does a DS3 help compared to the sixaxis ?

[scabbyhorse2]

i assume it vibrates going over rumble strips etc but does it vibrate when you're in a slide ? maybe gets worse when you have lots of opposite lock ?
was just thinking maybe it gives you some more feedback

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

yes this is exactly what it does, gives you a little bit more feedback .
Stil the analog button won't work like they did on previous GT games... that always been a big advantage of the series, this time its a huge disappointment, imo they aren't sensitive enough. its almost like on or off

 

[ChadSpeed]

yes this is exactly what it does, gives you a little bit more feedback .
Stil the analog button won't work like they did on previous GT games... that always been a big advantage of the series, this time its a huge disappointment, imo they aren't sensitive enough. its almost like on or off

I agree, it does give more feedback, but the on/off effect from the analog sticks to the triggers is frustrating. I set up my DS3 like my FM2 set-up, using the triggers for gas and brake, but its impossible to modulate. Maybe PD can provide a sensitivity slider for the DS3 in the full GT5.

 

[Kryz11]

Maybe PD puts more work into FFB and wheels?

COUGH COUGH

 

[ChadSpeed]

sure. more have a controller probably though.

 

[bevo]

It may help a little bit, but you can buy a dfp wheel now for less than you can get a ds3.
I would suggest getting one of those over the new controller. The wheels make a world of difference.

 

[legroom]

i assume it vibrates going over rumble strips etc but does it vibrate when you're in a slide ? maybe gets worse when you have lots of opposite lock ?
was just thinking maybe it gives you some more feedback

The pad vibrates when you run over rumble strips, grass, gravel, jumps etc. Also when there is contact between cars or the environment and when wheelspinning/oversteer and understeer. It's a useful feature and more involving than the anaesthetic, disconnected feeling of the SIXAXIS.

but the on/off effect from the analog sticks to the triggers is frustrating. I set up my DS3 like my FM2 set-up, using the triggers for gas and brake, but its impossible to modulate.

I'd disagree with this comment ChadSpeed. The whole point of the analogue sticks and triggers is so that more progressive inputs can be made. If it were just on/off they would be digital! If you feel the sticks and triggers are on/off then i'd recommend you try a few hand training exercises to increase manual dexterity. I'm not trying to belittle with that comment, it's the truth and they certainly work! I took about 4 seconds of my lap times in GT4 by improving my dexterity.

I use the left stick for steering and the right for accel/brake and can modulate the throtte really well, putting in very slight inputs, holding constant throttle. Even cadence braking (modulating pressure on the brakes to prevent wheels locking up) is possible with the stick. It's more difficult with the triggers but still definitely possible.

It may help a little bit, but you can buy a dfp wheel now for less than you can get a ds3.
I would suggest getting one of those over the new controller. The wheels make a world of difference.

Bevo; whilst your advice is true, a DS3 is a more useful investment over all as its functionality will be used across all new PS3 games (and patched into most old ones!) because the DS3 is the only controller now being produced. Sony have stopped production of the SIXAXIS as of last month.

Whilst a wheel is the best option for GT5P, your comment does not answer ScabbyHorses' question.

PLEASE can we keep this thread focused towards answering ScabbyHorses' question and not a debate about whether wheels are better than controllers! *prays a little to the driving gods (not talking about Richard Hammond! hehe)

 

[ChadSpeed]

I'd disagree with this comment ChadSpeed. The whole point of the analogue sticks and triggers is so that more progressive inputs can be made. If it were just on/off they would be digital! If you feel the sticks and triggers are on/off then i'd recommend you try a few hand training exercises to increase manual dexterity. I'm not trying to belittle with that comment, it's the truth and they certainly work! I took about 4 seconds of my lap times in GT4 by improving my dexterity.

I understand your point and don't consider it belittling. I never use aids in any racing game, so even for FM2 I had the ability to not lock my wheels up under braking. Maybe with the DS3 its fat wide triggers are impeding on my dexterity when it comes to using them this way. I may go back and try the stick again, I too had gotten very good with it in GT3 and 4. Not sure if its the controller or the game at fault, but whats up with bouncing off the rev limiter at less than half throttle, been happening since I can remember in GT?

 

[bevo]

Bevo; whilst your advice is true, a DS3 is a more useful investment over all as its functionality will be used across all new PS3 games (and patched into most old ones!) because the DS3 is the only controller now being produced. Sony have stopped production of the SIXAXIS as of last month.

I did answer his question. I said that it may help a little. But then i went on to give him an answer that would make his game playing much more enjoyable than any normal controller will. You can get a dfp on ebay for 20$. I don't think 20$ is going to break anyones bank.

 

[legroom]

Not sure if its the controller or the game at fault, but whats up with bouncing off the rev limiter at less than half throttle, been happening since I can remember in GT?

I know the problem that you mean.
A few other people have said about it too, particularly when using the triggers, but i've never experienced the problem!

I think that it might be a controller problem, as the L2/R2 triggers on both of my SIXAXIS controllers click (both audibly and through a slight movement under your finger) when they're depressed quickly to beyond about 75% of their travel. My 2 DS3 controllers however, don't do this!

Anyway.... i digress...

In my opinion, get yourself a DS3!

If you're in the UK/Mainland Europe take a look at a US site, YesAsia.com or head to your local independent game shop.

If you're in the US, any game store (they should have been released mid April!)

 

[-TL-]

Best Buy recently had a deal, where you get a DS3 for $20 CAD if you buy GT5P at the same time! I nabbed it right away as it sold out extremely quickly.

I have always used the DS2's sticks for steering and throttle (left and right respectively) in GT4, and feel that is the best way to fine-tune and control your car. I found that over time, I developed a more refined control over it and dexterity. Having said that, I'm used to the rumble/force-feedback the controller gives when you go over strips or hit something, etc.

I haven't even bought a PS3 yet but I am a HUGE GT fan, and hope to race some of you out there real soon! I'm in the middle of my exams right now so after Tuesday, I'll go buy my PS3, and I will be on the battlefield.

 

[Oliver DePlace]

I needed another controller for split-screen and went looking for a DS3, until I realized that they cost $55US.

Since I have a drawerful of DS2s, I hopped over to Fry's for a PS2-to-PS3 converter ($20US). It works a treat. Rumble too! The "Analog" button is the "PS" button. A type "A" plug-receptacle USB cable can give you some additional length.

So, if you have a DS2, and can use a cable connection, this converter can save you a bit of money.

BTW, the converter I have is HVG2 (PS214). I have read that some converters don't seem to work with various games/HID, but with GT5P/DS2, this one does work.