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Man o man.....

So, last night, I found a better technique for the Huracan in Race B. I got my qualifying time down to 1:38.1

HOWEVER

Just before one of the races, I was warming up. I crossed the line with a 1:39.0. As I rounded the last corner, I was -1.330, as I was about to cross the line, -1.228...AND.... loading race. I was literally, less than second away from posting a sub 1:38 time when the race loaded. I tried to do it again, but it was late and it had been a mentally taxing day of work for me. I couldn't focus anymore.
 
Tea_Leaves
Nope, never. I always make sure to dress up my cars before heading out to the track.
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We can be friends. :cheers:

05XR8
What about white? I like the white 458.
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Just stick a logo on it, please! :(

I do understand though. I realise I get a bit obsessive - I sat down on my PS4 last night about 8pm and decided I wanted to run around Goodwood in the Evo, alas I realised it was vanilla and I couldn't be having that. I didn't compete until the 9.30pm race.
 
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Sven Jurgens
Two races this morning on Goodwood, another no stop vs one stop.

Today the one stop was much faster over all, 17 sec faster. However the no-stop had me finish 6th with the clean race bonus, while the one stop was a 7th place finish without clean race bonus thanks to getting bumped from behind. The no-stop was a lot slower this time because I got stuck behind a 1 bar connection who was all over the place and braking in the wrong places, dragging my lap times down to 1:23 and 1:24. I tried to pass him yet he or his connection kept banging me until he had 6 sec in penalties so I could finally get by in the penalty zone. That did mean I had plenty fuel left to keep up in the second half but too much damage was done already.

Fastest lap of 1:18.2 in the no stop, 1:16.175 in the one stop. 20:17.2 race time in the no stop, 20:00.7 in the one stop. My best no stop time so far was 20:02, one stop is in the lead.
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I tried to stop for fuel only, in a race yesterday. Turned out to be a pretty stupid idea. Might as well get new tires if your're stopping anyway. Won't do that again. I think I was on beer # 6 or 7.

Also, somehow my SR this morning is at 43. There's only 1 guy that I remember hitting on purpose. It must have been from quitting a few races.

Daily goal: Win all three races at least once. I don't think I've ever done that, because usually there's one weekly race that I won't touch. (win total, this week is at 0)

Have you settled on 1 vehicle for race C?
 
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Did 2 yesterday afternoon. 1 Race A. 1 Race B. Up 2 spots in both races. Best results of the week for me. Still lost DR. :lol:

Noticed on DT Seaside, at the chicane, there used to be a penalty for cutting too close to the inside apex. No penalty anymore but when I went too inside yesterday, wheels got caught in the dip and I spun out. Luckily it was just in practice. Watch out.

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I really have to take my hat off to PD for adding in Goodwood. Being British I was aware of the track but hadn't seen the layout before, which on paper doesn't look at all inspiring. Lot's of high speed corners, few braking zones and a bizarre little chicane at the end. I've come to love it though as getting the laps right is highly satisfying, and the punishments for making a mistake are high.

I only managed one race yesterday that remarkably I won from third, again just by a bit of fuel saving meaning I jumped the top 2 in the pit stop phase. Manage 15 clean laps and you'll be rewarded. Utterly boring race though :lol:

This morning I get put in a lobby as the only B driver against all A and A+ drivers, starting 10th. First few laps are extremely close but everyone is clean. I manage to get up to 7th only to make a handful of mistakes that leave me 16th. All my errors were unforced, so it was all on me. Only a half decent result would have put me back into DR:A :banghead:

I've put in some solid qualifying time using the 4C and Kie's track guide to get my time down to a 1:14.978, that I'm extremely happy with. Starting near the front is so important to avoid the lap 1 congestion, so hopefully that will help.

I've been 1 stopping for fuel only in the Ferrari all week and feel ready to attempt no stopping something else. I did a few laps in the NSX which felt comfortable and I understand can be no stopped so will give that a go.

Thanks again PD :gtpflag:
 
This is madness... this is Goodwood! Took the Aston for a spin and beat my fake6 time. Had me starting P9/18 on a mixed grid of DR/C and B with a few Ds thrown in.

The start was insane. I thought I had the brake on lightly and my car started to roll .. false start penalty right off the bat :crazy:. Dropped to P12, then back to P9 by St Marys. Then down to P12... up to P7 by lap 4, then lap 5 I was knocked off (this seems to be the theme for this race tonight) down to P16. A 5s penalty for hitting a wall after being rammed didn't help. By lap 9 I was back up to P8, then had a massive off and down to P12. I managed to get up to P10, then dropped down again to P15 lap 12 with a 5s penalty for hitting a wall. I still don't understand the logic in giving someone a massive penalty for hitting a wall when the very act screws you over to begin with :banghead:. I had to pit at the end of lap 13 because all those offs had totally screwed my fuel economy having to drop down gears just to get the car moving and back under control. Didn't help my tyre wear either :rolleyes:. Finished P13. I feel sorry for the Aston... it was capable of so much more. I reckon I spent more time off the track than on :mad:.

SR dropped 4, DR dropped a bit under 400. Day 2 in DR/C :odd:.
 
Can anyone tell me how to get better starts with the TT Cup at Goodwood?

Ive tried traction 1 for the first part of the launch and then going back to traction off, i've tried a standard traction off start, but everytime I get mobbed by Lambos/ferraris.

I've race with the lambos/ferraris and they're amazing off the line, but the fuel is always horrendous compared to the TT Cup... it feels like the TT Cup can run around in fuel map 2 and still have 20% more fuel at the pitstops, so usually if they're even remotely close the TT wins the pitstop battle.

I tried the RC F but i just cannot get the low - mid 15s in the race that I can get with the Audi, it just felt lackluster compared to the other 3 options.

Plus IIRC it has 7 gears, like the lambo, which is one of the reasons I prefer the Audi... less gears for manual on a controller is just one less thing to think about each corner.
 
Here's some of yesterday's action.

In the first clip, I went from 19th to 8th before lap 2. It was fun, but I was making plans to hammer the red TT that was hitting everybody, including the orange car, who is a guy on my friends list (I can't allow that). He screwed himself, before I got the chance. :lol:


In the next clip, I led the whole race, up to this point, because I finally qualified. The idiot coming up behind me was a non-qualifier, that was faster than me. The beginning of lap 13 is the first time I was ever near him. He should've had no trouble passing me. Instead, he hit me 5 times within 30 seconds. The contact at turn 1 could've been a mistake. No problem. The last two hits, which cost me a shot at a podium finish, let me know I was being targeted, and sealed his fate. Another name on my list. :mischievous: I assume it was because of the bumper sticker. :lol:
 
Wavathar
Hi! I'm new to the forums but I've been lurking for about a month. Amazing community.
A question: I just clocked a 1'14.876 (.130 above my current optimal) at Goodwood with the TT Cup using a pad. Realistically, how much faster would I probably be if I were using a wheel?
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Generally speaking the type of controller isn't as big of a factor as the driver.

There are many DS4 controller users at the top. Some even qualified for the Finals but switched to wheel for the events. Some of the drivers in the regional Top 10 are controller users as well.

And @sturk0167 is messing with you. He's a pad. And a damn fast one.
 
Wavathar
Hi! I'm new to the forums but I've been lurking for about a month. Amazing community.
A question: I just clocked a 1'14.876 (.130 above my current optimal) at Goodwood with the TT Cup using a pad. Realistically, how much faster would I probably be if I were using a wheel?
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Out of the box, you won't. From what I've read it takes anywhere from 1 to 3 months of acclimation before you approach your pad times. Which makes sense, it's a totally different input interface and all of your learned tactile sense of repetition and control on the pad will just go out the window. If you have the money though, go for it. What's the point of being good at this game if you can't translate any of that skill into the real world anyways?
 
Wavathar
It's short for DUALSHOCK™4 wireless controller. :lol:
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Joystick became joypad when they took the stick away. Joypad became pad when everyone presumably realised that joypad was a rubbish name. So is joystick for that matter.

In certain circles I'm sure "joystick" could easily be misinterpreted. Not here though, in this incredibly sensible community.
 
About to test a no stop with the RC in a private lobby.

Wavathar
Hi! I'm new to the forums but I've been lurking for about a month. Amazing community.
A question: I just clocked a 1'14.876 (.130 above my current optimal) at Goodwood with the TT Cup using a pad. Realistically, how much faster would I probably be if I were using a wheel?
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It really depends. Like others have said it will take DS4 users time to acclimate but even then you might never be faster. With a wheel you get finer inputs BUT masssive oh crap moments can be much harder to save because you have to rotate a wheel vs a quick joystick press on the DS4. I find I use the brakes a lot more to rotate the car vs quick direction changes of the DS4.

It’s all a trade off, but the finer inputs make it much better for consistency. So even if you only match or are slightly slower than your DS4 time, your consistency will be much greater.
 
O604
Generally speaking the type of controller isn't as big of a factor as the driver.

There are many DS4 controller users at the top. Some even qualified for the Finals but switched to wheel for the events. Some of the drivers in the regional Top 10 are controller users as well.

And @sturk0167 is messing with you. He's a pad. And a damn fast one.
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I've always assumed that's what it meant, but wasn't positive. :dunce: I thought that it may refer to using the D pad for steering.
 
BallPtPenTheif
Out of the box, you won't. From what I've read it takes anywhere from 1 to 3 months of acclimation before you approach your pad times. Which makes sense, it's a totally different input interface and all of your learned tactile sense of repetition and control on the pad will just go out the window. If you have the money though, go for it. What's the point of being good at this game if you can't translate any of that skill into the real world anyways?
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Great so I'll be a pro in no time then :lol:
 
O604
Generally speaking the type of controller isn't as big of a factor as the driver.

There are many DS4 controller users at the top. Some even qualified for the Finals but switched to wheel for the events. Some of the drivers in the regional Top 10 are controller users as well.

And @sturk0167 is messing with you. He's a pad. And a damn fast one.
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I think about this scene from Days of Thunder all the time, when I'm reading this forum. Often, there are discussions about car stuff that I don't even understand. Me make car go fast, though. :dopey:
 
Deadpool
About to test a no stop with the RC in a private lobby.



It really depends. Like others have said it will take DS4 users time to acclimate but even then you might never be faster. With a wheel you get finer inputs BUT masssive oh crap moments can be much harder to save because you have to rotate a wheel vs a quick joystick press on the DS4. I find I use the brakes a lot more to rotate the car vs quick direction changes of the DS4.

It’s all a trade off, but the finer inputs make it much better for consistency. So even if you only match or are slightly slower than your DS4 time, your consistency will be much greater.
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I disagree with this tbh..

I think with the wheel it's actually far easier to save mistakes, because steering is infinitely better on a wheel & has a much bigger (degree of turning?) than a controller.

What I mean is, a lot of the time if you make a mistake on a controller & try to correct, you're often going for a spin because the margin of error is absolutely minute on a controller & therefore much more difficult to be consistently fast with, in comparison to a wheel.

Wheels have always been an advantage, for the simple reason that you can turn all assists off and it's still super easy to control the car, and easy to be fast enough... The time to learn just isn't as long or arduous as it is on a controller, & the risk of mistakes is far less.

Thats why I always wish they'd split wheel & controller users so it's a fair battleground when it comes to racing.

& let's not even talk about tyre wear on controllers... my god.
 
sturk0167
I think about this scene from Days of Thunder all the time, when I'm reading this forum. Often, there are discussions about car stuff that I don't even understand. Me make car go fast, though. :dopey:
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Haha, I love that scene. Cruise went overboard and acted it out with all of the shame one would have if they were admitting that they were illiterate. And John C Reilly looks as old then as he looks now.
 
RC no stop is pointless. Did a test and lap times plummet to mid 1:17’s on average for 15 laps. That’s 2sec off it’s normal pace. Over 15 laps that equals 30+ seconds, and the pit stop is shorter plus fresh tires. No brained with the RC

GhostCaliber
I disagree with this tbh..

I think with the wheel it's actually far easier to save mistakes, because steering is infinitely better on a wheel & has a much bigger (degree of turning?) than a controller.

What I mean is, a lot of the time if you make a mistake on a controller & try to correct, you're often going for a spin because the margin of error is absolutely minute on a controller & therefore much more difficult to be consistently fast with, in comparison to a wheel.

Wheels have always been an advantage, for the simple reason that you can turn all assists off and it's still super easy to control the car, and easy to be fast enough... The time to learn just isn't as long or arduous as it is on a controller, & the risk of mistakes is far less.

Thats why I always wish they'd split wheel & controller users so it's a fair battleground when it comes to racing.

& let's not even talk about tyre wear on controllers... my god.
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That’s why I said it’s only worse for the massive mistakes. For mid corner tiny-medium corrections wheel is vastly superior.

And 100% agree on separating wheel users from controllers......with exceptions. We have a few guys here who are aliens with controllers.

Tire wear is a huge difference. I race with a buddy weekly in a league, he’s controller and we race with high tire wear. He usually pits 3 laps before me and is struggling to keep pace after a few laps.
 
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sturk0167
Here's some of yesterday's action.

In the first clip, I went from 19th to 8th before lap 2. It was fun, but I was making plans to hammer the red TT that was hitting everybody, including the orange car, who is a guy on my friends list (I can't allow that). He screwed himself, before I got the chance. :lol:


In the next clip, I led the whole race, up to this point, because I finally qualified. The idiot coming up behind me was a non-qualifier, that was faster than me. The beginning of lap 13 is the first time I was ever near him. He should've had no trouble passing me. Instead, he hit me 5 times within 30 seconds. The contact at turn 1 could've been a mistake. No problem. The last two hits, which cost me a shot at a podium finish, let me know I was being targeted, and sealed his fate. Another name on my list. :mischievous: I assume it was because of the bumper sticker. :lol:
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Good racing. Funny that your sticker "triggers" certain people into being donkeys. :p
 
Pigems
I just had an though, what if PD gave us an in Race “Ghost” button? As in having the ability to assign a button that can ghost your own car on command for a second or two in the event of something crazy happening in front of or behind you that you don’t want to get caught up in. Think that would solve more problems than it would cause? You could in theory ghost out on a dive bomber, or do it when the guy in front of you wrecks/spins out and becomes an unavoidable wall. :)
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You could overtake people by driving straight through them!

watto79
This sounds about right. I've only ever known weekly races (bought the game in August) and I've definitely raced Gr.4 at Bathurst. I seem to remember the Megane being the popular car.
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Gr.4 was at Bathurst in a Manufacturers race at some point, I don't remember it being a daily.
 
Dunno why. But my first race of the day is always horrible. Started P1, spun maybe 5 times P11 finish. Pit early on 7 to get clean air which helped. Got fast lap by a second though :lol:

Dunno if it’s the transition from quali physics to race, but yeah first race is my warm up lol.
 
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