Does heel-toe shifting really help? Shifting without clutch?

[Thomasss95]

Hey,

I know that a lot of people do heel-toe when they shift a gear down.
It looks and sounds very cool, but does it really make you go faster?
If I am not wrong, the point of heel-toe is that you get high revs after shifting down.
Does it help or is it just cool?

Another thing I see some people do is shifting without using the clutch.
There is a name for that, but I can't remember it...
Is that possible to do in GT5?

Thomas

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

One of my friends can change gear without using the clutch.
It's bizarre, at a certain amount of revs the gear can slip out.
Then he gives the car more revs and can slip it into the next.

His car is a piece of junk, I always presumed there was something wrong with it.

 

[Thomasss95]

One of my friends can change gear without using the clutch.
It's bizarre, at a certain amount of revs the gear can slip out.
Then he gives the car more revs and can slip it into the next.

His car is a piece of junk, I always presumed there was something wrong with it.

No, there is nothing wrong with his car.
But if he does it wrong, there will be something wrong with the car.

 

[Scaff]

In the real world heel and toe is vital for maintaining car stability and avoiding driven wheel lock-up, however as GT5's physics are more than a bit lenient in these areas its not a major problem.

 

[Hayden]

Heal toe on GT5 seems to be done very rarely by people online. I've heard that it isn't simulated quite right and will slow you down. As for shifting sans clutch, depending on the vehicle you are driving it can vary from very easy (like your mates car) to downright impossible and stupid.

It can be done somewhat in GT5 but only in the same way as the paddle shifters. You can select any gear you like and it will choose it hassle free. If you touch the clutch at all though it will stop working.

 

[Stotty]

Hey,

I know that a lot of people do heel-toe when they shift a gear down.
It looks and sounds very cool, but does it really make you go faster?
If I am not wrong, the point of heel-toe is that you get high revs after shifting down.
Does it help or is it just cool?

Another thing I see some people do is shifting without using the clutch.
There is a name for that, but I can't remember it...
Is that possible to do in GT5?

Thomas

As Scaff says, you don't need to do it in GT5, but it's a vital skill to learn for fast driving, particularly on track, as it helps control weight transfer - without toe & heel, down changes in to lower gears at high revs can unsettle the rear of the car.

Changing gear without using the clutch is relatively simple in a lot of cars... on up changes you just wait a fraction of a second to let the revs die and then slip the next gear in. Downchanges are even easier. The only time you really need to use clutchless changes is if you're left foot braking in car with a manual gearbox.

 

[DoriftoDoriDori]

I do it on my DFGT and i can improve my time at Tsukuba by a few thousand seconds, i mean it keeps the revs up the rev range a bit.

 

[carracerptp]

I do it on my DFGT and i can improve my time at Tsukuba by a few thousand seconds, i mean it keeps the revs up the rev range a bit.

You can't "heal-toe" with a DFGT. Or clutchless shift, powershift, and flat shift.

The game by default as an "auto" bilip and clutch(read as: automatic heal-toe) for all non-clutch wheels and controllers.

You can heal-toe with a G27, or other higher end wheels because they have a clutch pedal.

GT5s built in "auto" bilip is so fast and perfect it will beat or tie anyone doing it themselves.

 

[seanneedscar]

I do it on my DFGT and i can improve my time at Tsukuba by a few thousand seconds, i mean it keeps the revs up the rev range a bit.

There is no way you can run consistent times, to the thousandth of a second taking human error into account

The improvement from heel toe is thus immeasurable. Completely negligible. But if its more fun to you that way (this is the reason why we play GT5, to have fun right?) then by all means, feel free