Evolution vs WRX
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You aren't hellping yourself out by not citing specifics. You can't just say "Evos have less hp, but they are mucyh [sic] lighter." You should also realize that comparing the Lancer Evo to the standard WRX isn't fair. Comapring the WRX STi and Lancer Evo is more fair.
Show me why the EVO is better, and I'll show you why the WRX STi is better.
Show me why the EVO is better, and I'll show you why the WRX STi is better.
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You tell em' Klossy!
...WRX STi.
...WRX STi.
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So far none of this guys posts make any sense.
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Anyway, the weight exactly the same @ 3260 lbs (curbweight). They also have .90 turning g's, though the WRX seems to have a little understeer. If you want better straightline performance, go STi, if you want handling, go Evo.
He doesnt know much about them himself, and just posted that people around here act like they know what they say...
He doesnt know much about them himself, and just posted that people around here act like they know what they say...
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Yeah, I just took his word for it for some reason. They both have a curb weight of 3263 lbs. Haha.
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why are the threads he has made been about comlaining about somthing, it is getting annoying.
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Plus the LAG with the Evo gets annoying after a while (Motor Trend, current issue, 1 year test), and they wish for a 6th gear. I would. The EVO's red on black guages are hard to read sometimes as well. I say they are about Even...
yeah. Car and Driver ( June '03) did a test with the Evo VIII and the new STi. they are pretty even. the STi is faster but the Evo VIII handles a bit better.
"With Millen at the wheel, the Mitsubishi Evo was faster, posting a 48.62-second run, during which Millen beat a top speed of 115 mph out of it. The best run in the Subaru STi was 48.89 seconds, with a top speed of 122 mph.
That the Subaru was faster on the straight and still posted a slower overall time mirrors our experience with lap times around the Streets of Willow road course. Those 29 extra ponies under the Subaru's flapping hood are for real. But the Mitsubishi was significantly faster than the STi through the corners. The understeer we noted on the track and road wasn't the problem on the dirt. Said Millen: "The Subaru just feels a lot more nervous than the Mitsubishi. I'm not as comfortable in it. Its responses are less predictable." And viewed from the passenger seat, Millen was obviously working hardershuffling the steering wheel madly to correct and recorrect his driving lineto get a decent time from the STi. This was especially true over the patchy asphalt-and-dirt portion near the finish line. Of the STi, he noted, "Power off, this car's nose drifts. When I get back on the power, it feels great. It grips and pulls strongly." Millen pinned much of these shenanigans on the unpredictable torque-sensing, limited-slip front differential and a relatively slow steering ratio, requiring bigger, slower inputs"
here's the article: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=6640
also, did anyone else know about the Evo VIII FQ 300? i just read about it in Sport Compact Car (Oct '03).
"We ordered up a UK-spec EVO VIII FQ 300 for the task. As its name suggests, the FQ 300 has been tuned to 301 hp and 300 lb-ft torque...UK cars, by the way, also conform to the Japanese specification and therefore benefit from a sixth gear."
just thought this was a cool picture
"With Millen at the wheel, the Mitsubishi Evo was faster, posting a 48.62-second run, during which Millen beat a top speed of 115 mph out of it. The best run in the Subaru STi was 48.89 seconds, with a top speed of 122 mph.
That the Subaru was faster on the straight and still posted a slower overall time mirrors our experience with lap times around the Streets of Willow road course. Those 29 extra ponies under the Subaru's flapping hood are for real. But the Mitsubishi was significantly faster than the STi through the corners. The understeer we noted on the track and road wasn't the problem on the dirt. Said Millen: "The Subaru just feels a lot more nervous than the Mitsubishi. I'm not as comfortable in it. Its responses are less predictable." And viewed from the passenger seat, Millen was obviously working hardershuffling the steering wheel madly to correct and recorrect his driving lineto get a decent time from the STi. This was especially true over the patchy asphalt-and-dirt portion near the finish line. Of the STi, he noted, "Power off, this car's nose drifts. When I get back on the power, it feels great. It grips and pulls strongly." Millen pinned much of these shenanigans on the unpredictable torque-sensing, limited-slip front differential and a relatively slow steering ratio, requiring bigger, slower inputs"
here's the article: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=6640
also, did anyone else know about the Evo VIII FQ 300? i just read about it in Sport Compact Car (Oct '03).
"We ordered up a UK-spec EVO VIII FQ 300 for the task. As its name suggests, the FQ 300 has been tuned to 301 hp and 300 lb-ft torque...UK cars, by the way, also conform to the Japanese specification and therefore benefit from a sixth gear."
just thought this was a cool picture
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Originally posted by NISM0F0
yeah. Car and Driver ( June '03) did a test with the Evo VIII and the new STi. they are pretty even. the STi is faster but the Evo VIII handles a bit better.
"With Millen at the wheel, the Mitsubishi Evo was faster, posting a 48.62-second run, during which Millen beat a top speed of 115 mph out of it. The best run in the Subaru STi was 48.89 seconds, with a top speed of 122 mph.
That the Subaru was faster on the straight and still posted a slower overall time mirrors our experience with lap times around the Streets of Willow road course. Those 29 extra ponies under the Subaru's flapping hood are for real. But the Mitsubishi was significantly faster than the STi through the corners. The understeer we noted on the track and road wasn't the problem on the dirt. Said Millen: "The Subaru just feels a lot more nervous than the Mitsubishi. I'm not as comfortable in it. Its responses are less predictable." And viewed from the passenger seat, Millen was obviously working hardershuffling the steering wheel madly to correct and recorrect his driving lineto get a decent time from the STi. This was especially true over the patchy asphalt-and-dirt portion near the finish line. Of the STi, he noted, "Power off, this car's nose drifts. When I get back on the power, it feels great. It grips and pulls strongly." Millen pinned much of these shenanigans on the unpredictable torque-sensing, limited-slip front differential and a relatively slow steering ratio, requiring bigger, slower inputs"
here's the article: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=6640
also, did anyone else know about the Evo VIII FQ 300? i just read about it in Sport Compact Car (Oct '03).
"We ordered up a UK-spec EVO VIII FQ 300 for the task. As its name suggests, the FQ 300 has been tuned to 301 hp and 300 lb-ft torque...UK cars, by the way, also conform to the Japanese specification and therefore benefit from a sixth gear."
just thought this was a cool picture
Yes, I have this issue. As said by C&D: "But we prefer to think of the WRX STi not as the loser but as the close second place finisher"...
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They don't take into account price, do they? I think the STi is about $6,000 cheaper.
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Actually they do.
Lancer Evolution 8
Base Price: $29,582
Price as Tested: $30,062
WRX STi (2004)
Base Price: $31,520
Price as Tested: $31,520
How come the WRX STi's base price is really 30,995 and the lancers is 28,987......
quite a bit off there
I'd take the imprezza..simply because the new Evo isn't as visually appealing as the past evo's...Not to mention the New Evo....is heavier than the past evo's with no more power..
quite a bit off there
I'd take the imprezza..simply because the new Evo isn't as visually appealing as the past evo's...Not to mention the New Evo....is heavier than the past evo's with no more power..
How come the WRX STi's base price is really 30,995 and the lancers is 28,987......
quite a bit off there
I'd take the imprezza..simply because the new Evo isn't as visually appealing as the past evo's...Not to mention the New Evo....is heavier than the past evo's with no more power..
quite a bit off there
I'd take the imprezza..simply because the new Evo isn't as visually appealing as the past evo's...Not to mention the New Evo....is heavier than the past evo's with no more power..
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What the hell was I talking about?! Damn, proved me wrong. Heh.
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you were only off by about $5,000
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Who was off? I got those numbers from C&D, who get their numbers from the Factory...
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Klostrophobic was off by $5,000
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And those big fugly wings.
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That's what she said! Er.
I like the look of the hood scoop and wing. The WRX wins because of the extra ponies and AWD.
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I'd figure I will rant anyway.
All I have to say to you guys is that people generally underrate SUBARU. Why? I don't know. But what I do know is that Subaru speaks of class (luxury), sport and looks.
Imprezas are my craze. And all you guys who think Imprezas are 'rubbish' think again.
Impreza types:
WRX
WRX Sti
STi P1
RB5
22B STi etc.
Just wondering, which evolution 8 comes stock with heated front bucket seats and mirrors. I the WRX STi (03-04) has.
I think Imprezas do better in crash tests than evos.
Anyway got to run
Imprezas are my craze. And all you guys who think Imprezas are 'rubbish' think again.
Impreza types:
WRX
WRX Sti
STi P1
RB5
22B STi etc.
Just wondering, which evolution 8 comes stock with heated front bucket seats and mirrors. I the WRX STi (03-04) has.
I think Imprezas do better in crash tests than evos.
Anyway got to run
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