Engine/Drivetrain Swaps

id have soo much fun with it.. & if you can switch the drive train that be cool to.. AWD Nova ss lol..
It would Deff give the opposite side a second thought on what there really racing as far as online races
 
In GT7, I'd like the ability to convert a vintage VW Beetle to 4WD, and swap the engine out for a Chevy V8 or something. I believe you could do this in Forza 5... so why not in GT?

It sounds like a difficult thing to program at first, but I doubt that's the case.
 
Realistically will never happen (licenses and pesky lawyers will make a brooch out of your liver if you try) but what a cool idea. Obviously you can't go overboard but still if you can imagine it, it probably is possible. I always wanted to transplant a modern 5 liter V8 from current Mustangs to a 60's version and in a realm of video games this can be done. 👍
 
How about having generic engine options, and car-specific unmarked drivetrains rather than having engines with real names? (For example, "Racing Wankel Engine" would be the engine from 787B, "Turbocharged Inline 6 Engine" on Nissan cars would be the engine from R34 Skyline GT-R Vspec 2 Nur)
 
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How about having generic engine options, and car-specific unmarked drivetrains rather than having engines with real names? (For example, "Racing Wankel Engine" would be the engine from 787B, "Turbocharged Inline 6 Engine" on Nissan cars would be the engine from R34 Skyline GT-R Vspec 2 Nur)
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The TXR3 approach is really appealing to me. I would make extensive use of RB26DETT's and SR20's. I would really love to build a RB26 swapped Jaguar.
 
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ScotteDawg
The movie Fast and Furious - Tokyo Drift had an old Mustang with a Nissan motor in it...

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I have to support this thread: It would be interesting if we could do engine swaps and drivetrain manufacturers.

For example of Drivetrain Swaps:
Citroen C4 WRC is 4WD.
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And the road version (C4 2.0 Coupe VTS) is FF.
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So, if I convert this C4 to 4WD, it will become mostly, an WRC Car.

For Engine Swaps
Here's 3 videos.

Peugeot 106 S16 with V8 engine:


Citroen 2CV with Ferrari F355 engine:


Fiat 500 with a Lamborghini V12 engine:


My opinion: I think that we should have an ability to put drivetrain and engine swaps. Engine swaps, should be able to be putted on a car not only from one manufacturer, but also from every single manufacturer.

Forza Motorsports has this ability, so why not in GT? 👍

Here's a video of BMW M3 V10 in FM5:
 
Known engine swaps I want:
LS9 Engine for American Cars, VW Beetle, VW Bus, and some JDM Cars
VR38DETT for JDM Cars
EJ22(22B's) for Boxer Engined Cars(Except Porsches and Modern Subarus)
RB26DETT(R34's) for JDM Cars
2JZGTE for JDM Cars
13B(02 Spirit R's) for Mazdas
K20(EP's) for Hondas
SR20DETT for Nissans
S54B32(CSL's) for BMWs
R26B for Mazdas
C32B(02 NSX R's) for JDM Cars
VQ37HR for JDM Cars
5.2L V10(Gallardo's) for European Cars
6.5L V12(Murcielago's) for European Cars
F136 V8(458 Italia's) for European Cars
F140 V12(Enzo's) for European Cars
3.6L Boxer 6(Both Turbo and Natural) for Boxer Engined Cars
8.4L V10(ACR's) for American Cars
5.8L V8(Shelby GT500's) for American Cars
Race Car Engines(Derrived from each Street Car) for Street Cars(i.e Super GT Version of Supra Engine which is 3UZFE on a Street Version of Supra)
 
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Known engine swaps I want:
LS9 Engine for American Cars, VW Beetle, VW Bus, and some JDM Cars
VR38DETT for JDM Cars
EJ22(22B's) for Boxer Engined Cars(Except Porsches and Modern Subarus)
RB26DETT for JDM Cars
2JZGTE for JDM Cars
13B for Mazdas
K20(EP's) for Hondas
SR20DETT for Nissans
S54B32(CSL's) for BMWs
R26B for Mazdas
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For all cars, without any restrictions for the cars! In my opinion, every engine swaps must be fitted to any car!
 
Harsk100
For all cars, without any restrictions for the cars! In my opinion, every engine swaps must be fitted to any car!
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I think it would be quite an annoyance to most people that idea as say a 26B wouldn't fit in a Honda Life step... but I'd run with it, that way if there was silly restrictions it would mess up the whole thing.

Also more combos. :D

NV8 (Nascar V8) AE86 Tureno
L26 Lancer Evo 7
20B FC 85' (Because drift machine)
RB26N/A KPGC10 Skyline - Rocky auto lookalike
 
I think the best way to implement this feature without making it ridiculous is give cars engine swaps that have been done in real life or swaps that are realistic (I.e K20 Civic, LS S-chassis, etc. NOT Veyron or X2011 engine swaps)
 
One thing that actually annoyed me about the Forza 4 system was how "all or nothing" it was. For a distressing amount of cars, engine swaps included one extremely high performance road engine, and one literal racing engine; rather than swaps that were possible for them to include and relatively common (even staying in house for manufacturer) in real life. Most immediate example that comes to mind is the Mustang II. The emissions strangled boat anchor of a V8 could be swapped pretty much directly with one of later Windsor engines from a Fox body Mustang if you didn't want to spend the time building it up, and you could use that to build a relatively balanced vehicle. And, what a coincidence, there are two Fox bodies Mustangs with decently more powerful Windsor V8s in Forza 4. But instead the Mustang swaps jump all the way up to the SVT Cobra R engine, which would have no chance in hell of fitting normally and which triples the power with no steps in between.

Ditto with the Pinto, whose engine was eventually used as the basis for the Sierra RS Cosworth's (and the later Escort RS Cosworth) humongously successful racing powerplant. And what do you know it, Forza 4 has both of those cars as well as the Pinto. Match made in heaven. They'd both only add about 120 horsepower. So why does the engine swap list go to the SVT Focus engine (which... is kind of odd, but alright) all the way up to the GT500 KR supercharged V8 (which would fit even less in that than the example above and adds five times the horsepower)?
 
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That's why GT could have a huge edge over Forza, if they added engine swaps that have been done in real life, or are possible/will be done in the future.
 
ScotteDawg
But it still fits, right!? So why can't PD do engine swaps?

BTW, love that intercooler on the Stang...
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What everyone seems to be forgetting are the potential legal issues of making engines from one car company swappable into a car from a completely different company in the game.
For example, even Forza doesn't allow you to swap the engine from a Chevrolet into a Nissan.
And I would be willing to guess that the reason for this is some sort of legal issue.
 
C5-R_Racer_84
What everyone seems to be forgetting are the potential legal issues of making engines from one car company swappable into a car from a completely different company in the game.
For example, even Forza doesn't allow you to swap the engine from a Chevrolet into a Nissan.
And I would be willing to guess that the reason for this is some sort of legal issue.
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True that but, I wasn't thinking of that at the time though...

However, even a swap within the manufacturer should be allowed. For example, a Nissan V8 from, say, an Australian V8 Supercar (yes, Nissan do a V8 Supercar) into a Silvia, or a Mercedes V8 into an A-Class... The results would be hilarious!
 
Engine swap maybe...but not Drivetrain swap for me
Cuz IMO Drivetrain swap will make every difference of the drivetrain (And car control) in this game meaningless....probably most players will change their car drivetrain to 4WD ><
 
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Engine swap maybe...but not Drivetrain swap for me
Cuz IMO Drivetrain swap will make every difference of the drivetrain (And car control) in this game meaningless....probably most players will change their car drivetrain to 4WD ><
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I do agree with you, but a lot of people wanted this thread to encompass drivetrain swaps as well.
 
In terms of drivetrain swaps I feel that any 4wd car should have the option to be FR and that should provide all the benefits of lower drivetrain power losses and handling balance changes. Although that would only really be useful for more low powered 4wd's. Converting any non 4wd car to 4wd should add extra weight (prop shaft, drive shafts, diff and mountings, let's say 75kg?) to the vehicle, drivetrain power losses and come with a fairly substantial cost. There should also be a list of cars where such an upgrade is simply not allowed, cars like the mclaren f1, many MR's or dedicated race machines.

Engine swaps! I have done several in real life and they are often the easiest way of obtaining real and meaningful power increases from a car. My suggestion is that the game would know the base specs of each engine, it's weight and it's outer dimensions, each car's engine bay would also have it's inner dimensions roughly measured. If the box the engine is will fit inside the box of the engine bay the swap should be possible. Got a small car well then choices will be quite limited, big old muscle car? Well then would sir like to peruse the shop of shiny new lumps?
 
you race 4WD on forza as the aids are a lot less customizable and effective. Also I love the idea of a ZR1 engine in a little colt... but some of their stuff is dumb. For example a 787B engine in the 2016 MX-5 on a DIRT ROAD!!
 
Establish the rough dimensions of each engine bay, do the same for each engine and if the engine fits in the bay then it's a valid swap.

Crude but should be good enough to satisfy many. The weight of each engine would be a good feature as well but I doubt PD would want to go that in depth.
 
Well in real life people put 2JZ and LS motors in anything these days.

I am happy if nothing too absurd is in the game.
 

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