"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[NevilleNobody]

Well, I suppose how hard it is, depends a lot on how you're going about it.
My gas pedal is the X button. I brake with the [ ] button.
In case you don't know, that means I have to be either 0% or 100% on the brakes or throttle.
Things like trail braking, and smooth, gradual throttle inputs are out the window for me.

This isn't an excuse. I have the same option as anyone else to do it differently.
It's just the way I'm still most comfortable doing it, and it doesn't matter to me that I'll never be the fastest.
I don't think there are many people who would beat me using the same method.

I have! Hazaaaah!

 

[sturk0167]

I have! Hazaaaah!

I don't doubt it.
You know what I mean, then. 👍
I have no idea who does it the same way.
I've probably lost to plenty of X button drivers, but I think most people would quickly lose their minds if they tried it.

 

[doblocruiser]

Improved my time in the Viper at Bathurst to à 2:13:366 thanks to Watts and Tom Cruise

Drove the living daylights out of the machine in the race. Caught up to a a couple of Mégane, only to be run of track on the last corner before start/finish by Mr. Allornothing. Got back on the outside of the track where I got punted again by another Mégane. What the hell is wrong with these people

Meanwhile my DR is tanking. Maybe I'll finally be back in B by the end of the week

 

[250Cal]

Well, I suppose how hard it is, depends a lot on how you're going about it.
My gas pedal is the X button. I brake with the [ ] button.
In case you don't know, that means I have to be either 0% or 100% on the brakes or throttle.
Things like trail braking, and smooth, gradual throttle inputs are out the window for me.
It's probably the most challenging way possible to drive these cars.

This isn't an excuse. I have the same option as anyone else to do it differently.
It's just the way I'm still most comfortable doing it, and it doesn't matter to me that I'll never be the fastest.
I don't think there are many people who would beat me using the same method.

Ouch! I actually thought the buttons on the DS4 are analogue.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I don't doubt it.
I have no idea who else does it the same way.
I've probably lost to plenty of X button drivers, but I think most people would quickly lose their minds if they tried it.

To be fair you're usually a touch quicker.

i can tell who used the D-pad as their car fidgets left and right, tappa tappa tappa.

 

[sturk0167]

Ouch! I actually thought the buttons on the DS4 are analogue.

They were on the PS2 and PS3. Not sure why they went away from it.

@NevilleNobody it wasn't until March, at the Z8 race at BB that I quit using the D Pad.
The joystick worked so much better for me on that track, and I've not gone back to the D Pad since.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

To be fair you're usually a touch quicker.

i can tell who used the D-pad as their car fidgets left and right, tappa tappa tappa.

Lag does that as well, or maybe all South Americans play with d-pad

An American that I know of plays with D-pad is a lot smoother than most laggy cars...

 

[NevilleNobody]

Lag does that as well, or maybe all South Americans play with d-pad

An American that I know of plays with D-pad is a lot smoother than most laggy cars...

it's nothing like lag. On long corners you will see dpad users tap the left and right buttons, if you hold one down you understeer chronically so you see tiny little movements. I can pick it a mile away.

 

[bone_tone]

Honestly, a 2:09 is not hard to do. I mean that with the greatest of respect and in the appropriate sense. I posted a lap the other day which is 99% drama free which was a 2:09.2. I am no expert at this game. Small inputs, smoothly, minimal sliding, no armfulls of lock, and the time just comes. I've been waiting for the leaderboard reset so I haven't tried to push on.

Everybody from p194 onwards in the world rankings (myself included) would probably disagree with that view! The fact that only 193 people have achieved it suggests that it's very difficult to get a 2:09.....

I have done more laps in qualifying than in races, and cannot get below 2:13. I have watched the replays of people running full throttle from the chicane at the bottom of the hill all the way to the final turn, but cannot replicate it myself.

 

[sturk0167]

Have any of you guys from EMEA seen the lap replay of the person from Saudi Arabia that did 2:04.6 at race A?
Is it legit???

Edit: KP says he's done 1 Sport Mode race ever.

 

[250Cal]

They were on the PS2 and PS3. Not sure why they went away from it.

@NevilleNobody it wasn't until March, at the Z8 race at BB that I quit using the D Pad.
The joystick worked so much better for me on that track, and I've not gone back to the D Pad since.

OK. So, I hesitate before I post this and I also played the earlier GTs on X and [] with shift on the L2/R2.......Took me a couple of restarts to get the controls in my head again.

Spoiler

2:10.123 (5th lap - you can see the mileage on the car).

 

[Veinz]

Wheel users: what do you guys use for foot wear? I want try something different than socks.

 

[250Cal]

Everybody from p194 onwards in the world rankings (myself included) would probably disagree with that view! The fact that only 193 people have achieved it suggests that it's very difficult to get a 2:09.....

I have done more laps in qualifying than in races, and cannot get below 2:13. I have watched the replays of people running full throttle from the chicane at the bottom of the hill all the way to the final turn, but cannot replicate it myself.

Small steering inputs, smooth line. Coming out of the throttle arguably causes you more problems. I have a slight lift into the long right hander at the top of the hill. I can't get the precise steering to go through full throttle without unsettling the car.

ETA. You have got to get a good run out of the right hander onto the straight up the hill. That alone is worth a second a lap.

It's impossible not to sound like a dick in these situations. I'm genuinely trying to be helpful. Posted up a lap which includes zero witchcraft and shows lines and brake and throttle inputs. I genuinely believe people are overdriving it and pushing too hard.

 

[golfer07840]

Too much work to check the color, the thing shouldn't be on the mountain full stop

I've reported over 200 of them so far I think, not that reporting does anything. Perhaps it will put a slight uptick in the stats against meganes

First race in SR.B, 3rd place finish. These guys are very bumpy, I never got SR Down but still finished with neutral SR. No penalties from Meganes yay. Megane won of course although another F-Type had the fastest lap.

Second race in SR.B, I get bumped off in T1 and get SR Down. Then an 86 somehow manages to crash at Reid park, can't avoid, 5 sec penalty for me. Rest of the race, brazilian yellow megane dirty blocking all the way. 10th place finish, now in SR.C. Megane won.

You'll race in the SR B rooms mister and LIKE IT.

This connection stuff is interesting. Even in a relatively dense city in a plugged-in state like Connecticut, I've only had access to a fiber internet connection for a little over a year (and my 300mb/s service is very lovely...5 bars of green all the time). Before that, I relied on cable internet that was in the 15-20 mb/s range if I was lucky. It makes a huge difference.

Hard wired into the PS4 is the best way to go too. I love when I see USA racers with 1 red bar. It's like "get off the Starbucks wifi next door".

Ooh an F-Type won in SR.C, by this fellow (Meganes 2nd and 3rd)

His greeting says he has over 2,400 wins, his average SR is 38.1

Blame the match macking system there. Lower SR, the more likely you are to get into a race with less DR gaps.

I'd say that someone blew some serious coin on the North America-Asia cables, too. I'm in Northern California, and when I use my Asian account, my connection is always just as good as the Aussies/Kiwis. Never experienced any connection issues.
Anyone on the west coast of NA should feel confident about using an Asian account. 👍

I'm 50 miles west of NYC (in a direct straight line) and I always have all green. I only drop to 4 bars on the Euro account. Sometimes I drop to 3, but usually, it's 4 and there doesn't appear to be any lag when doing so.

I don't feel like going through all I need to go through to do it, but I'm curious if I'd be laggy in Asia where I am. I'd have to think so.

it's nothing like lag. On long corners you will see dpad users tap the left and right buttons, if you hold one down you understeer chronically so you see tiny little movements. I can pick it a mile away.

The constant high beams flashing is also a good indicator they are using a DS4

 

[250Cal]

Have any of you guys from EMEA seen the lap replay of the person from Saudi Arabia that did 2:04.6 at race A?
Is it legit???

Edit: KP says he's done 1 Sport Mode race ever.

Replay isn't available for me, which rings alarm bells.

2nd place has a big old cut in it (with penalty), hence my assumption of a reset.

I think the fastest legit lap is 2:06.778

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Can't escape SR.B, it still costs SR when you get hit. At a pace of +2 / +3 SR per race it takes 5 races to over come one BS penalty and over 25 races to get back to SR.S lol. It only took 3 to get to SR.B

In SR.B driving dirty is the best way to over take

He only gets 1 sec penalty for one of the times he bumps a car off and keeps the positions at the finish. Such a joke.
Meganes and GT-Rs all over my favorite track

 

[watto79]

Wheel users: what do you guys use for foot wear? I want try something different than socks.

Always socks. Barefoot doesn't work as my feet don't slide over the pedals so well, that and it's horrible when the pedals are cold

Kie wears surprisingly fluffy slippers, but I've not tried that myself.

 

[Granadier]

Wheel users: what do you guys use for foot wear? I want try something different than socks.

Socks, always. Any shoes I have are too bulky to wear cause they'd interfere with the two-foot pedal operation.

 

[250Cal]

Can't escape SR.B, it still costs SR when you get hit. At a pace of +2 / +3 SR per race it takes 5 races to over come one BS penalty and over 25 races to get back to SR.S lol. It only took 3 to get to SR.B

In SR.B driving dirty is the best way to over take

He only gets 1 sec penalty for one of the times he bumps a car off and keeps the positions at the finish. Such a joke.
Meganes and GT-Rs all over my favorite track

This is a killer. You can lose enough SR in one race that it takes a week to recover.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

This is a killer. You can lose enough SR in one race that it takes a week to recover.

Atm it will take an infinite amount of races. One SR Down from a bumper diver, bumped off and dive bombed into the wall (of course the brazilian vantage didn't get a penalty) is neutral SR. Blue B for the cars hitting me.

It's time to get my kids, then I'll see how race C goes in SR.B. I hoped there would be less meganes in the lower ranks, but it's just the same with more GT-Rs around lol. Might as well go back to racing in dirty SR.S. At least when the penalty system works there, it doesn't let people off with ineffective 1 sec nonsense.

 

[Voodoovaj]

You're missing the point It's not a "get good" discussion. It's about getting more variety of cars in the races and more people racing instead of qualifying.

In regards to the cars, balancing gets more cars on the track. Nothing else. I don't find GR$ to be particularly well balanced and I don't think has has been for a while now. GR4 at Bathurst is a play ground for the Megane because, even though it was nerfed, it's still too powerful. If there isn't a "must have" car, then people will choose what works best for them.

In regards to getting people racing more than qualifying, that's a personal choice. You, for instance, choose to not qualify, which I still find an odd choice. None the less, you enjoy it and you have your reasons. Who am I to force you to change? The cost of that choice is having to work your way through the field, which is treacherous.

If people find that they need to spend more time qualifying in order to get better positioning, that's the price you pay for wanting to start at the pointy end of the field.



The one thing that people can do to actually affect change is stop showing up to for crappy races. I would show up to GR3 at Bathurst, but not GR4. Why? Because that race is too short to make anything clean happen, which leads to chaos. Anyone notice how there are no more oval races in the dailies?



Beyond that, it's just going to be up to each individual to challenge themselves. That won't happen often because many people get stuck in their ways. Personally, I love the feeling of winning in a car I am not supposed to win with.

This is a killer. You can lose enough SR in one race that it takes a week to recover.

Yes, but it can be lots of fun getting it back . I got punted down to C (IIRC). I racked up a bunch of poles and wins

And yes, sadly they got rid of the pressure sensitive buttons for the DS4

 

[O604]

Wheel users: what do you guys use for foot wear? I want try something different than socks.

I bought a pair of fleece slipper like the ones below a while back. Wish I picked up a few extra pairs. Haven't seen them around lately. More expensive slippers have thicker soles. These are like a thick sock and have grippy dots on the bottom.

 

[250Cal]

And yes, sadly they got rid of the pressure sensitive buttons for the DS4

When watching the replays, it appears the inputs are softened (damped) somewhat.

 

[Voodoovaj]

When watching the replays, it appears the inputs are softened (damped) somewhat.

Yes, and if you look at the little red dot above the rev counter that shows the steering angle, you can see the steering dampening in action.

 

[doblocruiser]

Wheel users: what do you guys use for foot wear? I want try something different than socks.

Bare feet then

 

[Pearl Jam]

Having a rather spiffing time at Bathurst, never raced here online before and it’s been pretty much ok, although most races I’m the meat in a Megane sandwich ( or is it baguette? )

Had a great battle with this determined but very clean racer, every time in the corners I’d be catching him but on the straights I had no chance ( don’t know the names of the track parts obviously) he’d be off like a firecracker lit up his arse

it’s been a lot cleaner than I thought reading some of you guys horror stories from there...oh, it’s a great track too

 

[Pigems]

I don't doubt it.
You know what I mean, then. 👍
I have no idea who does it the same way.
I've probably lost to plenty of X button drivers, but I think most people would quickly lose their minds if they tried it.

Is there any other way to use a DS4? I was an X, Square, D-Pad guy for most of the GT’s, it was until 4 that I got a MadCatz wheel at a yard sale, and I still had to use X and Square because it didn’t come with pedals!

Wheel users: what do you guys use for foot wear? I want try something different than socks.

Go to WalMart and get some swimming shoes, they’re less than $10, thin sole, rounded heel, mesh top, they are absolutely perfect! Been using them for months and months now.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

In regards to the cars, balancing gets more cars on the track. Nothing else. I don't find GR$ to be particularly well balanced and I don't think has has been for a while now. GR4 at Bathurst is a play ground for the Megane because, even though it was nerfed, it's still too powerful. If there isn't a "must have" car, then people will choose what works best for them.

In regards to getting people racing more than qualifying, that's a personal choice. You, for instance, choose to not qualify, which I still find an odd choice. None the less, you enjoy it and you have your reasons. Who am I to force you to change? The cost of that choice is having to work your way through the field, which is treacherous.

If people find that they need to spend more time qualifying in order to get better positioning, that's the price you pay for wanting to start at the pointy end of the field.



The one thing that people can do to actually affect change is stop showing up to for crappy races. I would show up to GR3 at Bathurst, but not GR4. Why? Because that race is too short to make anything clean happen, which leads to chaos. Anyone notice how there are no more oval races in the dailies?



Beyond that, it's just going to be up to each individual to challenge themselves. That won't happen often because many people get stuck in their ways. Personally, I love the feeling of winning in a car I am not supposed to win with.




Yes, but it can be lots of fun getting it back . I got punted down to C (IIRC). I racked up a bunch of poles and wins

And yes, sadly they got rid of the pressure sensitive buttons for the DS4

I don't think people not showing up for ovals is why they haven't been on in a while. The last time BMB was on it was plenty populated, way more than certain recent races. Perhaps an admission that the penalty system can't handle bump drafting, yet PD doesn't seem to be worried at all by the trouble the Tokyo tracks cause.

3 laps is definitely way too short. But not that nor Meganes nor GT-R nor BS penalties can keep me away from my second favorite track. It only makes a podium finish from last with CRB feel that much more rewarding. I made it to second once, still a Megane in front. I could have won plenty races in SR.B if it was 4 laps, but I'll settle for the FL instead

And surprisingly or maybe not, some B/B drivers drive a lot cleaner then plenty A/S drivers out there. Side by side with A/S drivers is a bigger gamble than with B/B drivers. Unfortunately there are also plenty that can't help but bump anything that comes close, hence so difficult to get out of SR.B. Anyway it's fun to mix it up now and then instead of racing the same people over and over in SR.S.

I'm doing my bit to nerf the megane, reporting every one I see

 

[250Cal]

That's really surprising. The 4C is not good at Panorama (tracks with multiple long straights never are) but I didn't recall it being that bad.

I know it's not a race time and far from great but I did qualify with 2:14.5 in it. I haven't raced yet but I can't imagine race times would be 20 - 21s. I'll try it and see later even if I'll be left in the dust by yellow Meganes.

I like the 4C, you can really thrash it and go flat through sections which need a lift in other cars. Just hang on and steer the bugger!

 

[astrarobotica]

I can't wait for Laguna Seca. Hopefully by the time it arrives I'll finally be ready to play something other than Death Stranding again. Haven't done any races in two weeks.