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Martian Manhunter's dad from Supergirl was great as Isaiah. Poor dude got shafted by the real Uncle Sam (i.e. not Uncle Sam Wilson) as heavily as the comics version but at least he could gripe about it this time.
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I should've learned my lesson with how Marvel operates by now. I got somewhat shocked that most of the scenes from the ads came from the first two episodes (like the truck fight or the couple's therapy session), but in all honesty, I shouldn't have. 
Marvel does this a lot, after all.
Also, that moment with the cops after the duo went to that old man's house... I couldn't believe Disney and Marvel would go there, only for it to happen and for some reason, I was laughing hysterically at it.
So far, I'm enjoying the series. Can't wait to see what happens next.
Marvel does this a lot, after all.Also, that moment with the cops after the duo went to that old man's house... I couldn't believe Disney and Marvel would go there, only for it to happen and for some reason, I was laughing hysterically at it.
So far, I'm enjoying the series. Can't wait to see what happens next.
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The only reason I can think about the scene, I believe this show was to come out before WandaVision. WanadaVision is soon after End Game and FWS is months later. Would have been time appropriate, but wasn't needed at all.I should've learned my lesson with how Marvel operates by now. I got somewhat shocked that most of the scenes from the ads came from the first two episodes (like the truck fight or the couple's therapy session), but in all honesty, I shouldn't have.
Also, that moment with the cops after the duo went to that old man's house... I couldn't believe Disney and Marvel would go there, only for it to happen and for some reason, I was laughing hysterically at it.
So far, I'm enjoying the series. Can't wait to see what happens next.
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I thought that the premise of the episode where Agatha took Wanda back into her past was that she was indeed born with the powers and unknowingly used them to spontaneously protect herself and Pietro from the UXB (by manipulating probability) - which is why Agatha calls her the Scarlet Witch; she was born as a chaos magic user.
The Mind Stone simply amplified them to the point of being able to use them consciously and increasing the power she can wield - and the fact she and Pietro were able to survive the Mind Stone experiments was down to their respective mutations.
Or at least that was my understanding of it.
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I only just started this episode but "The desire to become a superhuman cannot be separated from supremacist ideals" is my favourite line in the show so far.
Do people become superheroes because they want to protect and save people or is it becuase they want to impose their will on others?
Is it ever possible for super-authoritarianism to be justified from a moral standpoint? I guess Iron Man 2's senate hearing touched upon this subject too.
New Cap exudes menace.
Do people become superheroes because they want to protect and save people or is it becuase they want to impose their will on others?
Is it ever possible for super-authoritarianism to be justified from a moral standpoint? I guess Iron Man 2's senate hearing touched upon this subject too.
New Cap exudes menace.
Why are Ayo and her chum the only people who have read the instruction manual for Bucky's arm?
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Maybe because she was the closest to him.
It stemmed from Red Skull-Hydra. Remember, the serum was made to have an army to battle Hydra. Yet, they only wound up with Steve.
Fury made the point, on the carrier, about the world is filling up, with people that can't be matched. There's also what Cap said during the Sokovia Accords debrief, about the freedom to choose where to go.
Do the people in the MCU blame Stark? Red Skull? Or as Fury said, "him"(Thor). If it wasn't for Asgard, visiting earth and hiding the tesseract, none of this would have ever happened. Maybe.
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They blame Stark the most I think. His name was on the missiles. No wonder he was so eager to sign up with Ross. Nobody blames Steve Rogers (besides maybe Zemo) though. Erskine chose well. Had there been an army who took his serum I'm not sure the QC would have been so rigorous.Do the people in the MCU blame Stark? Red Skull? Or as Fury said, "him"(Thor). If it wasn't for Asgard, visiting earth and hiding the tesseract, none of this would have ever happened. Maybe.
You could say that Yinsen saw the same altruistic streak in Tony when he sacrificed himself to cover his escape. But it can be argued that Ultron and Johannesburg add to the considerable red in his ledger.
Did Isaiah Bradley want to boss people around? Did he have a choice whether he was injected? Certainly the people running his super-Tuskegee were plenty authoritarian.
All in all there's little to smile about here. Zemo and Karli stand in opposition to the world order (as Cap himself did in his second movie) but they're just as murderous.
Unless Odin is as omniscient as he is in mythology and the comics I'm not sure he couod be blamed for the state of the world just because he broke the prime directive no matter what Fury's own one good eye tells him. Yet he oversaw plenty of warmongering in the backstory to Thor: Ragnarok.
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