Increased wheel lock angle and therefore increased drift angle is always a master plus imo. I hate speed/low angle drifting and am a freak for angle. Therefore, increased angle, independent of the type of "mode" I'm in, is always a plus. That's the good part. The bad part is...obviously the stupid points system to wich i NEVER adhered, in gt5, on seazonals, etc. It's not an Arcade game, I'm not into it, don't care really, not gonna be bothered by it. The other bad part is me and friends doing - as usually - chilled tsuiso lobbies, drift trains, and seeing tones of noobs getting in, doing full laps on points and sugesting they're the s**t beacuse of it. But the lobbies can be private. As a few people sugested, lobbies have "rules" and a general "mood" to them (if they're good). Just kick the people that disregard the rules, points or no points...or ask them to stick to the lobby purpose. Simple. Same in every lobby, regardless of being in drift trial or no drift trial. I do agree with the fact that it should however be an option for all cars and modes though, beacuse it's actually a bit confusing moving lobbies and getting diferent angles AKA spin party after a drift trial mode lobby. I don't feel any diferent reactions or physics from the car, Lazy, just the increased angle. Drift for points ? NO. Nevermind that. Drift for angle ? YES !