Do you smoke?

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Do you smoke?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 17.7%

  • No

    Votes: 121 82.3%
  • Total voters
    147
To compare an addiction to nicotine to an addiction to something like heroin is just ridiculous. And to claim its harder to give up cigarettes than it is to give up an illegal drug just proves how ignorant you are.
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In case you dind't know it, nicotine is more addictive than heroin, alcohol, or cocaine

More info on that:

http://www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/nicaddct.html
http://no-smoking.org/march01/03-28-01-2.html


I'll agree that if you start smoking now you're making a very bad decision. But the fact is that a lot of people have started recently and a whole lot continue to do so. If it were so easy to give up, why do so many people still smoke?
 
Jimmy Enslashay
People don't go to bars to smoke.
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On the contrary, beer and cigarettes go together particularly well. I know a few people who only smoke when enjoying a few beers at their local. At least, they used to. It's like strawberries and cream, but less healthy.

Jimmy Enslashay
Right. Oh, and by the way, that crack dealer down the street has some pleasures available to you, as well. Don't forget to stop by him.
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Now that's condoning illegal activities, which is stupid. However, if crack were legal, then I'd feel the same way about it as I do towards cigarettes. If that's what you want to do to get your kicks, it's fine by me, as long as you don't break the law to finance the habit. If you know the good and bad points of what you are about to do, and can make an informed decision on which side weighs more in your own priorities, then do what you want to do, and don't worry if someone somewhere thinks your decision is stupid because their priorities are different.

Jimmy Enslashay
It's not fascism. It's just something that the majority of people out there strongly dislike, and if the majority of people dislike something, you're going to hear about it.
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I read somewhere that democracy was supposed to be about protecting the rights of the minority, not persecuting them. You think that non smokers have the power because they're the majority? You're wrong. They were the minority when they started campaigning. Besides, a smoker should not have to sacrifice any rights or expect to be discriminated against because they choose to do something that's perfectly legal.

EDITED: Removed my facism reference since it was inaccurate.
 
Smoke? No not at all.

My sister used to smoke like a chimney, I hated it and swore I never would.
 
Alfaholic
On the contrary, beer and cigarettes go together particularly well. I know a few people who only smoke when enjoying a few beers at their local. At least, they used to. It's like strawberries and cream, but less healthy.
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That's correct. When my girlfriend was trying to quit that happened all the time. We would go out to a bar and after a few drinks she was dying for a cigarette. I'm glad she's through with this now.
 
My father in law once gave up smoking... he said he'd only smoke when he drank alcohol...

After a week we begged him to start smoking again, since he was drunk all the time just so he could smoke.
 
-Diego-
My father in law once gave up smoking... he said he'd only smoke when he drank alcohol...

After a week we begged him to start smoking again, since he was drunk all the time just so he could smoke.
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I must say, personally I found it much easier to stop completely than to just cut down.

I still voted yes in the poll, because if I did at some point in the future feel like lighting up again, I just would. I suppose that makes me a non-practicing smoker...
 
OpheliaMontague
I've also watched my step-dad attempt to quit smoking and the only side effects I noticed for him was a larger-than-normal stash of chocolates in the fridge.
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Atleast your step father found a "healthy" alternative.

The father of a close friend of mine had been smoking since he was 15 and was approaching his mid 50s. He realised that unless he stopped smoking he would never see his youngest son grow up, as he was only 9 at the time.

In his attempt to quit smoking he took up drinking instead. Well I say instead, but he already drank regularly but in moderation most evenings. However, thinsg started to get worse. Within 3 months of me last seeing him he had gone from a relatively healthy 50 something yr old, with a relatively bad smokers cough to an alcoholic. He managed to survive past Xmas to see him family but eventually he suffered complications due to the effects of alcohol on his body.

Despite being very anti smoking, I haven't typed this up for that matter. But it does highloight that it can be a slippery slope when quitting smoking.
 
The thing I dislike about non-smokers when they tell me to quit smoking is there inability to know the cravings a smoker will get from nicotine withdrawals.

Sure, I know the dangers from smoking (who doesn't these days) but I still continue to do it and it's my choice. People have told me "I don't understand, just don't walk into a shop and buy the next packet of smokes"... If only it were that easy. Through my stupidity as a 15 year old, I cannot just stop buying cigarettes. I literally cannot concentrate if I go 2 hours without a nicotine fix. I just get annoyed when some-one who has never experienced a nicotine craving feels they can tell to stop smoking.

I understand that people cannot tolerate second hand smoke, I and I will not spark up a ciggy without asking people around me if it's ok first. They have every right to be able to stand around and not feel uncomfortable. But don't you think there should be some double standards there?

I know most of this has been covered earlier on in the thread, but I thought I'd try to get my personal experiences into the thread.

Also, I understand that people are going to dislike me from what I just posted because they feel very differently. But please try to understand.
 
mullen_power13
The thing I dislike about non-smokers when they tell me to quit smoking is there inability to know the cravings a smoker will get from nicotine withdrawals.

Sure, I know the dangers from smoking (who doesn't these days) but I still continue to do it and it's my choice. People have told me "I don't understand, just don't walk into a shop and buy the next packet of smokes"... If only it were that easy. Through my stupidity as a 15 year old, I cannot just stop buying cigarettes. I literally cannot concentrate if I go 2 hours without a nicotine fix. I just get annoyed when some-one who has never experienced a nicotine craving feels they can tell to stop smoking.

I understand that people cannot tolerate second hand smoke, I and I will not spark up a ciggy without asking people around me if it's ok first. They have every right to be able to stand around and not feel uncomfortable. But don't you think there should be some double standards there?

I know most of this has been covered earlier on in the thread, but I thought I'd try to get my personal experiences into the thread.

Also, I understand that people are going to dislike me from what I just posted because they feel very differently. But please try to understand.
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Oh, but you can, and people have. There's all kinds of things for a nicotine-addict to stop, but the choice is your's.
 
I agree that it is possible, no doubt about it. I was just trying to say that it is not as easy as some people (people who haven't smoked) may think it is.

Just to show an example (I wasn't planning to mention this, but ah well). My father has been a heavy smoker for years, and has recently taken a turn for the worse due to smoking at the age of 54. Yet, even with this extremely bad news I can't seem to stop. By the way, I'm not looking for sympathy on the matter... just thought I would throw in another personal example.
 
-Diego-
keep in mind, some people just don't want to quit
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I know that, but sometimes, that irritates me.
I don't understand why some smokers would say, "I can't just quit" when in reality, it's not that they can't, it's that they don't want to.
 
*McLaren*
I don't understand why some smokers would say, "I can't just quit" when in reality, it's not that they can't, it's that they don't want to.
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I think its because non smokers don't understand the satisfaction you receive from having ciggerette after a meal/sex/a fair amount of time without one, amonst other things.
 
mullen_power13
I think its because non smokers don't understand the satisfaction you receive from having ciggerette after a meal/sex/a fair amount of time without one, amonst other things.
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Agreed. Try thinking what it would be like giving up something that you like and is a habit, like a midnight snack, or salt on your food, tea with your dinner, a mug of coffee in the morning. A particular TV show or soap. A favourite computer game. Sex. Whatever. It's all possible, but if it's something you enjoy regularly, thinking about giving it up is not pleasant, and it can take tremendous willpower over long periods of time to achieve. How easy is it to stick to a diet, and then how easy is it to keep the weight off once you've reached your target? Then remember that most the examples I've mentioned aren't actually addictive.

I found it easy, but that's because one day, after a week's break (I used to stop when I had a cold), I had one and just didn't enjoy it, so I decided to keep off them for a while. Two weeks later even the cravings, which had been weak and habit driven, had gone, and they haven't come back since. I am sure that for someone who still enjoys it, and is trying to give up because of the potential health issues and not because they actually want to stop smoking, it's going to be a lot harder. I must say, though, two lungfuls of air never felt as good as they do now. I think I've become addicted to oxygen..
 
mullen_power13
I think its because non smokers don't understand the satisfaction you receive from having ciggerette after a meal/sex/a fair amount of time without one, amonst other things.
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We may not know that 'satifaction', but isn't satisfaction pointless when it's harmful to your health?
 
Integra Type R
It's funny how a simple yes or no question has turned into a huge debate.
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No. Never will. Ever.

My dad smoked for 2 years about 20 years ago. He quit. My grandfather smoked when he was in the Navy. He quit 40 years ago.

My mom started when she was 24. She's 46 now and does nearly a pack a day. I absolutely hate it when she or anyone else smokes near me. I'm 14 and really, I like having young, healthy lungs.

I know about 15 people that do weed during school hours. Needless to say, they're D average students.

One of my friends used to do weed once and a while though. His girlfriend talked him out of it about a year ago, because her brother is a full-fledged stoner. He's now a really smart kid and he's a lot nicer too.

Smoking anything really seems pretty stupid to me. Which is why I almost die laughing every time i see those Truth commercials. So True.
 
Ehh... I see the truth ads more like propaganda or Micheal Moore. Yeah, they should make some one think about their actions but not force it on people like religion does.

I ought to get heat on that one :scared:
 
The Truth ads make me want to smoke more because they are so overly dumb.
 
smoke cigars. i personally hate ciggys or smoke for that matter. but cigars are far better for you than ciggys. ciggys contain URANIUM! for god's sake, smoke goat dung. or cigars. it is just cigarettes that tweek me off. and if i want uranium, ill go to russia. the have plenty of uraniums there. and remember, each ciggy cuts an average of 3 DAYS off your life.
 
*McLaren*
I don't see how people want to smoke when they show how crap from Urinal Cakes is in cigarettes. :yuck:
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I just don't like some whiny TV ad telling me what to do. Most smokers already know what they are doing is bad for their body.
 
*McLaren*
I don't see how people want to smoke when they show how crap from Urinal Cakes is in cigarettes. :yuck:
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But that's the whole thing. This happens more as you're younger. If your parents/TV/whatever, tell you NOT to do something, you're most likely going to do the opposite.

Don't speed! People go and speed... Do your homework! They go and don't do it. Don't smoke! ... people go and smoke... it's just part of the "rebelious" stage where you go against the system and try to act completely opposite of what they want of you.

Anyone agree/disagree?
 
-Diego-
But that's the whole thing. This happens more as you're younger. If your parents/TV/whatever, tell you NOT to do something, you're most likely going to do the opposite.

Don't speed! People go and speed... Do your homework! They go and don't do it. Don't smoke! ... people go and smoke... it's just part of the "rebelious" stage where you go against the system and try to act completely opposite of what they want of you.

Anyone agree/disagree?
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Couldn't have said it better myself...I agree completely.
 

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