"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[6BK]

@05XR8 ...so it's called the Bidet corner? Is there something in the game that gives it this name or is it just because every time I go 'round it I've got to clean my arse after?

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

It's also very difficult (impossible?) to come out of the final corner behind a TS050 and outdrag it to the line in another TS050. If you're infront at the final corner, and the other driver is clean, and you don't make a mistake, I think you win. See below:



On a different note I think it's a shame back markers have to be ghosted but clearly understand why.

The slipstream feels really ineffective this week you can only gain a few tenths down the whole straight which forces the overtakes to be done late in the braking zone.

 

[6BK]

Variations in ping. What the server sees is slightly different to what you see due to differences in time for position updates to arrive both at the server and at your system. If all three cars were exactly equal on your screen, final positions would be decided by lag. You're in AU so probably 3 yellow bars, the Japanese drivers probably four or five green. In a finish like this it'll likely give them a slight advantage.

I put things like this down the the hitbox around the car's model. You are probably right about ping but on occasion I'm sure we've all experienced an "orange SR down" when a car behind got really close but did not hit. I always figured it was because while the program did not generate a "bump" effect of the two cars hitting as far as the modeling was concerned there was an overlap.

 

[250Cal]

It was always pretty easy to drive on the DS4 with good acceleration, countered by bad brakes. Hence I can't stand the car as it was the one that rear ended me the most at Mount Panorama. I guess the updates gave it a higher top speed plus the wide track makes the worse brakes less of an issue, lots of space to save the corner and accelerate away again. The thing also acts like a tank, perfect ram vehicle. Guess who drives it all the time....

My issue with it was getting it hooked up on corner exit where it would get really loose if you were a little too keen on the throttle.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Hi Jurgens, what do you mean with ' it drives like a thank, guess who drives it all the time' ?

It's certainly feels lighter than the Mustang for an example.

A certain very dirty Canadian driver uses it a lot and was driving it all week at Tokyo last week. The car seems to be able to absorb and dish out blows better than many other cars.

 

[MortosDer]

This is what peak performance (under the influence) looks like. Streaming dailies.

I speak in Spanish most of the time. If there's any English speaking viewers let me know haha

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Variations in ping. What the server sees is slightly different to what you see due to differences in time for position updates to arrive both at the server and at your system. If all three cars were exactly equal on your screen, final positions would be decided by lag. You're in AU so probably 3 yellow bars, the Japanese drivers probably four or five green. In a finish like this it'll likely give them a slight advantage.

It's the other way around. The server doesn't see anything it only compares the times the clients report. What everyone sees on their screen is slightly different due to forward prediction which varies with lag. The cars you see around you are not quite where they seem to be, they are all predicted to be there based on older data. Some could be slightly ahead, some slightly behind.

There is no advantage to lower ping when it comes to finish time. The race starts with everyone synchronized so all the clients start measuring the race time from the same zero point, and in the end the server compares your race time with everyone else. That's how sometimes a car that is not visible all race due to lag suddenly shows up in the end results, often even as the winner since they had the track all to themselves all race.

3 photo finish pictures from 3 different people will all look slightly different.

Meanwhile, doesn't matter how wide the road is, still get squeezed on the grass at race B. Report, don't retaliate. Although the second might be more effective to stop this behavior.

 

[Invisigoth]

A certain very dirty Canadian driver uses it a lot and was driving it all week at Tokyo last week. The car seems to be able to absorb and dish out blows better than many other cars.

@Pigems ?

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Pigems ?

@Pigems did you get to race at all at Tokyo last week?

 

[Pigems]

@Pigems did you get to race at all at Tokyo last week?

Only on Saturday night when it was safe to do so.

 

[Redsea666]

Fuji is punishing me, but it's so fun. Perfect length, mando pit (for me, at least), and GROUP1SPEED. Best I've done is 10th.... so there is that.

St. Croix is fun as well, but jeez I suck at it. Gotta get my entry speeds down for the bridge and the sweeping right afterward.

My DR/SR will just have to suffer in the meantime.

 

[250Cal]

Race B. Interesting comparisons in Gr.3 in terms of the lap times that can be achieved and how easy it is to extract, which is key for a racing car rather than just a hot lap. My record is still only a 2:08.7 so I am by no means quick but I'd certainly advocate trying things other than the GT-R. The Huracan is fastest for me but is not the easiest to drive. The Merc '16 is predictable and benign but a bit slower. The 458 is a bit less secure than the Merc but more so than the Huracan. I can knock out consistent mid 2:09s in that with a 2:09.4 within a handful of laps of getting in it, so there's more to come there with a little bit of testing. Sub 2:09 I reckon. I saved a few replays and the comparisons are interesting. I'd also recommend people watch their own hot lap replays to see how the care behaves. You can pick up things about the track from watching the replay that aren't so obvious in-car.

In short, if the GT-R isn't working for you, try the Huracan. If the Huracan is too tricky, try the 458. If that's still too inconsistent, go back to the Merc and build from there.

I await @Sven Jurgens ' table of every car!

@Pigems , your times don't show up on my leaderboards for some reason.

 

[Invisigoth]

Only on Saturday night when it was safe to do so.

When is Tokyo *ever* safe?

 

[Pigems]

@Pigems Your times don't show up on my leaderboards for some reason.

We must be in different regions, for some reason it will only show friends times on your list if you are in the same region, it’s kinda dumb. It shows all friends on the new TT Leaderboards I’m pretty sure.

When is Tokyo *ever* safe?

I always feel safe racing with you guys.

 

[6BK]

Race B. Interesting comparisons in Gr.3 in terms of the lap times that can be achieved and how easy it is to extract, which is key for a racing car rather than just a hot lap. My record is still only a 2:08.7 so I am by no means quick but I'd certainly advocate trying things other than the GT-R. The Huracan is fastest for me but is not the easiest to drive. The Merc '16 is predictable and benign but a bit slower. The 458 is a bit less secure than the Merc but more so than the Huracan. I can knock out consistent mid 2:09s in that with a 2:09.4 within a handful of laps of getting in it, so there's more to come there with a little bit of testing. Sub 2:09 I reckon. I saved a few replays and the comparisons are interesting. I'd also recommend people watch their own hot lap replays to see how the care behaves. You can pick up things about the track from watching the replay that aren't so obvious in-car.

In short, if the GT-R isn't working for you, try the Huracan. If the Huracan is too tricky, try the 458. If that's still too inconsistent, go back to the Merc and build from there.

I await @Sven Jurgens ' table of every car!

@Pigems , your times don't show up on my leaderboards for some reason.

LMFAO - 2.08.7...but I'm not fast.

I actually saved a video from me starting for the first time ever on St Croix in a Lancer on Monday night with a 2.25 lap and doing about 9 or 10 laps until I was up to a 2.16. It was interesting to see how it went from "just looking" to a little more speed to pushing limits. Then I saved another vid made later the same eve after I tried 5 or 6 cars, settled on the GT-R and pushed to a 2.11.117. The progression to my current 2:10:605 was clear and I was able to see the areas I was improving, what lines were working best and where I was losing. Then, like you say, I did a few races and everything I learned went out the window and I had to learn totally new lines to account for defensive driving, avoiding crashes and overtakes.

 

[Redsea666]

Race B. Interesting comparisons in Gr.3 in terms of the lap times that can be achieved and how easy it is to extract, which is key for a racing car rather than just a hot lap. My record is still only a 2:08.7 so I am by no means quick but I'd certainly advocate trying things other than the GT-R. The Huracan is fastest for me but is not the easiest to drive. The Merc '16 is predictable and benign but a bit slower. The 458 is a bit less secure than the Merc but more so than the Huracan. I can knock out consistent mid 2:09s in that with a 2:09.4 within a handful of laps of getting in it, so there's more to come there with a little bit of testing. Sub 2:09 I reckon. I saved a few replays and the comparisons are interesting. I'd also recommend people watch their own hot lap replays to see how the care behaves. You can pick up things about the track from watching the replay that aren't so obvious in-car.

In short, if the GT-R isn't working for you, try the Huracan. If the Huracan is too tricky, try the 458. If that's still too inconsistent, go back to the Merc and build from there.

I await @Sven Jurgens ' table of every car!

@Pigems , your times don't show up on my leaderboards for some reason.

I've been using the Ford GT which feels uninspired and boring. I do love the Merc- maybe that's next.

 

[Pigems]

@QC YALUM I noticed yesterday your name had a new Tag attached, did you join a new team?

 

[sturk0167]

Has any else grown to despise this little section of guardrail that bends in towards the track at St. Croix?
I've ruined some pretty good laps right there.

I finally got into the :09s with A/T, though. 👍

 

[Pigems]

Has any else grown to despise this little section of guardrail that bends in towards the track at St. Croix?
I'm ruined some pretty good laps right there.

Not that particular one, but there is one of those on the Sardegna track from last weeks Race A that I kept hitting in the Super Bee. It’s on the right just as you start to go down the hill.

 

[CurbHog]

I finally clinched a 3rd place podium at Race B! In one of the other races I met Dukebop (not sure if he is on the forum) We had a fun scrap for 5th place as he was driving the Lambo in a great looking McDonalds livery.
The last part is captured here:

 

[6BK]

Has any else grown to despise this little section of guardrail that bends in towards the track at St. Croix?
I'm ruined some pretty good laps right there.

I finally got into the :09s with A/T, though. 👍

I reckon the drivers should boycott the race for safety reasons until PD have the issue resolved. Sure look, they've already got an ambulance parked on the turn. Don't tell me they are not aware of the dangers.

 

[Dairyworker]

no ps4 time yesterday. I made a near 300km trip each way, to finally tear apart the crappy old dock that drifted onto our beach in the spring. had to do a special trip for it cause if I did it when we were there camping my dog would be an issue for sure. he is, um, hyper to say the least lol also to put the boat away and bring the motor home.

anyway got back at it for a bit this morning and am finding it hard to trim my time at sardegna. down to a 11.5xx with optimal of .237 I know what I need to do but after two weeks of heavy boats I am having a hard time with this little thing. lol

 

[250Cal]

I've been using the Ford GT which feels uninspired and boring. I do love the Merc- maybe that's next.

I've not done more than a few laps but the 458 is a smidge quicker for me.

 

[GT5Power]

60 wins I did two races today and won them both lights-to-flag. My main rival in the first race was a Maltese driver who started P3. He was held up by a Finn until lap 6, when he pitted for the undercut. The pair of them were about 4.5 seconds down on me by that point. He jumped the Finn and reduced my lead to 3.7s by the time I came out of the pits on lap 8. He was initially faster and stole the FL on lap 9, but at the end of the race I stretched out the gap, right to where it was when I started the second stint.

I came back an hour later and both of them were there again, but the Maltese guy got disconnected. The race was smooth sailing, slowly pulling away to a MoV of 5.6s (and losing the CRB to the pit wall again ). The two total race times were only .2s apart

My 1:22.980 Q time was finally knocked out of the top 10 stars shortly after the second race. I'm surprised it lasted this long, to be honest. I may contest it again towards the end of the week if I'm not too far off.

 

[Invisigoth]

I always feel safe racing with you guys.

Forgotten the havoc I wreaked at Dragon Trail huh?

lol also to put the boat away and bring the motor home.

Boats have motors? <looks at otter tail paddle>

 

[Dairyworker]

Some boats have motors. Real boats have sails, and romantic boats use paddles lol i have a 100+ year old cedar stip canoe in my garage. 80 pound dog and camping gear means we need the motor boat lol

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Has any else grown to despise this little section of guardrail that bends in towards the track at St. Croix?
I'm ruined some pretty good laps right there.

I finally got into the :09s with A/T, though. 👍

I have that problem at the bridge entry. It seems the car ahead leaves a car width space, so I attempt to overtake on the outside yet the actual bridge is just a tad bit more narrow than that car width right before going on the bridge

It is most effective against wall riding though

 

[sturk0167]

I have that problem at the bridge entry. It seems the car ahead leaves a car width space, so I attempt to overtake on the outside yet the actual bridge is just a tad bit more narrow than that car width right before going on the bridge

It is most effective against wall riding though

Good point. I've definitely left some paint on that guardrail, too.
Thankfully, the wall penalties are almost non-existent, compared to Tokyo.
I think the only penalty I've had at St. Croix so far, is for having all 4 tires in the green at turn 1.

 

[Shearzy]

Anyone getting constantly disconnected?

 

[250Cal]

Daily C win from 18th. DR B SR S at the start.



Bit clumsy with the overtake on the Italian chap at T1 for which I apologised. Thought he saw me, unsettled his car and he span. P1 and P2 then fell off in the space of 100 yards. Adios.

ETA. I can run consistent 1:24 hot lapping but 1:26 is it being a bit more conservative in the race.