Do you smoke?

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Do you smoke?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 17.7%

  • No

    Votes: 121 82.3%
  • Total voters
    147
haha...wow this thread really brought the true side of everyone out.

I Dont Smoke Cigg... i Hate tabacco its nasty.
NO for ciggarettes.
YES for the GREEN:sly:

i,ve smoked it since i was 14 and still do, im 20 now and it hasnt ruined my life... im Married now and if she asks me to Stop I Will, but she hasnt decause it hasnt RUINED my Life. I dont sit at home all day smokin, i have a Job, a wife, and most importantly a Great Life, and i will never let it take me from that... and if it ever comes between that or my family, i Know which one is More Important, Untill that day Comes I'm goin to Live a Happy Life, now and forever.... or untill i croak. Im not a bad person and i never will be.:cool:
 
Joey D
Mr. Diego I wish I could rep you again 👍!
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Thanks Mr. Joey...

DWA
But I don't have to have known the feeling... and is why I avoided it in the first place.
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But that's exactly why you have no frame of reference to say that people who smoke can't/shouldn't have the desire to smoke, yadda yadda yadda... I'm not flaming you, I'm just trying to prove my point.

In order to criticise something, you should at least understand it, me thinks. Of course, there are few exceptions... I can say necrophiliacs are sickos, but that doesn't mean I've tried it. However, smoking is socially acceptable, and people have done it for a long time. It's still bad for you, and the evidence nowadays is much clearer than 30-50 years ago. Still, people do it, and other people still take up the vice.

Is it stupid to smoke? Yes. Is it good to smoke? No. Does it feel good to smoke? Hell Yeah! At least when you're addicted to nicotine and get your fix through it.
 
Well, I could understand say if we were talking about a game and not knocking it before I played it but this is far from that... That's why I can't agree with you.

I'd say the same thing about motorcycles too.
 
-Diego-
If you don't know the feeling, don't assume you know it.
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What? I said it’s part of the stupid stage of life, where a soon-to-be smoker made the stupid decision not to say “no”. Do I know the feeling of being pressured into trying to take up smoking? Yes.

Non-smokers had to go through that stage of life too, we just made a different decision. So don’t pretend that when you were young you were the only person being hounded by their friends to have a smoke.

Rebelling against authority for the sake of it is stupid, and I have no sympathy for people who end up in a situation they don’t like because they did so. Whether it is failing a class because they didn’t do their homework, ending up in hospital because they were speeding, or ending up addicted to cigarettes because they smoked when they were young.

No one chooses the consequences, but you chose the action so you have to deal with the consequences and you can’t expect sympathy for that.
 
You make it sound like everyone that smokes hates doing it.
 
Joey D
You make it sound like everyone that smokes hates doing it.
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No. But there are consequences to smoking. Whether it be something as small as bad-breath, or maybe not being able to enjoy a cigarette at a club, or maybe ending up in hospital with cancer. You didn’t choose the consequences, but by continuing to smoke you have to deal with them.
 
Every smoker realises the consequences...I do and I really don't care. I could die while out driving tonight. You can't live your life not doing what you want to do because it might kill you. Everything has the potential to kill you so why not just be happy?
 
Joey D
Every smoker realises the consequences...I do and I really don't care. I could die while out driving tonight. You can't live your life not doing what you want to do because it might kill you. Everything has the potential to kill you so why not just be happy?
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Um, how can you even say that?

If I started smoking, it would begin killing me from the start.
If I started racing, then I at least I have the satisfaction of enjoying something that won't kill me as soon as I begin doing so.
 
Blake
No one chooses the consequences, but you chose the action so you have to deal with the consequences and you can’t expect sympathy for that.
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I don't think any of us are looking for sympathy.

*McLaren*
If I started racing, then I at least I have the satisfaction of enjoying something that won't kill me as soon as I begin doing so.
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But smoking does give you that enjoyment, and won't kill you straight away.
 
*McLaren*
Um, how can you even say that?

If I started smoking, it would begin killing me from the start.
If I started racing, then I at least I have the satisfaction of enjoying something that won't kill me as soon as I begin doing so.
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Easy, I do what makes me feel good and if it kills me then so be it. I could die of anything, why go through life fearing death? Just do what you want and if you end up dying then whatever. I'd rather die young and have done what I wanted.
 
Joey D
Every smoker realises the consequences...I do and I really don't care.
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Yep that's for sure... It was funny talking to my best friend the other day. He smokes and he said he wanted to "try" it and will quit when he has kids. He wants him, his wife, and his kids grow healthy. I'm not holding my breath.
 
Someone could blow a red light, hit my truck, and my spine could be injured leaving me paralyzed from the neck down or I could get a brain injury. There are a lot of things that could kill me slowly, but I'll take my chances.
 
I don't really care what it is, I hate it when people whine to me about doing it. I don't whine to people about drinking, over eating, not exercising, or anything else deemed unhealthy.
 
Joey D
Someone could blow a red light, hit my truck, and my spine could be injured leaving me paralyzed from the neck down or I could get a brain injury. There are a lot of things that could kill me slowly, but I'll take my chances.
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And yet I don't think you're getting.

Driving a car doesn't guarantee death.
Smoking cigarettes for years and years though does.
 
Smoking doesn't guarantee death or cancer. There have been people who have smoked their whole life and died of old age, or other causes
 
*McLaren*
And yet I don't think you're getting.

Driving a car doesn't guarantee death.
Smoking cigarettes for years and years though does.
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I "get" it, I don't think you "get" it though. I'm going to continue doing what I want since it is MY body, MY money, and MY health. If a law gets passed where I can not smoke in a public place I will respect the law and go outside. And I'm saying ANYTHING has a chance to kill me.

And smoking does not kill you 100% of the time, I know people who have smoked for years and aren't dead. My great grandpa smoked from the time he was 15 and he died well into his 90's of just old age. It all depends on how your body responds to smoking, some people get cancer and die, some don't.
 
Note that is says "risks" not "this will happen to you".
 
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The health effects of tobacco smoking refer to direct tobacco smoking as well as the inhalation of environmental or secondhand tobacco smoke.
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the United States' Centers for Disease Control and Prevention describes tobacco use as "the single most important preventable risk to human health in developed countries and an important cause of premature death worldwide"
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What are you trying to prove? And this is directed at anyone who questions smokers. Do you feel all high and mighty because you don't smoke?
 
I guess part of me feels it necessary to post that for common sense sake but also so I'll breath easier. Either way like I said before it's easier talking to a wall and since you are subjective one way and I am subjective the other I'll sound high and mighty. But yeah in the end it is your health and your life.
 
Joey D
Someone could blow a red light, hit my truck, and my spine could be injured leaving me paralyzed from the neck down or I could get a brain injury. There are a lot of things that could kill me slowly, but I'll take my chances.
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You'd be even more miserable when your doctor tells you that you've got lung cancer, too. Or would the inability to raise your cigarette-adorned hand to your mouth be enough trauma..?
 
:rolleyes: I might not get cancer, I might not ever have a problem. Seriously I hate people that think they have the right to tell others what to do. I don't have a problem with you not smoking so why do you have a problem with me smoking?
 
For god's sake, nobody's telling you what to do. It's turned into an opinion's-based thread, and we're all sharing opinions. I didn't say "STOP SMOKING RIGHT NOW", nor did anyone else as far as I can tell.
GEETOWN_DRIFTER
haha...wow this thread really brought the true side of everyone out.
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Not necessarily. It's just a (fairly heated) debate about a particular topic that some people on here feel strongly about. We can enter another thread and go back to posting as normal and get along just fine. When you feel strongly about a particular subject, you tend to deviate a tad from how you normally are. But anyway..
Joey D
Easy, I do what makes me feel good and if it kills me then so be it. I could die of anything, why go through life fearing death? Just do what you want and if you end up dying then whatever. I'd rather die young and have done what I wanted.
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If your friend started cutting their wrists, claiming they do it to feel good and they don't care if they die, would you be upset? I know I would (I've also had plenty of experience with friends doing this), and if you had any sort of heart or caring for your friends, you would, too. Sure, it's a more immediate impact on their life, but it's threatening their life and, even though most people can't understand how it feels on their friend's side of the fence, you're immediate reaction is to want them to stop. Sure, most of us are also probably not that close as friends, but we do have a pretty tight-knit community here and if someone was cutting their wrists to feel good from this forum, I'm sure we'd all be there to offer them advice and want them to stop.

So understand that nobody is "telling" you what to do, and "telling" you to stop smoking and trying to control your life, we're simply worried about the consequences of what you're doing and we're just offering advice. From most of the non-smokers here involved in this argument, this probably stems from losing people close to you, within your family, from cancer related heavily to smoking. I've lost plenty of family and relatives to smoking, and I'm sure other people here have lost someone they cared about, too. When you lose someone close to you to something, especially multiple relatives and family, you start to resent what they were doing and try to help others that are doing the same thing (in most cases).

I also don't want this to get any more heated as a debate.

I don't like to give up at all, but I'm at an end to this argument. Both sides are hitting their heads against a brick wall. It's clearly obvious that this is going nowhere (like most large debates here it seems :p), and no matter how much you give to the argument it gets nothing in return.

I call this stalemate.
 
Jimmy Enslashay
For god's sake, nobody's telling you what to do. It's turned into an opinion's-based thread, and we're all sharing opinions. I didn't say "STOP SMOKING RIGHT NOW", nor did anyone else as far as I can tell.
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So telling me if I continue to smoke I'm going to have cancer or I might just be so traumatized because I will have the....

OpheliaMontague
inability to raise your cigarette-adorned hand to your mouth
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..is more or less in my book telling me what to do. It's stuff like that I hate.

Jimmy Enslashay
If your friend started cutting their wrists, claiming they do it to feel good and they don't care if they die, would you be upset?
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Yes I'd be upset, but I'm not going to tell my friends what to do. If that's the way they want to live who am I to say they shouldn't? Only you can make the choices about yourself, only you are in control of yourself.

Jimmy Enslashay
So understand that nobody is "telling" you what to do, and "telling" you to stop smoking and trying to control your life, we're simply worried about the consequences of what you're doing and we're just offering advice.
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The only advice I've ever asked for from this forum is all automotive related. While I do like it here and the people are great I would never ask for advice on something that's an important decision...such as the choice to quite smoking or not.

Jimmy Enslashay
From most of the non-smokers here involved in this argument, this probably stems from losing people close to you, within your family, from cancer related heavily to smoking. I've lost plenty of family and relatives to smoking, and I'm sure other people here have lost someone they cared about, too. When you lose someone close to you to something, especially multiple relatives and family, you start to resent what they were doing and try to help others that are doing the same thing (in most cases).
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I've lost a grandma to cancer some years ago. We were close and yes it hurt me, but she made the choice to smoke and she suffered the consequences. If the same thing happens to me then so be it. I don't resent what she did nor did I even hate it, it was part of who she was.

I think I haven't really made myself clear, I'm not a chain smoker. At most I smoke a pack a week or if I'm stressed out or going out a lot, two packs. Yes I still consider it smoking because it's not, not smoking. I know people classify smoking as all different things, I know some people that only smoke when they are drunk, yet they consider themselves non-smokers.
 

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