Do you smoke?

[McLaren]

Yes I'd be upset, but I'm not going to tell my friends what to do. If that's the way they want to live who am I to say they shouldn't? Only you can make the choices about yourself, only you are in control of yourself.
of who she was.

So, if you have a friend who likes running across 6 lanes of highway, you'd just let him do it b/c he likes it even though he'll end up dead?

 

[Joey D]

So, if you have a friend who likes running across 6 lanes of highway, you'd just let him do it b/c he likes it even though he'll end up dead?

Just because I don't agree with what someone does, doesn't mean it's any of my business in how they control their life. I hate it when people try to control me so why would I do it to someone else? That would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it?

If the person dies or gets injured while doing something stupid, then they should have known the consequences and they should have been prepared to accept them.

 

[SimRaceDriver]

I smoked occasionally from ages 20 to 22...met my now 'ex' and started smoking a 1/2 pack or so on a regular basis for almost 10 years. Quit back in 02' for three (3) months when I returned to California after spending a year up near Seattle, WA.

However, after I found out my 'ex' was cheating on me, I started back up because of the stress....Got up to a pack a day for over 3 years...slowly getting back down to 1/2 pack a day (if that now really) and will try once again to quit (For good) on my birthday...9/6....I'm now 37..going on 38.

When I do smoke, and I'm around 'non-smokers', I do go out of my way to make sure that I'm as far away from them as possible, however I do know that when I return, I'll still 'smell' like smoke....

As for the '420'...I was doing that on a somewhat regular pattern while dating my last girlfriend...(and we dated for almost 4 years, so that tells you about how long I smoked.....) but now that we've broken up (For other reasons) over 2 months ago, I've not had the desire to smoke the green stuff..only wanna now smoke the 'green hell'...LOL!

Side Note: Everyone talks about how bad smoking is..but for those of you of 'legal age', I bet for every one who won't take a 'puff' of smoke, you WOULD turn around and 'bang' a chick without wearing a condom and risk getting aids and/or an 'incurable STD'....But then again, it all falls back onto the old saying...

"It's my body and I'll do what I want!"...

As for the level of 'addiction' that smokers have when trying to quit...is it as bad as those on other, more 'serious' additions? Not as bad...no...but still an 'addiction' nonetheless. So, don't try and 'prioritize' what addictions should be deemed 'easy to quit', because that'll never happen.

Trying to tell a smoker to 'just quit' is like telling an alcoholic to just 'quit drinking'...ain't that easy! Will both kill you eventually?

Ummm....YES!

Will they both kill you right away...?

No!

So, there are 'different strokes for different folks'...get used to it...because I don't see anything changing any time soon! ;-)


PS: After voting, I see that there's a 5-to-1 percent between 'non-smokers' and 'smokers'...for some reason, I was under the impression that # would be higher...? Interesting...

 

[Diego440]

PS: After voting, I see that there's a 5-to-1 percent between 'non-smokers' and 'smokers'...for some reason, I was under the impression that # would be higher...? Interesting...

Keep in mind that most users or people who voted are under 25, and in this day and age, less people under 25 do smoke. Other than the fact that people who used to smoke and have quit (myself included) may have voted NO.

Just as a closing argument. I smoked for 12 years, and quit 4 years ago. Smoking was great, the feeling was awesome, I was used to smoking. It felt good to have a cigarette in my hand and puffing around.

I quit because personally, iit was destroying me. If I went up a flight of stairs, I had to rest for no less than 10 minutes; if I ever ran (rarely), it would come to a point that my body needed more oxygen than I was breathing in (i.e. no matter how fast I breathed, I couldn't maye up for the depleted energy/oxygen)... to be honest, I was very scared.

Again, that's a personal case. My wife's been smoking for about 15 years and the effects are much less on her. Since I quit smoking she smokes less, but then again, I used to smoke a lot! Not so much in quanitity, but in quality; I used to drag for about 3-4 seconds, hold the smoke in for about 10 seconds, and blow out very little...

And even now, after 4 years, I hate it when people come up with every health risk and associate it with smoking. If a study came out that said smoking will make you grow 20 toes on each foot, people would just nod their heads and say "Yeah, that makes sense". I agree that smoking is bad for you and that there are many health risks associated with smoking, but again, smoking is not lethal in the short run. You start feeling the effects maybe 1-2 years down the road after being a heavy smoker.

All those stories of how a cigarrete takes 12 minutes off your life are conjectures, based on one situation that isn't typical. What is true is that if you're a smoker you're more likely to contract some diseases than someone who isn't a smoker. But if your body is predisposed to getting a certain disease, it makes little difference if you're a smoker or not.

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I don't know. Personally, I think Billy Martin said it best when he said, "Hey! I can drive!" Because we tried to be nice to you non-smokers. We tried. Okay? You wanted your own sections in the restaurants. We gave you that. But that wasn't enough for you. Then you wanted the airplanes. We gave you the whole God damn plane! You happy now? You own the freakin' plane! I'd like an explanation about that one folks because I will guarantee you if the plane is going down, the first announcement you're gonna hear is, "Folks, this is your Captain speaking. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em."

Yeah, we tried to be nice to you non-smokers. We tried. But you just badger us, you know? You won't leave us alone! You got all your little speeches you're always giving to us. All these little facts that you dig out of a newspaper or pamphlet and you store that little nugget in your little head, and we light up and you spew 'em out at us, don't ya? I love these little facts. "Well you know. Smoking takes ten years off your life." Well it's the ten worst years, isn't it? It's the ones at the end! It's the wheelchair kidney dialysis years. You can have those years! We don't want 'em, alright!? And I guarantee if I'm still alive, I'll be smoking then. I'll be in my wheelchair, with my adult diapers on and my twenty-five year old non-smoking born again christian son behind me. I'll be going, "Hey! Make sure you wipe this time. I was itching all week for Christ's sake! And get me some more wippets. I'm almost out! Come on!"

Because you're always telling us, "You know, ever cigarette takes six minutes off your life. If you quit now you can live an extra ten years. If you quit now, you can live an extra twenty years." Hey, I got two words for you, ok. Jim Fix. Remember Jim Fix? The big famous jogging guy? Jogged fifteen miles a day. Did a jogging book. Did a jogging video. Dropped out of a heart attack when? When he was freaking jogging, that's when! What do you wanna bet it was two smokers who found the body the next morning and went, "Hey! That's Jim Fix, isn't it?" "Wow, what a tragedy. Come on, lets go buy some buds."

It's always the yogurt sprout eating ones who get run over buy a bus driven by a guy who smokes three and a half packs a day. "Sorry officer, I didn't see him. I was too busy smoking!"

--Dennis Leary​

 

[Tommi]

All im going to say is I never have and never will

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

To compare an addiction to nicotine to an addiction to something like heroin is just ridiculous. And to claim its harder to give up cigarettes than it is to give up an illegal drug just proves how ignorant you are. Perhaps I'm mis-interpreting what you've said...

Actually, comparing the two is ridiculous, because they are the same thing. Both is a physical and mental addiction to a drug and to claim that they are different shows how ignorant you are. Being an illegal narcotic means nothing in the world of addiction, an addiction to a drug is an addiction whether it is caffeine, heroin, nicotine or crack, and you're going to do it whether it is illegal or not. To believe that just because a drug is illegal is most countries it is more addictive and harder to quit then a drug that isn't just shows how how little you know about the world of addiction.

...but I've had first hand experience with heroin addicts and I know that the pain they go through when they have to go without is absolutely nothing compared to the cravings of a smoker! I've never been addicted to a drug, but I've had to look after someone who has been and its not easy. I've also watched my step-dad attempt to quit smoking and the only side effects I noticed for him was a larger-than-normal stash of chocolates in the fridge. Smoking is pointless and disgusting and you're never going to convince me otherwise. Its obvious you're a fan and I'm not going to convince you otherwise, but don't you dare go and exaggerate how hard it is to stop by comparing it to something you clearly know nothing about.

You want to know about first hand experiences? I was addicted to cocaine/uppers for almost 6 years, which doesn't include the years of recreational drug use I did before hand when I consider myself only a "pot head" or "stoner on the weekends". I wouldn't be happy without atleast something in my pocket, and would stay awake till 8am looking for anything that would get me "up". After watching my friends die, almost killing myself numerous times, losing touch with my family and putting myself into debt, it finally gave me a wake up call and I realized I need to sober up and change my life. To give up was hard and I basically had to hide in my room for a year, staying away from "friends" that would allow me to slip again and basically not going anywhere that drugs might show up. I went through tough cravings for months, had headaches, odd sleeping patterns, although, it was nice to sleep again (I once went on a 7 day binge that included everything from meth to coke to xtc while still going to work 5 of those days). So to object to your previous statement, I clearly have more knowledge in this matter.

 

[V1P3R]

So... I guess Doing what you want and addiction could be used interchangeably?

 

[Joey D]

Doesn't everyone have an addition of some kind? I mean we have people that spend hours on GTP every day. Granted some additions are harder to break then others.

 

[V1P3R]

Again... is GTP killing you? And oh, I'm so sure SRV2LOW4ME was "enjoying" what he wanted to do and not being controlled by all sorts of drugs.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

So... I guess Doing what you want and addiction could be used interchangeably?

To a point, yes. You only want to do it because you are addicted, and although you may like or liked the experience, the may reason you do it, is because your body thinks it needs it. Personally, I spent almost 2 years telling myself "I gotta stop, I don't want to do this anymore" yet I still picked up the phone as soon as the "hangover" went away. Shortly after I "quit" a friend came over to where I was with something, and although I didn't want to do it, I still ended up buying some. I didn't want to do it, and actually didn't thank god, but I just couldn't stop myself from pulling out my wallet as soon as I saw it.

Again... is GTP killing you? And oh, I'm so sure SRV2LOW4ME was "enjoying" what he wanted to do and not being controlled by all sorts of drugs.

Actually, no. It wasn't the same anymore, I no longer got the "high" everyone enjoys from doing it, it basically only made me feel happy and able to finally do something and go out, as I did nothing but sit on the phone or driving around looking for something without it.

Being addicted to something like GTP may not kill you, but for those who are tying to stop visiting the site, they may find it hard to function (ie. do homework) as they are constantly wondering whats been posted, thinking of some excuse to post a new thread (ie. posting some video they found on youtube) or wondering if someone from the site is online. Although it isn't an addiction to a chemical, it is a psychological addiction, and depending on the level of addiction, it can be quite difficult to stop.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I just smoked a turkey. Hickory wood chunks for 9.5 hours. Boy, that was one juicy bird (I brined it for 10 hours before smoking). The rest of the meal consisted of BBQued corn on the cob and potato salad. Chocolate mousse for dessert.

I also smoked some trout after the turkey was done.

Does this still count?

 

[Barracuda]

Being addicted to something like GTP may not kill you, but for those who are tying to stop visiting the site, they may find it hard to function (ie. do homework) as they are constantly wondering whats been posted, thinking of some excuse to post a new thread (ie. posting some video they found on youtube) or wondering if someone from the site is online. Although it isn't an addiction to a chemical, it is a psychological addiction, and depending on the level of addiction, it can be quite difficult to stop.

Exactly. I find it hard to concentrate on anything for school due to GTP. I've always been the kind of person to get everything done right away, but now I find myself procrastinating and saying "I'll have time to do it in the morning or in class". Even going somewhere for a short period of time takes my mind of everything else and puts it on GTP

 

[exigeracer]

I just don't like some whiny TV ad telling me what to do.

All TV ads are doing that.

But that's the whole thing. This happens more as you're younger. If your parents/TV/whatever, tell you NOT to do something, you're most likely going to do the opposite.

Don't speed! People go and speed... Do your homework! They go and don't do it. Don't smoke! ... people go and smoke... it's just part of the "rebelious" stage where you go against the system and try to act completely opposite of what they want of you.

Anyone agree/disagree?

Disagree. Your point completely contradicts what mainstream advertising was created to do. How many ads do you see saying "do NOT buy our product"? If the effect you described actually happens in the subconcious mind of the majority of the TV viewing population, I'm sure there are psychologists that would have found this out long ago and we would be seeing adverts telling you not to buy the advertised product or service. I can see how the reverse-psychology effect could work if used very cleverly, but it's surely been used enough to not really work so well anymore. Either way, there are far more effective ways to sell things anyways.

And the turth campaigns have always been scare tactics, on the tube, print, public, radio or internet. They're all the same, and they happen to work more than you imagine. Many countries impose similar photos and catchphrases to be printed directly on cigarette packs in an effort to discourage smokers by showing them what cancer looks like, for example. And before you say it doesn't work because you've seen it and it didn't scare you, it does work. Cigarette pack "sleeves" began appearing next to lighters on convenience store counters imediately after such laws were imposed, and the sleeves still sell today.

Cigarettes can kill you. If you chose to ignore people who care about you, then that's fine. Maybe it's not worth helping you out anyways.

 

[V1P3R]

I'm really starting to feel like I'm repeating the same thing over and over so I'm quiting this thread... (no pun intended)

Cigarettes can kill you. If you chose to ignore people who care about you, then that's fine. Maybe it's not worth helping you out anyways.

I guess this is my bottom line and it's a ****ed up one because I care for my family and friends. 👎

 

[McLaren]

Just because I don't agree with what someone does, doesn't mean it's any of my business in how they control their life. I hate it when people try to control me so why would I do it to someone else? That would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it?

If the person dies or gets injured while doing something stupid, then they should have known the consequences and they should have been prepared to accept them.

So, I can take this as way of you saying, "No, I would never stop my friend if he wanted to run across 6 lanes of traffic"?

 

[kikie]

I don't and I never will. I'm even not a passive smoker. The only thing I have to do is avoiding public places like pubs etc...

The air is toxic enough so I don't need cigarettes.

 

[OpheliaMontague]

Actually, comparing the two is ridiculous, because they are the same thing. Both is a physical and mental addiction to a drug and to claim that they are different shows how ignorant you are. Being an illegal narcotic means nothing in the world of addiction, an addiction to a drug is an addiction whether it is caffeine, heroin, nicotine or crack, and you're going to do it whether it is illegal or not. To believe that just because a drug is illegal is most countries it is more addictive and harder to quit then a drug that isn't just shows how how little you know about the world of addiction.

You want to know about first hand experiences? I was addicted to cocaine/uppers for almost 6 years, which doesn't include the years of recreational drug use I did before hand when I consider myself only a "pot head" or "stoner on the weekends". I wouldn't be happy without atleast something in my pocket, and would stay awake till 8am looking for anything that would get me "up". After watching my friends die, almost killing myself numerous times, losing touch with my family and putting myself into debt, it finally gave me a wake up call and I realized I need to sober up and change my life. To give up was hard and I basically had to hide in my room for a year, staying away from "friends" that would allow me to slip again and basically not going anywhere that drugs might show up. I went through tough cravings for months, had headaches, odd sleeping patterns, although, it was nice to sleep again (I once went on a 7 day binge that included everything from meth to coke to xtc while still going to work 5 of those days). So to object to your previous statement, I clearly have more knowledge in this matter.

I'm not sure that actually counters anything I said..

I got fired up because you claimed that giving up cigarettes is harder than giving up something like heroin. Its the withdrawal symptoms that make you feel like you need to do the drug again, compare those and you'll realise why I say that they're different:

Nicotine withdrawal is a term used to describe when a person, who is nicotine dependent, suddenly stops smoking cigarettes or significantly reduces their nicotine intake. This can lead to the person becoming irritable; craving cigarettes and suffering from intense headaches. Persons who have smoked a higher number of cigarettes or for a longer period are more likely to experience these symptoms, although almost all people who try to ‘kick the habit’ suffer some form of withdrawal symptoms from the drug.

Compared to..

The withdrawal syndrome from heroin may begin starting from within 6 to 24 hours of discontinuation of sustained use of the drug; however, this time frame can fluctuate with the degree of tolerance as well as the amount of the last consumed dose. Symptoms may include: sweating, malaise, anxiety, depression, persistent and intense penile erection in males (priapism), extra sensitivity of the genitals in females, general feeling of heaviness, cramp-like pains in the limbs, pandiculation and lacrimation, sleep difficulties (insomnia), cold sweats, chills, severe muscle and bone aches not precipitated by any physical trauma; nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, goose bumps, cramps, and fever.[28][29] Many users also complain of a painful condition, the so-called "itchy blood", which often results in compulsive scratching that causes bruises and sometimes ruptures the skin, leaving scabs. Abrupt termination of heroin use causes muscle spasms in the legs of the user (restless leg syndrome). Users taking the "cold turkey" approach (withdrawal without using symptom-reducing or counteractive drugs), or induced withdrawal with opiate antagonist drugs, are more likely to experience the negative effects of withdrawal in a more pronounced manner.

You've been the user, so you know what it feels like to crave the drugs. I've been the one who's had to look after a user. I've had to watch someone I love go through absolute hell, and for what? I've never heard of a cigarette smoker resorting to stealing and prostitution just to get their fix. Or being arrested for screaming in the streets.

I don't care if you die, I really don't. But I'm sure there are people who do. Just like I care about the drug users (one in particular) in my family, and what happens to them. It's very selfish to say 'its my body, I'll do what I like with it and if I die then thats my problem', because its not just your problem. There are lots of people who will be affected if you kick the bucket. Illegal drugs are illegal for a reason, and laws do stop anyone who cares about their future from using them.

Anywho, I'm very much over this thread. Smoking makes you smelly and as far as I'm concerned it's for bogans, so I don't let people do it near me. That's my choice, just like it's someone else's choice to smoke.

 

[Diego440]

Your point completely contradicts what mainstream advertising was created to do. How many ads do you see saying "do NOT buy our product"?

How many ads have you seen saying "Buy our product?" None. Advertising nowadays doesn't sell the product, it sell the feeling, the situation and the status. "If you buy our product, women will like you. Do you want to be liked by women, then you know what you have to do".

If the effect you described actually happens in the subconcious mind of the majority of the TV viewing population, I'm sure there are psychologists that would have found this out long ago and we would be seeing adverts telling you not to buy the advertised product or service. I can see how the reverse-psychology effect could work if used very cleverly, but it's surely been used enough to not really work so well anymore. Either way, there are far more effective ways to sell things anyways.

Ever seen really cheesy ads that say "Be cool, stay in school"? Do they really make you want to stay in school?

And the turth campaigns have always been scare tactics, on the tube, print, public, radio or internet. They're all the same, and they happen to work more than you imagine.

It's called shockvertising. It's effective, but it works more to make a brand look bad than to make the public change their minds.

Many countries impose similar photos and catchphrases to be printed directly on cigarette packs in an effort to discourage smokers by showing them what cancer looks like, for example. And before you say it doesn't work because you've seen it and it didn't scare you, it does work.

I'm not nitpicking everything you say, but answer me this. Do you think the problem is that cigarette smokers don't know this? Do you think the smokers are going to read the warning and say "Oh crap, these things are bad for you? I thought they had vitamin C!"

Doesn't matter how big the warnings are. You could have cigarettes that were called the warnings. You could have cigarrets that come in a black pack, with a skull and a cross bone on the front, called "tumors" and smokers would be lined up around the block going, "I can't wait to get my hands on these things!

Doesn't matter how big the warnings are or how much they cost. Keep raising the prices, people will break into houses to get the cigarettes.

Trust me on this, I've been working in advertising for the last ten years. I've marketed cigarettes for three years and I know the target.

 

[V1P3R]

Doesn't matter how big the warnings are or how much they cost. Keep raising the prices, people will break into houses to get the cigarettes.

Trust me on this, I've been working in advertising for the last ten years. I've marketed cigarettes for three years and I know the target.

You and the tobacco industry also count on their addiction to cigarettes too...

 

[Diego440]

You and the tobacco industry also count on their addiction to cigarettes too...

Think about it... if a product with all the hazards and chemicals included in them like cigarettes were to be launched today, do you think it'd be allowed?

 

[V1P3R]

Spare me... You, I, and everyone else know even though it's not spelled out it's the only reason they are around. WTH do you think the lobbist and campaign contributors are there for? There health?

 

[Barracuda]

Mr -Diego-, i wish i could +rep you.

Dennis Leary is awesome

 

[Diego440]

Dennis Leary is awesome

You can't imagine the hell I'm going through with the swear filter

On a side note, Dennis Leary quit smoking as part of a strong campaign... he used to be one of the biggest defenders of smokers (unofficially, of course).

 

[Alfaholic]

..It's very selfish to say 'its my body, I'll do what I like with it and if I die then thats my problem', because its not just your problem. There are lots of people who will be affected if you kick the bucket.

It's at least as selfish to say to someone that they can't do whatever they want with their own life because if they die you'll be unhappy.

And the turth campaigns have always been scare tactics, on the tube, print, public, radio or internet. They're all the same, and they happen to work more than you imagine.

On the evidence of this thread, I'd venture that they seem to work more on non smokers than smokers.

You could have cigarrets that come in a black pack, with a skull and a cross bone on the front, called "tumors" and smokers would be lined up around the block going, "I can't wait to get my hands on these things!

They did that years ago in SA. Someone released a brand of cigarettes, in a black box, with a skull and crossbones, but the brand name was "Death". Dunno how successful they were commercially but every smoker I knew bought a pack. Even I thought they were cool, and that was years before I started.

 

[Sureboss]

Think about it... if a product with all the hazards and chemicals included in them like cigarettes were to be launched today, do you think it'd be allowed?

Not on your nelly. It's a massive financial gain though. We got something like £8 Billion of taxes from cigarettes last year, or some ridiculous sum like that.

 

[Diego440]

They did that years ago in SA. Someone released a brand of cigarettes, in a black box, with a skull and crossbones, but the brand name was "Death". Dunno how successful they were commercially but every smoker I knew bought a pack. Even I thought they were cool, and that was years before I started.

Wasn't that in some Pantera home video?

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

I'm not sure that actually counters anything I said..

It counters it by saying that they are the same thing (where as you said they were different) as they are both addictions to a highly addictive chemical/drug.

I got fired up because you claimed that giving up cigarettes is harder than giving up something like heroin. Its the withdrawal symptoms that make you feel like you need to do the drug again, compare those and you'll realise why I say that they're different.

Just because they have different withdrawl symptoms doesn't mean one is easier to kick then the other. The major difference is with heroin, you don't see people doing it everywhere you go, you aren't offered a free poke every time you walk outside with another user, you don't see balloons of heroin sitting behind the counter in every store calling out your name, but with smoking, you do. Its easier to have enough will power to quit something when it isn't in your face everywhere you go (hence why I forced myself to stop going out in order to break my past addiction) but when its always around you, tempting you, its hard to say no.

I've never heard of a cigarette smoker resorting to stealing and prostitution just to get their fix.

Really? You've never heard of a corner store being robbed, a cigarette truck being stolen, houses being robbed, people being jumped on the streets?! In most major cities (amoung street youth) and jails, cigarettes are like money and something I've seen people being attacked for.

Illegal drugs are illegal for a reason, and laws do stop anyone who cares about their future from using them.

You mean they try to stop them from using them. Unfortuantly, the streets are filled with people willing to sell you drugs. Illegal or not, people do them, and unfortuantly, they're easy to find.

I agree with you about smoking making you smell bad, and even look nasty (yellow teeth and fingers are yummy - not) and to be honest, I tell myself everyday that I should quit.

I'm not against non-smokers, and I'm not on the smokers side, I just know how hard the smokers have it and how its become a fad for non-smokers to push their "its easy to quit smoking, so do it or die", "your disgusting with a disgusting habit" and "this is my air, stop polluting it" attitude on them when there are other habits and actions being taken with people that cause alot more damage to themselves and others out there.

 

[Joey D]

All TV ads are doing that.

I hate all TV ads...actually I'm not really even a fan of TV, but that's another debate in another thread.

It's very selfish to say 'its my body, I'll do what I like with it and if I die then thats my problem', because its not just your problem. There are lots of people who will be affected if you kick the bucket.

So I should think of everyone else and never consider mt own personal feelings? That just means everyone else is selfish. Do I take the consideration of others while I'm smoking? Yes I do. I won't smoke in the house because my mom has asked me not to, I won't smoke around my grandparents because my grandma has a breathing problem, and so on. But saying it's my body and I'll do what I want isn't selfish...it's acting how you are supposed to act. Only you have control over what you do.

It's at least as selfish to say to someone that they can't do whatever they want with their own life because if they die you'll be unhappy.

I enjoyed this post so much I'm going to give +rep and QFT it.

So, I can take this as way of you saying, "No, I would never stop my friend if he wanted to run across 6 lanes of traffic"?

Yes you can. I may think my friend is an idiot for doing it and I'd probably even let him know that he was an idiot....but I would never tell him not to do it because I don't have the right.

 

[Blake]

I'd probably even let him know that he was an idiot....but I would never tell him not to do it because I don't have the right.

What’s the difference between you telling him that he’s an idiot form running across traffic and us telling you that you’re an idiot for smoking?

 

[Joey D]

You can call me an idiot for smoking, just don't tell me I need to stop.

Look I'll even do it myself...

I'm an idiot for smoking.