"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Nuschel01]

You wouldn't see too many A+ guys at that race, either.

I‘d be there all the time

 

[breeminator]

I've been saying for a long time that I'd love to have a race D, where you never know the track or car until you enter. Everyone gets to watch the roulette wheel spin, once the sign-up countdown ends.

You wouldn't see too many A+ guys at that race, either.

My experience from FH4, where all the ranked racing is like that, is that it's exactly where the A+ players would go, in that it gives a HUGE advantage to the people who've spent 4000 hours familiarising themselves with every last detail of every car and track combination.

 

[Highlandor]

The Toyotas for Race C need their hybrids swapped over, TS030 runs out and it's a little slow, TS050 has an abundance of hybrid power and is way too popular (fast).

Been chipping away in my beloved 030... quite chuffed can occasionally dip into the '25's in the race (clean lap, no slipstream), but it's deja vous as always when the meta car drivers walzt past you with their straightline advantage, then block you all over the track when you're faster in the turns...

Oh well, c'est la vie.....

See how long I can last driving my own car before get so sick of being violated in a straightline I give up and go meta... (normally 4-5 days)..

 

[koshmare]

Hop laps is here!

 

[Stencedaddy]

Learning the track purely in sport mode races has cost me 9K DR bucks so far, down to 31.8K. Giving back to the community

In. Thanks for the giveaway.

 

[breeminator]

If any of you "start from the back" guys in the US/Canada fancy taking him on, Kie is starting race C from the back at the moment with his US account.

 

[sturk0167]

My experience from FH4, where all the ranked racing is like that, is that it's exactly where the A+ players would go, in that it gives a HUGE advantage to the people who've spent 4000 hours familiarising themselves with every last detail of every car and track combination.

Those A+ guys would be in the minority. Especially if the starting order was random, too.
Some of them don't worry about it and do lots of Sport racing. Most of them cherry-pick their races. (see post #706 by Sven).

 

[ASH32]

If any of you "start from the back" guys in the US/Canada fancy taking him on, Kie is starting race C from the back at the moment with his US account

Well he ran from the front earlier in the EMEA region and in the race I was in, no one was close enough to him to give him any sort of challenge. I ruined my own race with a dumb spin and ended up way down but when his fastest lap was a 1:24.1 to my 1:24.8 I wasn't getting near him anyway.

 

[Pigems]

I’ve got the 86 in Race A down to a 12.0 so far, gonna watch @Mistah_MCA ’s Lap a few times now and then go chase him a round for a bit. Great Lap man!

 

[Stencedaddy]

So I bought a 55 inch LED 4K UHD TV yesterday and i gotta say GT looks goddamn amazing. I had been playing on a 37 inch 1080p LCD i bought like 8 years ago lol. New TV has made cockpit so much nicer. The big TV makes it feel like the windshield is actual size lmao. Plus i can see the track better now. Keep in mind my room is small and i sit less than 10 feet away. Finally able to use HDR and it looks good as ****. Glad i bought a new tv and not a ps4 pro. Mostly bought it now so i dont need to get a 4k tv at the same time ps5 inevitably releases.

Feels like an Imax screen in my room lol

 

[Pigems]

@Dairyworker Tag, You’re It.

Great Lap!

 

[250Cal]

Is Race C a no-stop Toyota TS050-fest?

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Give up! He will *never* notice you. He's more interested in the new girl.... you know...the popular one with glasses .

Interestingly, I wear glasses, so he's probably interested in me.

Have you considered what I do yet? I have a % of region best cut off that I have to reach before being "good enough" to race. As I've improved my racing so too the % has increased so a few months back 4 or 5% of region pole was OK. Then it was sub 4%. Currently it's between 1.5 and 3% with an optimum of 2.5%. Basically I can see what all the crazy folk who stay up 'till 4 am are getting (@Mistah_MCA ) but I can only really judge by Q times with my own previous races. So, if your last 4 races you were at +2% of region best you'll know (+/- .5%) when you are ready to race St Croix.

HEY NOW, Who are you calling crazy! I definitely do NOT go to bed at 4 A- I said that, didn't I?

Senpai loosely translated means 'use brake warning message'

BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE. I have it off. I wonder if I'll be faster with it on.

Who are you people, aliens?!

Maybe.

High 2:09s are possible, but haaard to get

Definitely. Same story goes for 2:07 on the B race. I'm at 2:08.1 now, and I think I've worn myself out for that race's TT.

Congratulations on having the fastest top 10 time in this weeks B race! I’m struggling to get out of the 2:14’s with the NSX. I loaded your replay for some pointers and there was no driver in the car. Funny! I switched to cockpit view in your Toyota and sure enough there was no one in there.

Thanks! I was warming up the seat for Deafsun. My time could only be up there for so long!
Well, it IS October, so Casper is probably driving the car!

#1 02:08.447 Mistah MCA
👍👍👍

#4 now haha. It was fun while it lasted.

 

[ASH32]

Is Race C a no-stop Toyota TS050-fest?

No it's a 1 stop Toyota TS050 fest. You can do it without refueling but you may need a splash, depends on how you drive. You may as well stop for tyres though as the softs will probably fall off too much doing 14 laps and the mediums will be slower even no stopping.

 

[JEverettL]

Interestingly, I wear glasses, so he's probably interested in me.


HEY NOW, Who are you calling crazy! I definitely do NOT go to bed at 4 A- I said that, didn't I?


BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE. I have it off. I wonder if I'll be faster with it on.


Maybe.


Definitely. Same story goes for 2:07 on the B race. I'm at 2:08.1 now, and I think I've worn myself out for that race's TT.


Thanks! I was warming up the seat for Deafsun. My time could only be up there for so long!
Well, it IS October, so Casper is probably driving the car!


#4 now haha. It was fun while it lasted.

haha! There must have been a glitch with my playstation this morning. I loaded three more top 10 "ghosts" after yours and they were literally that. No one in the drivers seat and in cockpit view the steering wheels weren't turning.

 

[MIE1992]

How do you think Gr.1 could be potentially better-balanced? I.e. why do you suppose the TS050 dominates over the other Gr.1 hybrids? There's quite a few, between the other LMP1 cars and the VGTs. One would think that the Audi R18 and Porsche 919 from the same year as the TS050 would be comparable, and maybe the GT-R LM Nismo from one year before, too. Especially since, in GT, it doesn't have to deal with the drivetrain issues it had in real life.

I'd honestly keep all the current cars in Gr.1, and even add the hypercar class from the future WEC seasons, while trying to balance all cars at once in the situation they're in the same field. But instead of typically permitting all cars in a group when said group is featured, Gr.1 (and maybe other classes) would also have "sub-groups," and for the overwhelming majority of races (as in, as common as tuning is disabled, or drafting isn't set to "strong"), these "sub-groups would be the norm. Here's how I'd take Gr.1 and make these sub-groups:

-LMP1 (which could also include LMP-inspired VGTs, like the Mazda and Hyundai cars)
-"WEC Hypercar" (which would include the other Gr.1 VGTs, especially for Alpine, Bugatti and Audi)
-Group C (especially since this had a few classes in real life, like C1 and C2)

Perhaps a slightly more practical idea instead, though, would be to simply have restrictions on the eligible cars, like those Gr.4 races that limit you to the FF cars. But I also think it'd be nice to have names attached to these groups, too, to add to the presentation. A bit like how lobbies in GT6 had various names of car groups in lobbies.

For maximum accessibility, I'd also make all cars provided cars - I can see this especially being a good idea when more in-depth tuning returns, like being able to apply aerodynamic kits to road cars.

But I have no idea what PD's goals are, or what they're doing, so I don't feel like one to judge at the moment - though I really wish I had the information necessary to make a more ideal, fitting suggestion. Otherwise, I could think of a lot of ideas/suggestions on very specific topics, but only very few of them, if any, will be practical and apply to the goals that PD may have for that topic.

 

[Pigems]

If I can just figure out the 1st hairpin I think I’ve got it, the car keeps coming to a stop on me right around the apex lol.

@Mistah_MCA What BB are you using? I started on +2 but I’m currently at 0.

 

[GT5Power]

How do you think Gr.1 could be potentially better-balanced? I.e. why do you suppose the TS050 dominates over the other Gr.1 hybrids? There's quite a few, between the other LMP1 cars and the VGTs.

The TS050 dominates thanks to its hybrid boost. At Fuji, the R18 cannot even generate enough boost for one lap (that's why it's not meta in QTT, as is usually the case). The 919 doesn't run out over a lap; however, it does in the race (or so I've heard). That leaves the TS050, which is the worst out of the three on one lap pace but the best at regenerating its boost throughout a race. It also has better fuel economy than the other two. As for literally every other Gr.1 car, they lack the ridiculous acceleration that these three have, so they get killed on corner exits.

As a side note, I've officially made it through Monday still in the top 10 (P8), which I see as an absolute win in EMEA

 

[Sven Jurgens]

My 2:13 is about 2 sec slower than pole in the lower Dr. Does the lower Dr in NA really run 4 seconds faster than me? I need to up my game I think...

No, I'm still getting in the top lobbies, A+ and A. In NA when you are SR.S you usually get placed with the fastest guys if your DR is over 20K or even down to 1 in off hours. It's very unusual to see 5 A+ and the rest A at noon in NA, it's not even that likely at prime time. A+/S to D/S lobbies are the norm here. Between 7pm and 9pm (EST) 4pm to 6pm (PST) you have a decent chance of getting two lobbies in SR.S, A+ to B and B to D. There are only enough entries to make multiple SR.S lobbies when prime racing time from east and west coast overlap. 3 hour time difference doesn't help.

Ah my first red S on race B. I'm starting to gain positions, 7 last race, thus get bumped from behind by the fast in slow out crowd. That right turn after the bridge is the worst, take it so you can accelerate out instead of coast to avoid the wall... I need a new bumper.

 

[El_Beardo]

That's enough of trying to organise a race for me. Time to have a smoke, then jump on for some Fuji fun.

 

[MIE1992]

The TS050 dominates thanks to its hybrid boost. At Fuji, the R18 cannot even generate enough boost for one lap (that's why it's not meta in QTT, as is usually the case). The 919 doesn't run out over a lap; however, it does in the race (or so I've heard). That leaves the TS050, which is the worst out of the three on one lap pace but the best at regenerating its boost throughout a race. It also has better fuel economy than the other two. As for literally every other Gr.1 car, they lack the ridiculous acceleration that these three have, so they get killed on corner exits.

Even the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo? And how would you propose balancing the modern LMPs? (I.e. both R18s, the TS030, TS050, 908 HDI FAP, and the 919? And maybe the LMP-inspired VGTs like the Mazda and Hyundai cars?) Maybe a BoP change that slightly decreases the power of the TS050 would help? Is boost affected by BoP changes, anyway? Like, is the listed HP of a car that has hybrid boost the HP of the car with or without the boost? Could fuel consumption rates have something to do with it? What if the boost was applied manually instead of automatically?

 

[sturk0167]

Maybe a BoP change could slightly decrease the power of the TS050? Is boost affected by BoP changes, anyway?

Just add about 500 pounds to that sucker.

 

[Dairyworker]

@Pigems nice time sir. I hope to get some time tonight to run more laps, i was honestly only just starting to feel like i could push it.

 

[Pigems]

Down to a 2:10.8 now in the 86, time to go try out St Croix now. Thanks for the loan of your ghost @Mistah_MCA , he was most helpful.



@Dairyworker Thanks man, You’ll be into the 10’s in no time. You just gotta finesse this one, easy on, easy off with Pedals, same for the wheel.

 

[MIE1992]

Just add about 500 pounds to that sucker.

But I think that'd just make it useless. The goal, I think, is to just make it not overpowered. So maybe a slight weight increase, but not over 200kg.

And what about the GT-R LM Nismo? I wonder why people say it's so bad in GTS when it doesn't have to deal with the real-life drivetrain issues that it had?

 

[El_Beardo]

Next Fuji race, I'm running from the back, with zero practice, in the 908.

For anyone on the American servers, avoid Y_Dyn_Barfog like the plague, for the first lap...

 

[sturk0167]

And what about the GT-R LM Nismo? I wonder why people say it's so bad in GTS when it doesn't have to deal with the real-life drivetrain issues that it had?

A lot of people just don't like the feel of front-wheel drive cars in any of the classes.

 

[MIE1992]

Wow, I was actually looking at past BoP updates, and it looks like they haven't done too many updates for Gr.1. Most of them only involve one car - one that's being added as DLC - and maybe a couple on rare occasions. It's interesting, though, in that it makes more sense to focus on Gr.3, Gr.4, and Gr.B since those series seem to be featured the most between the Nations Cup and Manufacturer Series, especially if you remove the one-make races from the Nations Cup. (Though I do think the Megane needs a little more weight added.)

 

[Redneckchef]

Anybody in Asia had a go at Race C? Looking to do some @Sven Jurgens style drive from the back races, but without his raw speed. How nasty/clean or empty are they? Sitting at low A SR so looking to cruise and learn track from the back while taking advantage of the spinners and rage quitters.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

No, I'm still getting in the top lobbies, A+ and A. In NA when you are SR.S you usually get placed with the fastest guys if your DR is over 20K or even down to 1 in off hours. It's very unusual to see 5 A+ and the rest A at noon in NA, it's not even that likely at prime time. A+/S to D/S lobbies are the norm here. Between 7pm and 9pm (EST) 4pm to 6pm (PST) you have a decent chance of getting two lobbies in SR.S, A+ to B and B to D. There are only enough entries to make multiple SR.S lobbies when prime racing time from east and west coast overlap. 3 hour time difference doesn't help.

Ah my first red S on race B. I'm starting to gain positions, 7 last race, thus get bumped from behind by the fast in slow out crowd. That right turn after the bridge is the worst, take it so you can accelerate out instead of coast to avoid the wall... I need a new bumper.

Had a red SR too... First lap as p3, gets dive-bombed at the left after the bridge, then lap 2 a Hurracan Infront of me brakes hard in the esses before the bridge. Nowhere to go so I hit him, he hits the wall, I get 5. Same on lap 3. A total of 13 seconds. Finished p10.

Went ba k to qualify. Tried a bunch of different cars,still slower than the Atenza for me, even the META.
Took the Mclaren F1 GT-R, lowered to 1:12:8

That's it for me tonight. See you guys soon

Wow, I was actually looking at past BoP updates, and it looks like they haven't done too many updates for Gr.1. Most of them only involve one car - one that's being added as DLC - and maybe a couple on rare occasions. It's interesting, though, in that it makes more sense to focus on Gr.3, Gr.4, and Gr.B since those series seem to be featured the most between the Nations Cup and Manufacturer Series, especially if you remove the one-make races from the Nations Cup. (Though I do think the Megane needs a little more weight added.)

Remember that the FIA races are just run by a very small percentage of the online racers.