Enhance Your Skills - Race 4, official results in first post

[holl01]

Excellent, don't think I have even driven this car yet, will give it some time over the long weekend:tup:

 

[Chadwicksracing]

Will it be faster going down there?

Yes, it will be faster, you are traveling a short distance to get around the track. I don't know if its allowed by the game though.

 

[spyrrari]

I remember syrrari, dont worry, unless you clearly do a invalid lap it will be allowed. IFTC was extremly strict, like 1cm over the line you got a DQ. Obvoiusly any wall touches are not allowed.

dear boy,could you please call me spy..or spyrrari..??...
i dont call you arkyoy dont i??....sorry,but you miss it almost every time.......👍

and i am not worried,i just remembered that by cutting the chicane too much,one gaines a lot of time...just a warning for all of us...


spyrrari.

 

[Chadwicksracing]

1'45.381 ATM, top ten here I come..20 mins of runs

 

[Mad94d]

Running below the yellow line is quite often slower. Due to the car stepping out. So I don't think this is a worry. It's slower in every car i've driven so far. Used to be faster in Spec II, but PD fixed it.

 

[osrg]

Nooooooooooo!

This is the one car i have never got the hang of.

Yeah right

P10 at the moment says you can't lie straight in bed...........

 

[Egghead43]

Wow. This one will really enhance my skills, I've never really enjoyed driving this car.
Only managed about 4 clean laps so far (and lots of dirty ones!).

Sitting at 1:45.448 right now.

 

[TiZzla]

Yeah right

P10 at the moment says you can't lie straight in bed...........

i swear i was so useless in this car, check all the time trials i never ever drive this car.

i just watched faks replay and went straight into it - got 15th after about 2 good laps. no joke just felt really good. i was so surprised

 

[Mad94d]

Update to rules saying that if you think your lap is close to being dirty, consider it dirty and abandon the lap to avoid it appearing in the rankings. Please guys, I'm trying to keep it simple. At this round we shouldn't have any problems though.

 

[crazytortise]

a good sportsman should'nt have to have a dirty lap just to come 1st. should give it his best and be clean and accept defeat if he is beaten

 

[markyboy92]

Last race i was 5th[net p3] but i was happy as i was clean, still just 0.03x off p1, doing race 3 results now.

 

[osrg]

i swear i was so useless in this car, check all the time trials i never ever drive this car.

i just watched faks replay and went straight into it - got 15th after about 2 good laps. no joke just felt really good. i was so surprised

Well, you're a far superior steerer to me........ i can't get anywhere with this thing, just too sensitive on throttle, and i can't left foot brake to aid the balance of the car.... it's a nightmare.

I personally think a sixaxxis would aid laptimes on this circuit with the ability to change direction so quickly from lock to lock.

 

[foxmulder9]

I don't think you need to steer from lock to lock. I use a wheel and i set the force feedback to 2 for this car, otherwise my arms would become sour very quickly trying to hold the wheel still.

Well, you're a far superior steerer to me........ i can't get anywhere with this thing, just too sensitive on throttle, and i can't left foot brake to aid the balance of the car.... it's a nightmare.

I personally think a sixaxxis would aid laptimes on this circuit with the ability to change direction so quickly from lock to lock.

 

[LinPark]

I hated this car when I first started playing about 8 months ago - I couldn't even manage to get through the first turn at Suzuka in it so I gave up. Last night it took me about 10 tries just to get through the infield but then I started to get better. I finished the night in the top 50 I think with about a 1'46.xxx - the bus stop is killing me and I have no clue what I'm doing wrong.

Oddly enough, I took spy's advice and drove really slow the first few times - I never even got to full throttle on those laps I was going so slow.

 

[The Outlaw]

Well, you're a far superior steerer to me........ i can't get anywhere with this thing, just too sensitive on throttle, and i can't left foot brake to aid the balance of the car.... it's a nightmare.

I personally think a sixaxxis would aid laptimes on this circuit with the ability to change direction so quickly from lock to lock.

I'd like to see you take the GTLM for a spin around Daytona (with the 6-axis) and then try and tell me it helps you put in a faster lap time. haha. The only place where you have to change direction even remotely quick is at the bus stop chicane, and even then you don't have to be that fast with your movements. It's more important to be as precise and minimal with your movements than anything. When you cross over the rumble strips on the entry of the chicane I'm sure the wheel is a big advantage in maintaining the stability of the car. With the wheel you can be much more precise with your inputs when the suspension compresses as it crest over the rumble strips. On top of that, T1 is a terrible braking zone for pad guys, and also most of the infield corners are extremely difficult to lay power down smoothly. Lastly, it is damn hard to nail the entry and trail brake perfectly at T4 when using the pad. All your inputs must be very smooth and timed perfectly to minimize understeer, while also maintaining the ideal line through there...something that's not exactly easy to do with a pad. That's my 2 cents on that.

The only place where a pad is not really at much of a disadvantage to a wheel is at HSR...even then it depends on the car you're driving. The Jaguar at HSR was the perfect combo for pad users, except for the particularly weird line that was required at the last turn. I found that I was often as fast, if not faster through T2 up to the last corner than the fastest guys. I would just end up losing a tenth or two at the last corner though, because of how close you had to cut it to the wall, while smoothly getting on the gas at just the right time The minimal wheel spin the Jag had made it a lot easier for us pad guys. 👍

 

[nuclearfire]

I did a few laps yesterday and got up to 50 something place with the tc set on 1 but i have been now pushed to 63 as i expected once you faster guys have at it, ill probably get back in this car after WRS 18, good changing combo though

 

[foxmulder9]

Consider how imprecise the pad input can be, you are simply having amazing performance, timeattack. 👍

I'd like to see you take the GTLM for a spin around Daytona (with the 6-axis) and then try and tell me it helps you put in a faster lap time. haha. The only place where you have to change direction even remotely quick is at the bus stop chicane, and even then you don't have to be that fast with your movements. It's more important to be as precise and minimal with your movements than anything. When you cross over the rumble strips on the entry of the chicane I'm sure the wheel is a big advantage in maintaining the stability of the car. With the wheel you can be much more precise with your inputs when the suspension compresses as it crest over the rumble strips. On top of that, T1 is a terrible braking zone for pad guys, and also most of the infield corners are extremely difficult to lay power down smoothly. Lastly, it is damn hard to nail the entry and trail brake perfectly at T4 when using the pad. All your inputs must be very smooth and timed perfectly to minimize understeer, while also maintaining the ideal line through there...something that's not exactly easy to do with a pad. That's my 2 cents on that.

The only place where a pad is not really at much of a disadvantage to a wheel is at HSR...even then it depends on the car you're driving. The Jaguar at HSR was the perfect combo for pad users, except for the particularly weird line that was required at the last turn. I found that I was often as fast, if not faster through T2 up to the last corner than the fastest guys. I would just end up losing a tenth or two at the last corner though, because of how close you had to cut it to the wall, while smoothly getting on the gas at just the right time The minimal wheel spin the Jag had made it a lot easier for us pad guys. 👍

 

[crazytortise]

this is a nightmare its like trying to teach an elephant to do figure skating. im really stumped on this one. going to take all the little bits of skill i have

 

[Boffin]

Well, you're a far superior steerer to me........ i can't get anywhere with this thing, just too sensitive on throttle, and i can't left foot brake to aid the balance of the car.... it's a nightmare.

I personally think a sixaxxis would aid laptimes on this circuit with the ability to change direction so quickly from lock to lock.

well you'd think that... but this is the Spec II GT we are talking about. Sudden movements are a no no - but if you think it is an aid, you could always use a six axis (assuming you use a wheel)

 

[Mad94d]

Ok. I've made a rule change because of all the unfairness. The fairest way to do this is to make everyone submit a best lap replay that is clean in this forum after the deadline of each round. This competition is becoming very unfair, so this had to be done. Please check the rules section in the first post to see changes. Thanks.

 

[ripping_silk]

Ok. I've made a rule change because of all the confusion. The fairest way to do this is to make everyone submit a best lap replay that is clean in this forum after the deadline of each round. This competition is becoming very unfair, so this had to be done.

Sounds fair mad. How about if you are in top ten on leaderboard (and your replay is available online) you only need to submit your time.

 

[Mad94d]

Sounds fair mad. How about if you are in top ten on leaderboard (and your replay is available online) you only need to submit your time.

Yes, assuming that your time online is clean. So if you do a dirty online lap, submit your best lap that is clean. I needed to make this comp more professional because mods and myself were becoming ashamed of it.

 

[davepierce07]

Done a late 45.xxx...clean..Found 2.3 secs since the other night..It certainly takes some doing to tame this beast, especially through the bus stop....

 

[Mad94d]

Everyone take a look at the first post, much more professional and specific. Updated rules and many more things. Everyone now needs to submit a replay after each race. Sorry to anyone who has done a lap already.

 

[ripping_silk]

Yes, assuming that your time online is clean. So if you do a dirty online lap, submit your best lap that is clean. I needed to make this comp more professional because mods and myself were becoming ashamed of it.

For sure, the competition is going quite well, but now its time to step it up. A little more tweaking is all it needs to become fully respected and legitimate. Its the first time you guys have organised a series of this magnitude right? I think everyone is aware of that and we are all learning as we go.
The more people that enter each round is a fair indication of it success. And that has been going up slowly. Now I predict a nice push toward 40 or 50 regular drivers over the next few rounds. I certainly hope so anyway.

But yes regarding the rule. If your online replay is dirty and you submit that time, then you lose. You are DQ like every other 'unclean' lap (I don't like the term 'dirty' lol).
Also if you think you might get knocked out of the top ten before your online lap gets checked then you'd need to have that saved replay and submit it.
So in summary, something like this?
1. The lap must have been run between the start and finish times of that specific round.
2. Drivers must have an online lap (top 10) their submitted time, available to check up 24 hours after the round finish time.
Drivers must post their time $$$This Thread$$$, up to 48 hours before the round finish time.
OR
Drivers must post their time along with the saved replay of that time to $$This Thread$$$, up to 48 hours before the round finish time.


mad94d - I missed that you posted new rules. i was going to delete this.. but have a look anyway. And ignore if needed. I'll go and look at new rules now

 

[Mad94d]

• Basically everyone needs to save their best lap replay and post it here so people can verify it after the round is finished, like the WRS.
• If your lap is in the top ten, still save your best lap replay incase your are knocked out of the top ten.
• If your lap in the rankings is dirty(or 'unclean'), Submit your best clean lap and post that replay here. That solves the previous problem of people doing an 'unlcean' lap online that they can't beat, so they're DQ'ed.

Hope everyone likes these changes, it makes the comp more fair and I hope to see the competition keep growing.

Thanks guys:tup:

 

[foxmulder9]

nice work, mad 👍

• Basically everyone needs to save their best lap replay and post it here so people can verify it after the round is finished, like the WRS.
• If your lap is in the top ten, still save your best lap replay incase your are knocked out of the top ten.
• If your lap in the rankings is dirty(or 'unclean'), Submit your best clean lap and post that replay here. That solves the previous problem of people doing an 'unlcean' lap online that they can't beat, so they're DQ'ed.

Hope everyone likes these changes, it makes the comp more fair and I hope to see the competition keep growing.

Thanks guys:tup:

 

[osrg]

I'd like to see you take the GTLM for a spin around Daytona (with the 6-axis) and then try and tell me it helps you put in a faster lap time. haha. The only place where you have to change direction even remotely quick is at the bus stop chicane, and even then you don't have to be that fast with your movements. It's more important to be as precise and minimal with your movements than anything. When you cross over the rumble strips on the entry of the chicane I'm sure the wheel is a big advantage in maintaining the stability of the car. With the wheel you can be much more precise with your inputs when the suspension compresses as it crest over the rumble strips. :

I stand corrected on that then timeattack..... It just seemed from the outside looking in that the movement from near lock back to centre to get the power down would be an advantage.... I can see your points regarding the rest of the circiut though for sure....

Guys like yourself and Tizzla never cease to amaze me how you get those times down considering the difficulty of vehicle... And the LM is top of the tree in difficulty for sure.

 

[TiZzla]

Well, you're a far superior steerer to me........ i can't get anywhere with this thing, just too sensitive on throttle, and i can't left foot brake to aid the balance of the car.... it's a nightmare.

I personally think a sixaxxis would aid laptimes on this circuit with the ability to change direction so quickly from lock to lock.

Dude, go and get your six axxis and try any track in the GTLM its actually impossible. well for me using the x and square button for gas and brakes it was

 

[Boffin]

now theres your problem, you have to use analog sticks

mad: could you please point me to a tutorial for what you want us to do?

thanks