Dr rating

[Shottah072]

DR increases when you place in the top half of the grid (finishing in the top 10 of a 12 car race isn't exactly a great result) and finish ahead of your expected position (based on DR ranking, and seemingly displayed to all in the lobby as your car's door number).

Top half is only so when the lobby is fairly even ranked. Because then everyone is close to the avarage strength of the lobby wich wil naturaly cause the DR win/lose boundary to be around the mid of the field. When player atandence is low the field can be pretty uneven with S's A's B's C's and even D's or E's in one lobby. When this is the case the natural midfield boundary disapears. The top guy who in a even field would not lose much when he finish 10th of 20 now suddenly does and the C or D drivers can get a boost by finishing 10 to 15th of 20 cause the top players make for a higher avarage strength of the lobby then they would normaly be in. The avarage rank of all players in the lobby vs your own rank and the expected finish position based on your rank vs your actual finish position make up how much DR you gain or lose.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I do not care where my DR ranking ends up just as long as it puts me in Daily Sport races with competitive similar lap time drivers. I do not mind starting near the rear at times or mid pack but would like to start up front at times as well.

Most races since after about the first week of launch the races have been full of A, B and C level drivers filling the front half of the grid while the D level drivers were used as grid fillers for the back half of the grids.

Apparently there were not enough higher ranked drivers on the North American Servers for the S, A and B ranked drivers to fill their own lobbies in Sport Mode without adding the slower D ranked drivers. I did see that SOME of the races yesterday that the lobbies were better at times at grouping drivers with closer lap times from start to finish than what it had been in the past.

At least PD is trying to rectify the problem. I think to many people worry about advancing to a higher DR rank not understanding the whole purpose of the DR system is to place closely matched racers together in the same race for good close fun competition.

If you are racing at DR S or DR A pace then you will end up there. You notice I did say RACING at that pace not just turning one qualifying lap at or near that pace, it is a lot of difference.

If I was put in races with the guys on the top ten leader board I would be riding around on the track by myself because they would have checked out quickly.

 

[Baconink]

I was dr s and sr s up until recently where I started at the back at inter Lagos and laggy bumper cars gave me a few penalties and stuff and now I’m at dr a sr s
Any ideas how long it’s gonna take to bring that back up
The first lobby I entered back as an a rated driver was full of d class so maybe I have to get from bottom to top of a to progress to next rank again?!

Not very long if you drive well and at least don’t lose position. Seems like you get much more DR since update for doing well.

 

[Ryan Sandall]

Not very long if you drive well and at least don’t lose position. Seems like you get much more DR since update for doing well.

That’s good then cos I race well just often get caught up with the guys who don’t know how to defend correctly let’s say, and or retaliate when they have been beaten which is fustrating, wish I could qualify well in the daily races cos then I’d struggle to lose Driver rating tbh

 

[Stotty]

If I was put in races with the guys on the top ten leader board I would be riding around on the track by myself because they would have checked out quickly.

I'm DRS, and this is pretty much what happens to me... matched with Aliens, qualify 3/4/5, stay with them for a lap or 3, then I make a small mistake somewhere, lose contact, and they just disappear.

Still, there are enough good drivers just below Alien pace that I do get get some brilliant races.

 

[Mirror_man]

DR increases when you place in the top half of the grid (finishing in the top 10 of a 12 car race isn't exactly a great result) and finish ahead of your expected position (based on DR ranking, and seemingly displayed to all in the lobby as your car's door number).

Where and how to find our car door number??

Do you known anyone with DR above B??? (like A... or S??) I´ve only found guys the most with DR B!!!! If so could you give us info of what is his "codename" ?? Please?

 

[zzz_pt]

Where and how to find our car door number??

Do you known anyone with DR above B??? (like A... or S??) I´ve only found guys the most with DR B!!!! If so could you give us info of what is his "codename" ?? Please?

There are plenty of DRA and quite a few DRS drivers by now.

 

[Mirror_man]

There are plenty of DRA and quite a few DRS drivers by now.

Thanks ZZZ!!! I´ve figured that out today!

 

[PirovacBoy]

Hello Famine, I just wanted to thank you for your respectfull behavior in yesterdays‘ Sport race. We were in the lobby at around 3 or 4 o‘clock in the morning Racing around Alsace Village. I got punted by some honorless guy and had to roll up the field from the last place. You were the only one who acted like a real racer and let me pass you on the final lap.

 

[Baconink]

Where and how to find our car door number??

Do you known anyone with DR above B??? (like A... or S??) I´ve only found guys the most with DR B!!!! If so could you give us info of what is his "codename" ?? Please?

Your number is on your car during an FIA race or a daily. He’s claiming if you finish in that place of number or higher you’ll gain dr. That may be true but I don’t think it’s 100% accurate.

Also. I’m a DR S and SR S.

 

[Famine]

Hello Famine, I just wanted to thank you for your respectfull behavior in yesterdays‘ Sport race. We were in the lobby at around 3 or 4 o‘clock in the morning Racing around Alsace Village. I got punted by some honorless guy and had to roll up the field from the last place. You were the only one who acted like a real racer and let me pass you on the final lap.

Well... honestly... I was rolling around the track rather slowly anyway for an ongoing experiment, but even if I wasn't it was clear that you were significantly faster (I didn't get on well with that combination at all!) and there wouldn't have been any sense to making it too difficult for you.

Where and how to find our car door number??

On the door of your car, during an online race. It's also displayed in the matchmaking screen and, most clearly, in your post-race results screen.

He’s claiming if you finish in that place of number or higher you’ll gain dr.

Nope.

I'm saying that it's part of your DR increase/decrease calculation, along with your overall race position. You could easily finish ahead of it and lose DR - say by finishing 11th in a 12-car lobby, with a door number of 12. I've seen it in a race where I had #11, started 11th, finished 8th and got no increase in DR (don't know if I got a decrease, because my driver only has 1pt), so I don't think I'd ever claim that finishing above your door number gives you a DR increase...

Part of the experiment in the race @PirovacBoy mentions above is determining exactly how much weighting is given to these factors, as my main account has a lot more DR points than 1. All I can say so far though is that, after 1.08, it's really weird.

 

[Baconink]

Well... honestly... I was rolling around the track rather slowly anyway for an ongoing experiment, but even if I wasn't it was clear that you were significantly faster (I didn't get on well with that combination at all!) and there wouldn't have been any sense to making it too difficult for you.

On the door of your car, during an online race. It's also displayed in the matchmaking screen and, most clearly, in your post-race results screen.

Nope.

I'm saying that it's part of your DR increase/decrease calculation, along with your overall race position. You could easily finish ahead of it and lose DR - say by finishing 11th in a 12-car lobby, with a door number of 12. I've seen it in a race where I had #11, started 11th, finished 8th and got no increase in DR (don't know if I got a decrease, because my driver only has 1pt), so I don't think I'd ever claim that finishing above your door number gives you a DR increase...

Part of the experiment in the race @PirovacBoy mentions above is determining exactly how much weighting is given to these factors, as my main account has a lot more DR points than 1. All I can say so far though is that, after 1.08, it's really weird.

My bad in interpreting that wrong. I think it has a whole lot to do with the field you’re going against. If it’s a lower field than you’re rating and you lose position you’re going to lose a lot of DR. If you won I. The same race you won’t get much if any DR because the system feels you should be winning it. On the other hand in a lobby with high rated players you can move up a spot or even fall back a spot and still gain DR. It happens to me all the time

 

[Mirror_man]

Well... honestly... I was rolling around the track rather slowly anyway for an ongoing experiment, but even if I wasn't it was clear that you were significantly faster (I didn't get on well with that combination at all!) and there wouldn't have been any sense to making it too difficult for you.

On the door of your car, during an online race. It's also displayed in the matchmaking screen and, most clearly, in your post-race results screen.

Nope.

I'm saying that it's part of your DR increase/decrease calculation, along with your overall race position. You could easily finish ahead of it and lose DR - say by finishing 11th in a 12-car lobby, with a door number of 12. I've seen it in a race where I had #11, started 11th, finished 8th and got no increase in DR (don't know if I got a decrease, because my driver only has 1pt), so I don't think I'd ever claim that finishing above your door number gives you a DR increase...

Part of the experiment in the race @PirovacBoy mentions above is determining exactly how much weighting is given to these factors, as my main account has a lot more DR points than 1. All I can say so far though is that, after 1.08, it's really weird.

Very honestly.. I´m not finding that... will keep trying.. though

 

[PirovacBoy]

Well, what I have noticed yesterday was, that despite been the only DrA driver in those races (I drove about 10 races at Alsace) Famine was B rated and the rest were C and D drivers, that my door number was always between #4~#7 although I had pole in every race. And although I won 9/10 of those races , my Dr barely increased.
It was the same amount i gained as on one single race i drove before that „marathon“ in a much stronger lobby against a few top10 drivers where my door number was #4 and I finished 3rd. So me too still doesn’t have a conclusion how much influence the given door number actually weighs into a race or why my door number was so high in those races facing much lower ranked opponents.

 

[JacksHerer]

Where to find the door number needs to be a sticky lol

I had a look at that DR tool mentioned in the other thread, cant insert the link, but it should also be a sticky, it has an abbreviation
DPUR which I have no idea what it means?

 

[Famine]

I´m not finding that...

You know when you finish a race and you get a little animated clip of you and your car? There will be a very large, square, white sticker on the car with a number in it...

My bad in interpreting that wrong. I think it has a whole lot to do with the field you’re going against. If it’s a lower field than you’re rating and you lose position you’re going to lose a lot of DR. If you won I. The same race you won’t get much if any DR because the system feels you should be winning it. On the other hand in a lobby with high rated players you can move up a spot or even fall back a spot and still gain DR. It happens to me all the time

At the moment I'm not seeing all that much variation. With the same low-ranked driver, I've been gaining as much DR points by winning from pole and winning from last with a very high door number. But I've gained less by winning from pole with a lower door number.

For reference, in an all D/D field, I gained exactly 801pt by winning from pole with a #10 car on two occasions. But then I also did in a D/E field. But v1.08 has made it all go a bit weird after that.

Well, what I have noticed yesterday was, that despite been the only DrA driver in those races (I drove about 10 races at Alsace) Famine was B rated and the rest were C and D drivers, that my door number was always between #4~#7 although I had pole in every race. And although I won 9/10 of those races , my Dr barely increased.
It was the same amount i gained as on one single race i drove before that „marathon“ in a much stronger lobby against a few top10 drivers where my door number was #4 and I finished 3rd. So me too still doesn’t have a conclusion how much influence the given door number actually weighs into a race or why my door number was so high in those races facing much lower ranked opponents.

Something changed with v1.08. It was always incredibly consistent and now it isn't.

DPUR

Driver Point Up Rate. Seems to be the percentage of points you have out of those required to reach the next driver level - although there are occasions where it goes over 100 and you don't level up...

Baffling really

 

[JacksHerer]

ahh, I had no tracks I liked today, only did a couple of races with no qualifying on the first. It dropped from 72 to 69, I finished one race with a red SR and checked the website again, I noticed my SR had only dropped from 99 to 98. So it must take a lot to drop significantly.

 

[Baconink]

Well, what I have noticed yesterday was, that despite been the only DrA driver in those races (I drove about 10 races at Alsace) Famine was B rated and the rest were C and D drivers, that my door number was always between #4~#7 although I had pole in every race. And although I won 9/10 of those races , my Dr barely increased.
It was the same amount i gained as on one single race i drove before that „marathon“ in a much stronger lobby against a few top10 drivers where my door number was #4 and I finished 3rd. So me too still doesn’t have a conclusion how much influence the given door number actually weighs into a race or why my door number was so high in those races facing much lower ranked opponents.

That’s what I’m saying. If you’re the highest ranked player in the lobby then you’re not going to gain that much DR no matter how good you finish but you have potential to lose a lot of DR if you so badly.

Edit: where are you guys finding an actual numbered rating for your DR and SR. Thanks in advance.

 

[Outspacer]

Well, what I have noticed yesterday was, that despite been the only DrA driver in those races (I drove about 10 races at Alsace) Famine was B rated and the rest were C and D drivers, that my door number was always between #4~#7 although I had pole in every race. And although I won 9/10 of those races , my Dr barely increased.
It was the same amount i gained as on one single race i drove before that „marathon“ in a much stronger lobby against a few top10 drivers where my door number was #4 and I finished 3rd. So me too still doesn’t have a conclusion how much influence the given door number actually weighs into a race or why my door number was so high in those races facing much lower ranked opponents.

It would make sense, but there seems to be a mistake in the code! At the moment, C's get lower door numbers than As or Bs, and Ds can get any number. Every race I've seen recently, the theory by @machine1121 has proved to be correct. See this post:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...th-in-terms-of-dr.370778/page-3#post-12104858

Driver Point Up Rate. Seems to be the percentage of points you have out of those required to reach the next driver level - although there are occasions where it goes over 100 and you don't level up...

Baffling really

It goes over 100 if you're SR isn't at least up to the same level as the DR would go up to. So your D/D driver can't get to DR:C without being SR:C, but DPUR carries on regardless.

 

[PirovacBoy]

That’s what I’m saying. If you’re the highest ranked player in the lobby then you’re not going to gain that much DR no matter how good you finish but you have potential to lose a lot of DR if you so badly.

Edit: where are you guys finding an actual numbered rating for your DR and SR. Thanks in advance.

I don’t know if it’s that http://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?extend=y what you’re looking for, I tried to use it with my iPhone but it didn’t work.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I don’t know if it’s that http://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?extend=y what you’re looking for, I tried to use it with my iPhone but it didn’t work.

That's it. It works with Chrome.

It would be nice if DR was calculated per track instead of overall. By the time it's tuned to my skill on one track, it's not matching the next. So it is going up and down as intended, yet lagging behind. Not great if you only want to play a couple races a day. The variation in matchmaking is probably greater than mine on different tracks though. I often see 10 sec difference in qualifying times and A to D all included in the same race. SR.S must be quite small.

 

[PirovacBoy]

That's it. It works with Chrome.

It would be nice if DR was calculated per track instead of overall. By the time it's tuned to my skill on one track, it's not matching the next. So it is going up and down as intended, yet lagging behind. Not great if you only want to play a couple races a day. The variation in matchmaking is probably greater than mine on different tracks though. I often see 10 sec difference in qualifying times and A to D all included in the same race. SR.S must be quite small.

I‘ve tried it with Chrome, Aloha, Firefox and Safari Browser, hell no chance to drag n‘ drop that link. I could copy and paste it to my bookmark list but when I open two tabs, gt.com in one and kudosprime in the other it doesn’t work , guess i‘m too old for this stuff

 

[quikk]

I was having amazing time in rank D, couple of wins, never outside top 10, but still racing seemed competitive, now im rank C and usually place around 10th position, which isnt as rewarding. Plus if im playing at night (which is most of my play time) i get matched with B drivers and some of them just outpace me like 3 seconds in qualifiers. It gets frustrating in some races where im like 10 seconds in front of the last couple of drivers and then 3-5 seconds behind top 10, most of the time get really bored and instead of catching up, making slight mistakes.
This is my first 2 weeks with a racing simulator so that might be the case, lets hope in next couple of weeks I get better results.

 

[Baconink]

I was having amazing time in rank D, couple of wins, never outside top 10, but still racing seemed competitive, now im rank C and usually place around 10th position, which isnt as rewarding. Plus if im playing at night (which is most of my play time) i get matched with B drivers and some of them just outpace me like 3 seconds in qualifiers. It gets frustrating in some races where im like 10 seconds in front of the last couple of drivers and then 3-5 seconds behind top 10, most of the time get really bored and instead of catching up, making slight mistakes.
This is my first 2 weeks with a racing simulator so that might be the case, lets hope in next couple of weeks I get better results.

I’ve noticed that late at night is when the fast ones mostly seem to play, myself included lol. I to like you was winning much more early on with a lower rank and when I got to A/S I wasn’t winning nearly as much if at all. I felt similar as you do but then it became actually way more fun than winning by +30 seconds. It made me push my boundaries and I have now made it to S/S and am able to keep up with some of the greats. I say some, not all lol. Give it time man, nothing rewarding is ever easy.

 

[quikk]

I’ve noticed that late at night is when the fast ones mostly seem to play, myself included lol. I to like you was winning much more early on with a lower rank and when I got to A/S I wasn’t winning nearly as much if at all. I felt similar as you do but then it became actually way more fun than winning by +30 seconds. It made me push my boundaries and I have now made it to S/S and am able to keep up with some of the greats. I say some, not all lol. Give it time man, nothing rewarding is ever easy.

Understand it will be much more rewarding in the future, its just this transition period that requires patience and practice. I am hoping that buying a wheel will also help me, as the DS4 has some constraints.

 

[PirovacBoy]

Opposite situation here, just cruising around Myabi with not so hard competitors, Bacon, you are officially invited to put some pressure up here edit: sorry for off-topic

 

[Baconink]

Opposite situation here, just cruising around Myabi with not so hard competitors, Bacon, you are officially invited to put some pressure up here edit: sorry for off-topic

Haha I would love to man. I’m actually on right now and I’m a lobby with a buddy that’s also on here. Got booted from FIA tonight and the dailies are meh. What region are you in and what rank are you? I always get into races with nznznznznz, praiano, z28, setted, qwbufp, and I know there are quite a few other very fast ones that’s slipping my mind atm. Send me a friend invite and I’d be happy to run some races with you.

Understand it will be much more rewarding in the future, its just this transition period that requires patience and practice. I am hoping that buying a wheel will also help me, as the DS4 has some constraints.

I think a wheel helps immensely. It takes a bit of getting used to but being able to smoothen out sour inputs and hold throttle and brake in position easier is the greatest benefit I think. And if you’re natuarally a good driver it kinda comes naturally. Being on the edge is what takes the most practice.

 

[Ryan Sandall]

ahh, I had no tracks I liked today, only did a couple of races with no qualifying on the first. It dropped from 72 to 69, I finished one race with a red SR and checked the website again, I noticed my SR had only dropped from 99 to 98. So it must take a lot to drop significantly.

What is the website you can check the safety ratings?

 

[JacksHerer]

www.gran-turismo.com/gb login with your PSN ID and view your profile page. You also need to visit the site and follow the instructions as mentioned in post #50 above ^
the tool will add some text at the bottom of your profile page, scroll down and you see it.

I had assumed SR 99/99 was all for SR:S, but I guess the 99 is split from SR:E to SR:S, I don't know if anyone has said what the 99 break down is.

 

[Bass Addict]

I had assumed SR 99/99 was all for SR:S, but I guess the 99 is split from SR:E to SR:S, I don't know if anyone has said what the 99 break down is.

I believe this is the breakdown for SR:
1-9 = E
10-19 = D
20-39 = C
40-64 = B
65 - 79 = A
80 - 99 = S