"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Mistah_MCA]

You have some explaining to do Mistah

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I was temporarily hired full time at R4M.

 

[NoStopN]

If response is warranted from me it will be decisive and swift.

If I feel like someone roughed me up to get a position, I'll give as much as I got. But it seems like racing in GTS is like the NFL. The first guy gets away, but the one getting retaliation gets the penalty.

Penalties are based on DR rank. The higher your DR the higher the penalties. When I was close to A+ on N24 about every bs penalty was 4 or 5 sec no matter how tiny the contact from the car touching me before going off. In reverse, often lower DR players didn't get any penalty at all for punting me off, I would even get SR Down for getting punted to the moon. PD apparently has this notion that more experienced drivers need to be punished harder while lower ranked drivers can 'experiment' as they see fit Also shortcut penalties are more sensitive at higher DR. SR has the same effect. Lower SR means more contact is forgiven, lower penalties, etc.

If this is how PD does the penalty system, then there truly needs to be a network user boycott. An action worthy of a penalty should be penalized no matter the DR or SR. Rookies shouldn't get a pass. They won't learn good racecraft that way.

I was temporarily hired full time at R4M.

You quit that gig?

 

[Mistah_MCA]

If I feel like someone roughed me up to get a position, I'll give as much as I got. But it seems like racing in GTS is like the NFL. The first guy gets away, but the one getting retaliation gets the penalty.



If this is how PD does the penalty system, then there truly needs to be a network user boycott. An action worthy of a penalty should be penalized no matter the DR or SR. Rookies shouldn't get a pass. They won't learn good racecraft that way.



You quit that gig?

No, I was fired.

 

[NoStopN]

No, I was fired.

You had one job!

 

[Redneckchef]

I have a no qualify racer in asia region who needs a contract out on them from R4M. I would love to fulfill it but the 🤬 is too fast for me!

 

[Invisigoth]

You had one job!

Having driven with @Mistah_MCA , I suspect he was fired because his methods were far too brutal, even for R4M .......

 

[Redneckchef]

Going to have to work out a an to get into @Pigems lobby soon. Chat with you guys on here but never see anyone when I get online. Get randoms that are race specific that I see for a week or two then nothing. Although I can say I am indebted to @doblocruiser for the citroen advice. If I get a start anywhere in the top half of the field and don't :censored:it up I seem to bring home a podium. Finally really getting to grips with the car on steering angles and speed and turn in points for the tricky corners with it. Was pulling laps at my qualifying time in race until I gave up and qualified, dropping 1.3 sec.

If I am lucky the matchmaking gods will let me have another go in s friendly lobby before work tomorrow. Then it is back to learning the GTR for autopolis again.

 

[250Cal]

Reading posts above it's interesting that the perceived Ying of "I'm too good to be behind you" has a Yang of "I'm too good to be overtaken".

Your DR/SR isn't displayed on the car. I doubt many drivers care for the rating of their opponent. People treat people on merit. If anything a high rating is likely to put a target on your back. I am glad they don't display car numbers on the rear of cars as that could cause chaos.

It's very difficult to follow closely without a tap and the lack of spatial sense afforded by a game can make running side by side very challenging, too. If you're holding people up, these issues will definitely come into play buy you're just as likely to see them with closely matched cars. It's racing at the end of the day.

Some of the worst driving standards I see up and down the ranks are at the top end. At the lower end of the scale you get bad driving standards with plain old bad driving.

 

[Pelikan]

@RACECAR try using the Vette. Fuel Map 1 and shift before the rpm indicator even lights up. You won’t have to mess with the fuel map and it can no stop with this method.

 

[doblocruiser]

After being in this thread for the week I've seen many racers changing cars throughout the races. Question that roses: why don't you stick to your prefered manu even if it means you pull on the short end of the stick? I've pretty much only driven Peugs and Citroëns in all FIA's and dailies. I don't care if a car has an advantage or disadvantage. Going to another brand (which many are great) , I feel like cheating. How do you guys handle that?

I wish manu loyalty would be more of a thing in GT Sport.

 

[250Cal]

There are so many cars in the game I don't know why I'd want to restrict myself to just a few of them. I have some brand loyalty in real life but don't feel that needs to be mirrored in the game.

Sven drives everything, because Sven.

I drive something I can be consistent with and like to try different things.

Some people just go with the car that's in the top qually because they think they can replicate the skill and style of the aliens.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

After being in this thread for the week I've seen many racers changing cars throughout the races. Question that roses: why don't you stick to your prefered manu even if it means you pull on the short end of the stick? I've pretty much only driven Peugs and Citroëns in all FIA's and dailies. I don't care if a car has an advantage or disadvantage. Going to another brand (which many are great) , I feel like cheating. How do you guys handle that?

I wish manu loyalty would be more of a thing in GT Sport.

To me it's not like cheating. You signed up for the manufacturers racing, not the dailies. I see the different cars as tunes for different tracks more than different brands.
I guess it's better for the immersion if you pick a car and stick to it at all times but we all like to do well.
Then on the other hand, I rarely run the META. At my level all the cars are capable of winning so I run what I enjoy.
This week it was AMG before the reset, then Mustang. And I did very similar in both.

 

[doblocruiser]

Thanks for your input guys. The immersion I get from running the cars of the brand I really like is a lot différent than those who have a few nice cars. I feel more involved and more engaged. I have the urge to do well because I want that manu well threated. It may sound silly but I feel more responsable since I am passionate of the brand and want to see it do well.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

There are so many cars in the game I don't know why I'd want to restrict myself to just a few of them. I have some brand loyalty in real life but don't feel that needs to be mirrored in the game.

Sven drives everything, because Sven.

I drive something I can be consistent with and like to try different things.

Some people just go with the car that's in the top qually because they think they can replicate the skill and style of the aliens.

We all need to be like @Sven Jurgens .

When I was racing in my alt account (when I first started it), it was so nice to see people using whatever cars they wanted to use. In my main account, I feel like my options are limited, as trying something different will only cost me DR.

I know I shouldn't be caring so much about it, but some people care about it a lot.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Fuji short N200
Maggiore GP II gr. 3
Autopolis gr. 2

See you in the C friends.

 

[Pigems]

I just use the best tool(car) for the job, I don’t see my car in bumper cam, so it doesn’t really matter to me what car sits behind the camera, it just matters that it works.

@Redneckchef Join us anytime man, we race Fridays at 9pm EST.

 

[Invisigoth]

We all need to be like @Sven Jurgens .

When I was racing in my alt account (when I first started it), it was so nice to see people using whatever cars they wanted to use. In my main account, I feel like my options are limited, as trying something different will only cost me DR.

That's the great thing about DR/D.... we don't give a 🤬 about things like "What car is the META?", people drive whatever the 🤬 they feel like. From a personal stand point, if I had to stick to a single marque, I'd run the GTS disk through the shredder. I find the whole idea of driving the same 2 or 3 cars race after 🤬 race, week after 🤬 week, as boring as bat 🤬. I'm not a professional driver, no one is paying me to spend hour after mind numbing 🤬 hour to use their cars, so I'm gunna drive whatever the 🤬 I want!

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I just use the best tool(car) for the job, I don’t see my car in bumper cam, so it doesn’t really matter to me what car sits behind the camera, it just matters that it works.

Then why do you bother with liveries?

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Well 🤬

I agree. Us close to DR 1's drive whatever we want because it doesn't matter or help us much to be "meta."

I'm usually worse with the most popular car of the week.

 

[NoStopN]

Having driven with @Mistah_MCA , I suspect he was fired because his methods were far too brutal, even for R4M .......

I didn't think that was possible. I mean, they R4M. They are like the bad version of the A-team. Pay money, get vigilante justice.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

why don't you stick to your prefered manu even if it means you pull on the short end of the stick?

Diversifying is more interesting. I've an affinity for Alfa Romeo and use them a little more over others but I gradually branch out to other manufacturers. There was a period of time when I'd only run flavour of the week meta car but grew bored of racing a car most others are using.

I also find it more satisfying to perform well in a car that's underrated or shunned by the community.

 

[doblocruiser]

I also find it more satisfying to perform well in a car that's underrated or shunned by the community.

I like as well using the underdog car. People tend to go for the fastest rather than what they truly like. This week it was mainly Porsche, R8, Lambo's, Ferrari's and AMG's and I was very happy to see myself competing in the more 'odd' choice.

I've litterally seen 3 other Citroëns and 2 VGT's. Never more than 1 or 2 in a race.

I can see however people go to brands which are more active in circuit motorsport. That automatically increases their popularity.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

That's the great thing about DR/D.... we don't give a 🤬 about things like "What car is the META?", people drive whatever the 🤬 they feel like. From a personal stand point, if I had to stick to a single marque, I'd run the GTS disk through the shredder. I find the whole idea of driving the same 2 or 3 cars race after 🤬 race, week after 🤬 week, as boring as bat 🤬. I'm not a professional driver, no one is paying me to spend hour after mind numbing 🤬 hour to use their cars, so I'm gunna drive whatever the 🤬 I want!

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Then why do you bother with liveries?

Replays, replays, replays

 

[Pigems]

Then why do you bother with liveries?

So the people around me can have nice scenery.

 

[Tak[TEC]]

PD really do need to fix the race starts in general but especially at Spa and Suzuka, being as high as 3rd/4th place cars shouldn't be taking the hairpin while the race starts. It's kinda gotten to the point where racing at the back is just more fun, since getting a pole almost guarantees a boring race (unless you bottle it)

 

[The_Tullster]

After being in this thread for the week I've seen many racers changing cars throughout the races. Question that roses: why don't you stick to your prefered manu even if it means you pull on the short end of the stick? I've pretty much only driven Peugs and Citroëns in all FIA's and dailies. I don't care if a car has an advantage or disadvantage. Going to another brand (which many are great) , I feel like cheating. How do you guys handle that?

I wish manu loyalty would be more of a thing in GT Sport.

My favourite manufacturer doesn't build circuit race cars. Consequently I race what I can be reasonably confident of keeping on the track and not hitting or impeding other drivers.
In real life if I want to go fast on sealed surfaces, the vehicle has only two wheels. I've yet to see a simulation that even vaguely realistically models that experience. I've yet to find a rally sim I like. Thus, I race GT series (and one or two others when I have a working PC compatible wheel) in cars that feel good to drive.
For my favourite four wheel activity in RL, see my avatar picture - unsafe, underpowered and absolutely delightfully challenging to drive well . Mine was rated at 39kW and the tyres were so appalling that it would drift on wet tarmac with almost no provocation... I often wish I hadn't sold it.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

PD really do need to fix the race starts in general but especially at Spa and Suzuka, being as high as 3rd/4th place shouldn't be taking the hairpin while the race starts. It's kinda gotten to the point where racing at the back is just more fun, since getting a pole almost guarantees a boring race (unless you bottle it)

When the Nordschleife is on every one starts way back. It's more fair but there's always trouble in the corners before the start. All the cars get bunched up on the run up to the last 3 corners. Same thing would happen on Spa :/ You start way back in arcade mode, I guess PD found it too dangerous for sport mode.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

My favourite manufacturer doesn't build circuit race cars. Consequently I race what I can be reasonably confident of keeping on the track and not hitting or impeding other drivers.
In real life if I want to go fast on sealed surfaces, the vehicle has only two wheels. I've yet to see a simulation that even vaguely realistically models that experience. I've yet to find a rally sim I like. Thus, I race GT series (and one or two others when I have a working PC compatible wheel) in cars that feel good to drive.
For my favourite four wheel activity in RL, see my avatar picture - unsafe, underpowered and absolutely delightfully challenging to drive well . Mine was rated at 39kW and the tyres were so appalling that it would drift on wet tarmac with almost no provocation... I often wish I hadn't sold it.

More and more similarities. I have been riding bikes since I was 17.

 

[The_Tullster]

When the Nordschleife is on every one starts way back. It's more fair but there's always trouble in the corners before the start. All the cars get bunched up on the run up to the last 3 corners. Same thing would happen on Spa :/ You start way back in arcade mode, I guess PD found it too dangerous for sport mode.

Anyone for grid starts at these problem tracks?...... Nah, didn't think so

More and more similarities. I have been riding bikes since I was 17.

Younger (on the farm, unlicensed) for me, but on the road since 20. Mind you, I'm not the fastest around, but it's great fun.

 

[Invisigoth]

For my favourite four wheel activity in RL, see my avatar picture - unsafe, underpowered and absolutely delightfully challenging to drive well . Mine was rated at 39kW and the tyres were so appalling that it would drift on wet tarmac with almost no provocation... I often wish I hadn't sold it.

Don't forget the standing starts where you get up to 3rd gear with the wheels still spinning, the car not moving forward, and you arn't using the brakes to hold in it place !

 

[The_Tullster]

Don't forget the standing starts where you get up to 3rd gear with the wheels still spinning, the car not moving forward, and you arn't using the brakes to hold in it place !

Uphill start at a level crossing (railway crossing), slid back 5m and got 20 degrees opposite lock before the tyres bit enough to start moving forward... or 180 degree rotation at 5km/h with less than 10% throttle... sometimes it was just better to use the second gear stick and pop it in 4x4...