Do you smoke?

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Do you smoke?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 17.7%
  • No

    Votes: 121 82.3%

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I hope there was more sarcasm there than I detected.

Nope. My favorite smell is gasoline, and my second favorite is cigarette smoke.

Maybe idiotic was a bad choice of a word, but i still stand behind my opinion. If you don't want to smoke DON'T, just stop screwing around with the people who do.

How would you like it if I started bitching about cell phones causing cancer. Making you turn it off just because i'm there, and causing the cell phone rates to sky rocket. hmm.....
 
How would you like it if I started bitching about cell phones causing cancer.

Cancer Research UK
Is it true that using a mobile phone hands-free ear piece will cause cancer?


There is currently no scientific evidence that using a mobile phone will increase your risk of developing a brain tumour or any other type of cancer.

Mobile phones are low powered radio devices that transmit and receive microwave radiation. According to the information produced by the Health Protection Agency Radiation Protection Division, "radio waves do not have sufficient energy to damage genetic material (DNA) in cells, and cannot therefore cause cancer".

The amount of radio wave energy that your body absorbs from a mobile phone can be measured. This is called Specific Absorption Rate (SAR), and this information should now be available on all mobile phones sold in the UK. The SAR of mobile phones in the UK has been within the international exposure guidelines for some years now.

Several research studies carried out in Europe and America have looked at large numbers of people using mobile phones. Most have found no link between brain tumours and mobile phones. A large UK study reported in January 2006 that they could find no link between mobile phone use and glioma. The study included information on over 2,500 people. They found no link between the amount of mobile phone use, length of time since first use, lifetime years of use or number of calls made. The study did not include any information on children using mobile phones. Over 2,500 people took part in this study. Only about 6 or 7 out of every 100 of them had used a mobile for more than 10 years.

A large Danish study has followed over 400,000 people - some of them for 21 years. In December 2006, these researchers published a paper that looked particularly at those who had been using a mobile phone for more than 10 years. They found no increased risk of brain tumour.

One thing to remember is that most of the research carried out has looked at older 'analogue' phones. Most of the phones available in the UK now (especially the newer phones) are digital. These give out less radio wave radiation than analogue phones, and so any potential risk is reduced.

There is very limited research about using a mobile phone with a hands-free set. Some research says holding the phone to your ear will expose you to less radiation than using a headset. Other research says the opposite. But, which ever is true, there is no proof that this low level radiation increases the risk of a brain tumour. There is more research underway in the UK to look into this further.

The Department of Health (DoH) has published a leaflet about using mobile phones called "Mobile phones and Health" which states that the effectiveness of hands-free sets in lowering radiation is still uncertain. The Government have also recommended that further research into the effectiveness of hands-free sets should take place. Some results from this research should be published soon.

The Government agrees that shielding devices and hands-free kits should be independently tested and that there should be clear information about the effectiveness of such devices in lowering radiation exposure. The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) have already commissioned independent SAR measurement of hands free kits and the results will be published soon. The Mobile Telecommunications and Health Research Programme Management Committee are carrying out some of this research.

Your exposure to radio waves depends on how long you are using your mobile phone. Because no one can be be absolutely sure about the possible risks, the Government recommends that mobile phones are only used for short calls.

The Government's advisory group's advice is that you use mobile phones for as short a time as possible and preferably with a hands free kit. The chairman of the Government's advisory group, Sir William Stewart, says that children should only use mobile phones in an emergency. There is no evidence that mobile phones are damaging to children either. But if mobile phone use does turn out to have health risks, children would be more at risk because

* They are young
* Their nervous systems are still developing
* Their skulls are thinner

Sir William Stewart believes that children shouldn't use mobiles regularly if they are under 16. If you are concerned, the Health Protection Agency Radiation Protection Division have some useful information on mobile phones that you may find helpful.

Remember - the most dangerous thing about mobile phones is that people use them when they are driving! You have 4 times the risk of having an accident if you are talking on the phone when driving - and hands free kits don't seem to be any safer as far as driving accidents are concerned.

And while we're there.
Cancer Research UK
Does smoking increase lung cancer risk? How many die?

Yes, yes, yes. There is an absolutely undeniable link between smoking and many different types of cancer. Tobacco is the cause of 90% of lung cancers. In 1998 nearly 35,000 people died of lung cancer in the UK. So 31,500 smokers died from lung cancer that year.

Smoking can also increase your risk of cancer of the

* Mouth
* Nose and sinuses
* Voice box (larynx)
* Foodpipe (gullet or oesophagus)
* Stomach
* Pancreas
* Bladder
* Liver
* Neck of the womb (cervix)
* Kidney
* Myeloid leukaemia

Overall, over a quarter (29%) of all cancer deaths are linked to smoking. There is a lot more information about risk of cancer and smoking on the Cancer Research UK News and Resources website.
 
What bothers me most is the people that will sit there, jump on their high moral horses and look down upon others that smoke. They bitch and moan but that's all they're doing. Do you really care about your health, or is this whole thing just an easy means to get off on feeling "right" and "justified"?

lol wow... so much like the movie Thank You For Smoking (which I thought was entertaining but a load of BS in the name of $$)... As I stated before with common sense of what smoking does, there is no feeling right and or justified... I do care about my friends and family. You give me proof of what GOOD cigarettes do and maybe I'll layoff. :rolleyes:

Are you doing anything really worthwhile like planting trees, joining a volunteer group, writing to political powers about major issues like industry emissions, buying hybrid cars, etc. or are you just sitting there pretending to care so for a quick moment you can judge someone else?

Wha? I guess see above. lol

If you don't want to smoke DON'T, just stop screwing around with the people who do.

I don't... I can't... my friends and family are proof of this and even if I did talk to them til I'm blue in the face I'd be better off shouting at a damn wall...

How would you like it if I started bitching about cell phones causing cancer. Making you turn it off just because i'm there, and causing the cell phone rates to sky rocket. hmm.....

At least there's an actual NEED for c phones? Can you say that for cigarettes? yeah.
 
Ok, ya got me.

Now i feel retarded :indiff:
 
I've never smoked but i've been thinking about trying it. I rank cigarette smoke as my second favorite smell, behind gasoline.

You should really care more for your health, I remember this thread, a real wise one. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94189

Now I am not very fussy about health, but I really see smoking as foolish, I don't look down on smokers, I am not to bothered about smokers around me as long as they are not in my face about it, let's be honest here though, Cell phones, how many people have been using cell phones for 10 years and now regret they started using them? uh there real dangerous. Smoking on the other hand, I have heard so many smokers say they regret starting, so if your going to use an annalegey at least use a good one.

As for the smell of petrol, yeah I know what you mean, I love the smell of shell station, pit lanes at race tracks, but that doesn't mean I am going to start sniffing petrol
 
DWA
lol wow... so much like the movie Thank You For Smoking (which I thought was entertaining but a load of BS in the name of $$)... As I stated before with common sense of what smoking does, there is no feeling right and or justified... I do care about my friends and family. You give me proof of what GOOD cigarettes do and maybe I'll layoff. :rolleyes:

No one is debating they are good for you, absolutely no one. I'm pretty sure all the smokers and ex-smokers in here have admitted (or will) to how much they wish they could/how hard it is to quit (including myself). So if there's no real debate, why go on a rant about how bad it is for you? No one's really arguing you, there's nothing to argue about. That's what I'm getting at. It's easy to point out the faults of others, but when they already know their faults, why do you do it?
 
I don't really get that... I mean I have faults that I know for me but there are soooo many OTHER forms of bad habits to take up that won't "kill you".

Ok, ya got me.

Now i feel retarded :indiff:

I'm not trying to make you feel that way but please... tell me why smoking is a good thing in any way? Yeah, I get that you like it but that's the addiction taking over. That's not a reason for me to stop questioning it.
 
So, you're saying that it's totally okay to be forced to move because someone who couldn't handle peer pressure back then, and wasn't strong enough to quit now, is blowing out his/her poisonous smoke in the air which you are about to breathe in settling a bunch of nasty stuff in your lungs?

Why not? If you go into a bar you should expect it to be smoky, if you walk by a designated smoking area you should expect it to be smoky. I don't know what everyone has against smokers, it's their choice to do it...not yours.
 
Why do you smoke? Tell me that. I'm not using this as a
"chance to jump on and judge someone". I'm merely stating that in this day and age, smoking is one of the most ridiculous things you could do. I'm not just judging you because I want to, but slowly killing yourself for no real reason isn't the smartest thing to do, no? Furthermore, as I said before, smoking when you have children is one of the worst things you can do in my book, whether you smoke in front of them or not.

You really don't have much of an excuse these days. With the warnings, research, evidence, etc., that we have today, which weren't around way back when, you really are stupid to start smoking. I sympathise with the older generation that did start smoking a little bit, as they didn't have the knowledge or warnings about damaging your health and those around you. But now?

I also hear you on addiction, Diego. But I know many smokers and many ex-smokers. I was born in Tasmania (which I probably shouldn't tell people :p) where a seriously high number of people smoke it seems, especially in my family (which I have a very large family). All of those ex-smokers, and some which I've known outside my family, have said that if you really want to give up smoking, you will. Be it for your children, decline in health, concern from those around you - if something triggers of the common sense in your head that it really is a stupid thing to be doing, then you will quit.

My mum tried quitting for years - cold turkey, patches, etc. She smoked for almost 20 years. She'd tried to quit more times than you can count on your hands. As a kid, I came to her one day while she was smoking and got upset. I told her I wanted her to stop smoking, because I didn't want to be without a mother. She got upset herself, ashed out her cigarette and threw the packet away. She's never picked up a cigarette since, and she said it really wasn't that hard.

If you have children, you'll probably understand this, and I hope this gets through to at least someone. If you really do want to quit, you will. Anyone here is stronger than a goddamn cigarette.

I want to repeat again, that this is not just some ploy to "get one" on the smokers and judge you at any chance. It's the same as if I knew someone who was doing heroin. As sappy as it may sound, I consider pretty much anyone who contributes to this website in any way as a friend, no matter how little I know them. I don't "look down" on smokers. I don't consider them "less" than me in any way. I don't consider anyone "less" or "more" than I am in anyway. However, I consider what you're doing to be ridiculously stupid.
 
Why? It feels good, it calms me down, it's relaxing and I just enjoy the act of doing it. Plus it feels good. I don't think it makes me cool if that's what you think.

I see it as my body and I'll do what I want with it, there are worse things I could do. I could be snorting cocaine, I could be shooting heroine, or I could be doing a number of other drugs. I like smoking, both cigars and cigarettes...mostly cigars though.
 
Why do you smoke? Tell me that. I'm not using this as a "chance to jump on and judge someone". I'm merely stating that in this day and age, smoking is one of the most ridiculous things you could do. I'm not just judging you because I want to, but slowly killing yourself for no real reason isn't the smartest thing to do, no? Furthermore, as I said before, smoking when you have children is one of the worst things you can do in my book, whether you smoke in front of them or not.

I have a smoke to calm me down, to help me feel relaxed, to step away from the busy world and just sit back and think while I have a couple of puffs. I smoke with friends as a means of "bonding" and being social, and unfortuantly because I have to or thats all I think about and I start to lose function (aka. addicted) but most of all, I smoke because I chose too.

I hope you have that attitude towards others with self inflicting conditions aswell though, or it is a personal attack on smokers. Over eaters do more damage to their bodies then a smoker does as the problems that arise from it can kill a man quicker then smoking (ie. heart attack, diabeties, etc) and studies show that if parents are over eaters, their children will most likely be too.

On the other hand though, both my parents smoke (my father smokes up to two packs a day) but my sister doesn't and never has. When she feels like she is being smoked out, she either turns the ceiling fan on, asks us to stop for a bit or leaves the room.

Theres nothing like an over weight mother with her 3 over weight kids coming out of McDonalds and giving me the stink eye and making comments about me smoking because I am having a cigarette out on the curb just outside the door while waiting for friends to come out.
 
I don't think smokers realise how rude they're being by smoking in front of non-smokers. It really is incredibly unpleasant. A friend of mine gave up smoking when she got pregnant and now feels terrible that she used to do it. She hates being around someone who's smoking - it ruins the taste of anything else you're eating/drinking and makes it uncomfortable just to breathe. But she never even considered that what she was doing would affect other people. And I know its rare, but I've definately heard of a few cases of people dying from cancer caused by passive smoking. It may be a personal choice, but it does have consequences that you're forcing onto someone else.

I think its a bit less inconsiderate to overeat in front of other people than it is to smoke. I've got nothing against someone who chooses to smoke, so long as it doesn't come anywhere near me. Both my step-dad and my Dad smoke and they both know to keep well away from me and my sister when they light up or they'll be hearing about it for alot longer than the cigarette lasts.
 
What i don't like is the people that complain about smokers being outside a building. You've already kicked them out of the building, but having smokers freeze (or sweat) their ass off isn't good enough for you?

imo, thats also pretty selfish.
 
I smoked a pack of newports daily for about 2 1/2 years. Dumbest decision I ever made was to start smoking. I haven't smoked regularly in over a year. Sadly, though, if drinking and someone around me has some I'll smoke a few if I'm drunk. I don't drink much anymore now either. Having a daughter, being in the military, and growing up kind of changed me - for the better.
 
What i don't like is the people that complain about smokers being outside a building. You've already kicked them out of the building, but having smokers freeze (or sweat) their ass off isn't good enough for you?

imo, thats also pretty selfish.

You could always, gee, I don't know, not smoke? :) If you want it that bad you'll be willing to battle the elements for it.
 
You could always, gee, I don't know, not smoke? :) If you want it that bad you'll be willing to battle the elements for it.

If it was that easy for some smokers, then yes, your response does make sense.
 
I'm on the fence about this... It's like yeah that's kinda harsh making them pay for it but then again, I'm pretty sure the only people I hear complain about this situation is smokers.
 
If it was that easy for some smokers, then yes, your response does make sense.

Your response would make sense if those people were born with an addiction to nicotine. They weren't.
 
I don't think smokers realise how rude they're being by smoking in front of non-smokers. It really is incredibly unpleasant. A friend of mine gave up smoking when she got pregnant and now feels terrible that she used to do it. She hates being around someone who's smoking - it ruins the taste of anything else you're eating/drinking and makes it uncomfortable just to breathe. But she never even considered that what she was doing would affect other people. And I know its rare, but I've definately heard of a few cases of people dying from cancer caused by passive smoking. It may be a personal choice, but it does have consequences that you're forcing onto someone else.

I don't think some people realize how whiny they come off as. Here's a simple thought; ask the smoker to move else where in a polite manner, or even put it out. I have no problem what so ever in taking my stinky ass outside if someone says "Hey, I'm sorry to be a bother but smoking really bothers me and I have a hard time being comfortable around it". Besides, I only smoke outside and away from any children or crowded places. If someone has a problem, I would expect them to say something; and I would expect a fellow smoker to have some sort of respect for the general public. It's not that we don't realize we're rude, it's that we don't feel we are because no one ever says anything about it.
 
Your response would make sense if those people were born with an addiction to nicotine. They weren't.

So what? because they choose to smoke, they shouldn't have the same rights?
 
I don't think some people realize how whiny they come off as. Here's a simple thought; ask the smoker to move else where in a polite manner, or even put it out. I have no problem what so ever in taking my stinky ass outside if someone says "Hey, I'm sorry to be a bother but smoking really bothers me and I have a hard time being comfortable around it". Besides, I only smoke outside and away from any children or crowded places. If someone has a problem, I would expect them to say something; and I would expect a fellow smoker to have some sort of respect for the general public. It's not that we don't realize we're rude, it's that we don't feel we are because no one ever says anything about it.

So now its whiny to not like cigarettes? I think its common courtesy for someone to not smoke in front of a non-smoker. I will whinge and moan just as much over a smelly fart or body odour as I will over cigarette smoke. Don't pollute my air with disgusting smells! The thing with cigarettes is they offer nothing positive to anyone involved. At least the farter feels better when they fart, and the BO-producer is probably a bit cooler. I know people claim they go and have a smoke to calm down, but its probably the time out you give yourself to actually go and have the smoke which calms you down, rather than the cigarette itself.
 
What i don't like is the people that complain about smokers being outside a building. You've already kicked them out of the building, but having smokers freeze (or sweat) their ass off isn't good enough for you?
imo, thats also pretty selfish.

Why not? They obviously don't mind using something that slowly kills them, so why should they be bothered freezing slowly to the same fate smoking causes?
 
Haha McLaren.

I smoked on and off for a while when I was a teen... also tried some other smoking substances.

Not really my thing I feel. My step mother smokes, she has tried quitting several times, rather difficult thing I can imagine. I don't have much of a problem with smokers, since I go to bars from time to time, etc. But it does get annoying after a while.

The only time I really suggest a smoker should quit is when the complain about what its done to them.
 
As a general rule, I don't usually smoke.

However, there are exceptions.

I don't smoke cigarettes, period.
I have, and on occasion do, smoke cigars.
Whenever I am presented with the oppertunity, I smoke Shisha/Maasel/Hookah. Note that this is completely legal in both the US and Canada, and has little mind altering or soothing effects. It is simply smooth, and often tasty. To anyone presented with the oppertunity, I'd reccomend that you try it.
I have not, nor do plan on smoking pot or anything else illegal - Both because I have no desire to, and because it's illegal.

While none of my immediate family smokes, I think that it's worth noting that more than half, probably closer to two thirds of my coworkers smoke cigarettes. I've learned to simply go elsewhere if I'm not in the mood to deal with it - They've got enough hassles with local bylaws about where they can't smoke, so why bother pestering them about it? All it can do is make enemies, which is not something I want to do with coworkers.
 
I tried cigarettes once or twice. I also got headache, didn't care for it. Never smoked anything else. "I always pass on grass, always"(Meet the Parents). :lol:

On smokers: Call me the biggest whiner, second hand smoke sucks. Many smokers have manners, enough of them don't, obviously.
 
I agree that it can be extremely irritating to be a non-smoker when everyone else around smokes, but it makes a huge difference where you are and how they smoke. I would go outright ballistic if I was in a pub, sitting in a table with five other guys who smoked like hell, blowing smoke here and there. Then again, I had no problem with the same guys during my time in the army, in the open air it was hardly noticable and they clearly smoked only for themselves.
 
I I would go outright ballistic if I was in a pub, sitting in a table with five other guys who smoked like hell, blowing smoke here and there. Then again, I had no problem with the same guys during my time in the army, in the open air it was hardly noticable and they clearly smoked only for themselves.
I'm like the opposite. In a pub, a bar, I would not go in there, if I couldn't handle some smoke. One of my good buddies are like you though, we can't take him anywhere. :sly: Just kidding.

Smoke becomes an issue when it's the "five other guys", who didn't smoke, but there is one smoker blowing smoke in our faces. We'd be, "you, over there!".
 
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