I've been setting Q laps on Rexracer, but mostly racing from the back on RacerX. I don't know what my "good" account is anymore. I only raced C last week, because of time, and because I like driving the SF19. My best finishes of the week were both 2nds. One with Rexracer, from pole...a hard fought, but mostly clean battle. The winner had a mid 25 Q time, and did a 26.3 in the race, so way out of my league. I was happy to finish only 7 seconds down. I did get my Q into the 26's at least. The one with RacerX was from 17th I think, and also a mostly clean race. Both DR and SR on my 2nd account are higher than my main. Go figure. Sunday night I usually run a quick lap on all 3 tracks, just to put a time up since racing is over. I had 3 false starts in the SF19 when doing that last night, but my first complete lap beat my Q lap on my "main" account by about 1/100th. It was a 26.8. I may have more top 5's on the main account, but I bet most other stats are better on my second account.

All I meant by “good account” was that it’s the one I plan to use for FIA races if I ever actually do them lol. It’s no good for that until I can get it to A+ anyways, but it’s sitting at just under 42k right now so it’s close enough to get there once a combo comes up that I really like.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

First race on Monza. Not bad. I had to avoid a couple dive bombing McLarens BMW, gave them a free pass today. Yet unfortunately a nose sticker in the last turn still managed to give me an SR Down. Then a GT-R was harrassing me. I avoided his dives 3 or 4 times, he drove himself off each time. But he finally succeeded on punting me off at Lesmo 2. He got a 3 sec penalty so I simply stuck behind him, not worth the risk overtaking. He took himself out anyway at Lesmo 2 again, doesn't know where to brake apparently.

10th place in the Supra. @MaxAttack Supra is not a contender for race C either. My best lap was only 1:51, the car is not a fan of the first chicane and is unstable in Ascari as well. It's all Mustangs, GT-Rs and MacLaren, boring line up already. On to the next attempt at clean race bonus. Starting 20th, jackpot!

 

[MaxAttack]

Nissan trio time!

R34, Best lap: 1.05.956 (4 tenths off the mazda).

Well, it's quick, but not easy to be quick. It is good through t1 allowing pretty late braking and aggressive line. Second hairpin is a bitch in this car. Understeer a-plenty. It also wants 1st gear around the last hairpin and timing the upshift is awkward and feels slow, much like the NSX.

Most of my laps were high 06s or low 07s, due to mistakes, which seemed easily made and heavily punished. All in all I would compare it to the EVO, though it's a touch faster.

R33, best lap: 1.05.914

Underwhelming again. It is lighter on its feet than the R34, but suffers most of the same problems. All the hairpins, and the final turn, very tricky as you will either slide on turn in, or understeer your way through. Pick your poison I guess.

Can't see myself using either of these. I'm sure they can be driven quickly but wrestling understeer all the way around is basically masochistic as far as I'm concerned.

Now let's see how the cheat code does...

R32, best lap: 1.05.003

Welp, there it is. Initially I thought hey, I might struggle here, understeering through the final corner, I remembered the car being easier to handle at Suzuka East.

But then I settled in, and the cheat code kicked in. The car is just sooooo easy to handle. I really only had to think about the hairpins. Gear indicator says 1st - ignore it, you can take them all in 2nd, and everything else flat out.

Half a second improvement on a lap where I was still feeling it out. 4 of the 10 laps in the 1.05s, every other car i got into that mark I only managed it once.

Can confirm, R32 is a cheat code. I did it for science!

I feel it could still be fun to bring the RX7 and MR2, as they aren't super disadvantaged and you might go quicker through the hairpins, but consider it locked in:

If you want good results, R32.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuussssshhhh!!!! They might actually hear you!!!

Unlikely going to happen but I'll be the first to laugh when people start to say why we haven't had those tracks in a while. Truthfully, I hope it stays this way. I'm so bored of Fuji that I'd rather stare at Mt. Fuji in the background than race on it.

 

[watto79]

Nissan trio time!

R34, Best lap: 1.05.956 (4 tenths off the mazda).

Well, it's quick, but not easy to be quick. It is good through t1 allowing pretty late braking and aggressive line. Second hairpin is a bitch in this car. Understeer a-plenty. It also wants 1st gear around the last hairpin and timing the upshift is awkward and feels slow, much like the NSX.

Most of my laps were high 06s or low 07s, due to mistakes, which seemed easily made and heavily punished. All in all I would compare it to the EVO, though it's a touch faster.

R33, best lap: 1.05.914

Underwhelming again. It is lighter on its feet than the R34, but suffers most of the same problems. All the hairpins, and the final turn, very tricky as you will either slide on turn in, or understeer your way through. Pick your poison I guess.

Can't see myself using either of these. I'm sure they can be driven quickly but wrestling understeer all the way around is basically masochistic as far as I'm concerned.

Now let's see how the cheat code does...

R32, best lap: 1.05.003

Welp, there it is. Initially I thought hey, I might struggle here, understeering through the final corner, I remembered the car being easier to handle at Suzuka East.

But then I settled in, and the cheat code kicked in. The car is just sooooo easy to handle. I really only had to think about the hairpins. Gear indicator says 1st - ignore it, you can take them all in 2nd, and everything else flat out.

Half a second improvement on a lap where I was still feeling it out. 4 of the 10 laps in the 1.05s, every other car i got into that mark I only managed it once.

Can confirm, R32 is a cheat code. I did it for science!

I feel it could still be fun to bring the RX7 and MR2, as they aren't super disadvantaged and you might go quicker through the hairpins, but consider it locked in:

If you want good results, R32.

Appreciate your thorough research! 👍 I may give a few of them a try but guess R32 is where it's at!

 

[MaxAttack]

Appreciate your through research! 👍 I may give a few of them a try but guess R32 is where it's at!

No worries man, it was a fun experiment!

i wouldn't take my word for it 100%, im far from the fastest guy who posts here, but I tend to do a little better in road cars.

hope it's helpful to you guys anyway

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Is the strategy for Race C not to qualify? From what I've been reading here, T1 sounds like a horror story.

 

[Pigems]

I cracked 48 at DTG in the Lambo, just barely, 1:37.998


I also got another tenth out of the R32, down to a 1:04.1, but I can’t squeeze any more out of her yet.


Couldn’t find any more time in the GT-R though, I guess it’s time to start racing now.

 

[Nunogs123]

Race A it's the most fun for me this week.
I did 2 races with the nsx and one victory and 2°place. It's a dificult car to drive but on the two straights i think its the fast car. And i'm the only one to use it ahah, it's only r32 and r34.

 

[Loverson]

Is the strategy for Race C not to qualify? From what I've been reading here, T1 sounds like a horror story.

Ha, i imagine it's gonna be terrible with all the top speed cars on T1

 

[Veinz]

AWD is king for race b, race c looks interesting but I am a bit afraid getting crashed lol

 

[Redsea666]

Hoping to capitalize on my N24 victory, I wanted to close on Sarthe last night. First race did some qualy laps and felt really fast. Started the race and my T150 took a big poo on me. Lost all control and spazzed out. Unplugged USB and reset the wheel after dropping from P5 to P16. Was having a great time coming back and was P10 until the wheel freaked again. Dammit! Reset and tried again, but same result. Quit mid-race. Had to Alonso out of Le Mans for the week. Sigh....

This week looks fun- I'm excited to try all three. All three are friendly to my TC-off practice as well. Gr2 is still TC1. I'll probably spend a lot of time at Monza and DT.

 

[Hasnain282]

I got an okay time at Monza.

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I guess we can confirm that you're a bit better than just an 'okay driver'

On a side note, you can get away with using so much kerb at Monza, especially the first 2 chicanes.

 

[breeminator]

Is the strategy for Race C not to qualify? From what I've been reading here, T1 sounds like a horror story.

It didn't seem TOO bad in Zocker's stream, he took defensive lines into the first two chicanes, turning in early and gradually to block the divebombs. You can't recover from starting too far down the grid if the people at the front are a similar speed to you and don't make any mistakes.

 

[sturk0167]

I cracked 48 at DTG in the Lambo, just barely, 1:37.998


I also got another tenth out of the R32, down to a 1:04.1, but I can’t squeeze any more out of her yet.


Couldn’t find any more time in the GT-R though, I guess it’s time to start racing now.

I'm starting to get Tsukuba dialed in. Down to 1:04.2, but can't figure out a fast way to get through that right-hander that goes under the Dunlop bridge. It feels like the Honda 660 was able to take that turn faster.

 

[gtpierre]

Is the strategy for Race C not to qualify? From what I've been reading here, T1 sounds like a horror story.

Inside line, early careful braking (while checking behind [and praying]) with the track map (not radar) ON to see that cars coming from farther back. After T1, it should get less dangerous and you can relax as soon the second chicane is done.

Also, remember that pit exit can be messy in Monza.

 

[El_Beardo]

Righto chaps, what's the GTR like for tyre wear? I've grown quite attached to it, this week.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Is the strategy for Race C not to qualify? From what I've been reading here, T1 sounds like a horror story.

Combined with not overtaking the wrecks at T1, since then you end up mid traffic for the second chicane with similar results.

So far no luck at a clean race bonus. Second race I did pass some wrecks at T1, then got boxed in for the second chicane. Cars right behind me, McLaren in front of me mistook the turn for a stop sign, could not avoid a tiny bump, SR Down regardless, clean race gone.

Third attempt I was behind a swerver on the straight. His distracting swerving worked as I lost sight of the brake point for T1. Instead of trying to save it, I sped up to aim in between the cars in fron to drive into the reset point. Everyone and all obstacles avoided, but that cost me the clean race anyway. The rest of the race went prefect except I would have lost the clean race bonus on the final turn from a nose sticker trying to grind his way along my inside. SR Down for me. I still beat him to the finish by 0.013 sec.

It's a lot of work, avoiding all the dives and MacLarens spinning out. So far today it feels more like dodge ball than racing. Monday, nobody really knows where to brake. It's definitely better to qualify up front on a Monday. At least those guys practiced. It didn't take long for me to get back in the groove, yet I just crossed 300 races finished on Monza. I've had 65 victories on Monza from when I still qualified, but this week I'll be in the back.

Starting 17th of 20 next race. Difficulty level 11.

 

[Pigems]

I'm starting to get Tsukuba dialed in. Down to 1:04.2, but can't figure out a fast way to get through that right-hander that goes under the Dunlop bridge. It feels like the Honda 660 was able to take that turn faster.

Yeah that’s a tough spot, the car wants to slide through there a bit. I’ve been letting off and shifting to 3rd a smidge early there just before turning in to get all the off throttle time finished before taking the corner, but you can actually take it to fast and have to much speed for the slight left that’s after it lol, it’s a fine line with this combo almost the entire way around. Great Lap man, very well done!

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

The M3 is a fun car for race C. Kind on the tires along with being fairly rapid and nimble. Started 18th in two races this morning and finished 5th and 7th.

 

[Veinz]

1:37.779 in the huracan. A monkey can be quick with this thing. Respect to the guy who got a 37.716 in the Mustang.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

And this is what starting 17th looks like

That whole race was a mess. I got bumped off couple times, and get SR Down for it. Especially the last corner is easy to bump people across the outer line and get away with it. Also got a 1 sec penalty from being on the inside of a corner with a car that couldn't drive side by side. First SR loss today, -12 to 87. So much bumping.

 

[MaxAttack]

Well, I've done my science for the boys, how about a race in B to warm up for the week?

I chucked in a 1.41.243 while waiting (don't know this track very well) in the Lambo and started 11th. Pretty mixed field, plenty of Lambos of course but I started behind a Renault and an Atenza and there were some other choices up and down the grid.

Chaos at the chicanes. I slipped through where I could, capitalising on errors and the OLambo's very trustable throttle pedal. I smashed some dude in the door through the first chicane, but he had lost control and come across the track, **** all I could do about it. Got SR up over the timing line as confirmation. I was having a fun battle with the brit in the Mazda all the way round til lap 3, which is when everyone lost their patience. Seemed like through every corner someone was getting punted or just recklessly sending it and everyone was swapping between 11th and 6th. I went way too deep on the brakes into that super tight left hairpin, but managed to just about keep the tow, and due to the chaos I was back in 6th approaching the final turn. t

Now, most of these guys have been behind me through here for 3 laps, so I'm calling it a deliberate punt I received, and I think only a deliberate punt is strong enough to send you to the far wall.

Back to 12th. I tail the Atenza so we can work together. Evidently he did not have an easy time through that corner. So much contact going on up ahead, i'm almost glad not to be in there. We each gained another place via a crash, so I ended up exactly where I'd started.

"Excellent driving everybody!" I told the lobby, then apologised to the Mazda for hitting him explaining that i'd been punted.

He told me not to worry, and that it was because we have the Brit flag.

maybe he has a point. IDk. I did my best to keep it clean but people were driving like absolute fools. Very frustrating to work up 5 positions and then lose it all to overtly dirty driving. The guys who were punting everyone didn't seem to suffer much. They all ended up 6-9ish, where the Mazda and I should have been.

Sort your **** out, EMEA B rank drivers. SR S is meant to prevent me dealing with that ****.

Sidenote: South African guy in the lobby. 1 bar connection. Poor guy, why the hell is SA in our region?

 

[breeminator]

McLaren in front of me mistook the turn for a stop sign, could not avoid a tiny bump

Isn't that bound to happen when you deliberately qualify slower than your ability? If the car in front is slower than you, there must be bits of the track where they're going to go slower than you would, as they must be losing the time somewhere. You can't know in advance which bits of the track they're particularly rubbish at, so sooner or later they'll appear to brake check you when they're actually just driving as best they can.

 

[Lgirasol]

Got a solid third place this morning on Race B. There’s a win here for me, I can smell it. With just 46 wins out of some 1900ish races the thrill of victory is particularly sweet for me.

Got my qualifying down in the Lamborghini thanks to @Pigems video for the help (I can’t believe you get so low in the downshifts!). But I really like my grocery getter Sirrocco in the race—nimble and good braking distance versus some of the exotics.

 

[MaxAttack]

Isn't that bound to happen when you deliberately qualify slower than your ability? If the car in front is slower than you, there must be bits of the track where they're going to go slower than you would, as they must be losing the time somewhere. You can't know in advance which bits of the track they're particularly rubbish at, so sooner or later they'll appear to brake check you when they're actually just driving as best they can.

This logic seems to elude quite a lot of people. Being quick at the back and passing slower guys is a lot less stressful than starting p1 and defending for an entire race, so I doubt it will stop.