OK.. ( this is more aimed at long time GT enthusiasts )
Probably going to be locked, but I think this is a very valid discussion.
Now we have our long awaited Track & Car list are you still going to give Sony & PD £150 ( or country equivilant ) for the limited edition Collectors and Signature Editions.
I personally have pre-orderd a signature edition with GAME UK, and have been looking very much forward to this day. ( although this will change by the end of my post )
However, in the last few days thankfully video's and information have been leaked and given us a preview of what to expect. And I must admit I am very greatfull to the person(s) for submitting this information as it has shown me that GT5 is perhaps not the " BIG LEAP " from GT4 that maybe should have been.
Not only is it quite hard to see where the last "FIVE" years development time have gone, ( yes i did put five like that because its a very large amount of time ). But it is also very dissapointing to see that so much of the game has been leftout.
Standard car modding
Many of the original tracks
Lack of cars from recent years
Weather on all tracks
Night Day on all tracks
( before I go any further I would like to state I fully understandwhat goes into making cars and tracks for games , and I do have a very good understanding of the time and effort needed , just incase anyone wants to argue I dont know what I am on about )
I am to say the least very dissapointed to see the pathetic track list that has been released with this game, some of you will argue it's not pathietic, those of you that are old school GT fans will get my point.
There are countless tracks from GT's of old that would have required minimal updating to be included in GT5 , and a small amount of time and man power considerng the big picture of 5 years production and IMO are part of the essence of GT.
Not being able to change the wheels on standard cars is just ridiculous, it was an option in GT4 , but has been removed for GT5 with no apparent reason, Porting cars from one game to another ( trust me is very simple compared to creating new cars )
Weather and day/night transitions limited to certain scenario's and tracks.
We have waited 5 years for this, and the best they can do is implement it in a limited form, this should have been an option for every track.
These are my views and yes they have been discussed lots , but I wanted to give my reasons for what I am about to say, so i'll get to the point.
I am no longer going to to spend £150 of my hard earned money on a product that I feel does not live up to what we have been told by Sony & PD all this time.
I am also not giving them that amount for creating such a mess and acting with complete unproffesionalism ( regardless of the unforseen hitches to release )
I am also not going to give them that money beacuse there is no actual difference in the limited edition's over the standard copy, the differences are outside the game. So I can spend the minimum and still get to play the game in its entirety.
Finally
I have bought and played every GT game since day 1 and have enjoyed every single one of them, However I am also seeing this argument from a PC SIM MODDING point of view, and I feel I must say I have seen small teams of 10 or so people create additons to sim racing games with much more thought, proffesionlism and quality than Sony & PD have shown with GT5.
These are my reasons for Feeling let down by PD and my reasons for lowering my support for them in only buying the base package.
I would like to hear from you guys your opinions on all these things and try to gauge how many of you actually feel the same.
Probably going to be locked, but I think this is a very valid discussion.
Now we have our long awaited Track & Car list are you still going to give Sony & PD £150 ( or country equivilant ) for the limited edition Collectors and Signature Editions.
I personally have pre-orderd a signature edition with GAME UK, and have been looking very much forward to this day. ( although this will change by the end of my post )
However, in the last few days thankfully video's and information have been leaked and given us a preview of what to expect. And I must admit I am very greatfull to the person(s) for submitting this information as it has shown me that GT5 is perhaps not the " BIG LEAP " from GT4 that maybe should have been.
Not only is it quite hard to see where the last "FIVE" years development time have gone, ( yes i did put five like that because its a very large amount of time ). But it is also very dissapointing to see that so much of the game has been leftout.
Standard car modding
Many of the original tracks
Lack of cars from recent years
Weather on all tracks
Night Day on all tracks
( before I go any further I would like to state I fully understandwhat goes into making cars and tracks for games , and I do have a very good understanding of the time and effort needed , just incase anyone wants to argue I dont know what I am on about )
I am to say the least very dissapointed to see the pathetic track list that has been released with this game, some of you will argue it's not pathietic, those of you that are old school GT fans will get my point.
There are countless tracks from GT's of old that would have required minimal updating to be included in GT5 , and a small amount of time and man power considerng the big picture of 5 years production and IMO are part of the essence of GT.
Not being able to change the wheels on standard cars is just ridiculous, it was an option in GT4 , but has been removed for GT5 with no apparent reason, Porting cars from one game to another ( trust me is very simple compared to creating new cars )
Weather and day/night transitions limited to certain scenario's and tracks.
We have waited 5 years for this, and the best they can do is implement it in a limited form, this should have been an option for every track.
These are my views and yes they have been discussed lots , but I wanted to give my reasons for what I am about to say, so i'll get to the point.
I am no longer going to to spend £150 of my hard earned money on a product that I feel does not live up to what we have been told by Sony & PD all this time.
I am also not giving them that amount for creating such a mess and acting with complete unproffesionalism ( regardless of the unforseen hitches to release )
I am also not going to give them that money beacuse there is no actual difference in the limited edition's over the standard copy, the differences are outside the game. So I can spend the minimum and still get to play the game in its entirety.
Finally
I have bought and played every GT game since day 1 and have enjoyed every single one of them, However I am also seeing this argument from a PC SIM MODDING point of view, and I feel I must say I have seen small teams of 10 or so people create additons to sim racing games with much more thought, proffesionlism and quality than Sony & PD have shown with GT5.
These are my reasons for Feeling let down by PD and my reasons for lowering my support for them in only buying the base package.
I would like to hear from you guys your opinions on all these things and try to gauge how many of you actually feel the same.
I couldnt care less about that tiny little car statue, or a keychain.
, but as someone else said: GT3 had only 150 cars and no-one complained, as far as I know.