Exeter GT Tuning (Updated with new seasonal setups)

[cbarbosa]

It could be that Camber has uses on bumpy tracks and no camber is better on flat surfaces? Could be an interesting find and help a lot of other tunes which work on one surface and are not so great on others. I was trying to tune this car without camber and it felt prone to sudden oversteer during testing. Be interested to see what you think with regards to this one.

Ok, all tests done:

• Mount Panorama - Tune camber (1.6/2.0) - 5 lap test (3rd race):

This was done during my first review of the car. As said, the car did great, huge grip and stability, dealt with the bumps greatly and no oversteer noticed (except on 1st gear accel.)

Managed a fastest lap of 2:00:8xx, clean field ahead (no opponents)

• Mount Panorama - NO camber (0.0/0.0) - 5 lap test (3rd race):

Some issues appeared, mainly on the steering response/behaviour. The car became more "clumsy", almost nervous in dealing with the bumps. The steering, in fast cornering, became more stiff and hard to control, almost like it was throwing the car away from his track. Some understeer appeared, mainly because the front tyres started to become under pressure in dealing with the corners.

So driving fast and accurate became a bit more difficult with 0/0. Regarding the oversteer, almost the same, but maybe some could be related with the more "hard" and unaccurate steering.

Managed a fastest lap of 2:03:8xx, clean field ahead (no opponents)


It is indeed a tough situation to describe, but by the sensations the zero camber gave me, I can honestly say that the tune values will do the MP4 a better car on bumps.

EDIT:

• Silverstone GP - Tune camber (1.6/2.0) - 4 lap test (1st race GT3 Series IA):

The car had the same behaviour has MPanorama. Huge grip, stability and responsive steering. No oversteer noticed, even the high 1st and low 2nd gears it was able to control it.

Managed a fastest lap of 1:57:484, clean field ahead (no opponents)

• Silverstone GP - NO camber (0.0/0.0) - 4 lap test (1st race GT3 Series IA):

Some oversteer appeared on the slowest corners. Still fast.

Managed a fastest lap of 1:58:630, clean field ahead (no opponents)

@shaunm80 - The main issue, these corners:

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Becketts and Maggotts - I agree with you, I was indeed faster, more stable on the S's with camber. No oversteer, even going threw the kerbs.

With 0/0, less effective and more sloppy approaching them, so camber is needed...

The issue is that with tune camber I was indeed faster then with 0/0, more then 1 second. If @Badger66 could have a try at Silverstone it would surely help understand this awkward behaviour...

The fact is that you are right Shaun, the car is faster and safer with camber...

 

[shaunm80]

Ok, all tests done:

• Mount Panorama - Tune camber (1.6/2.0) - 5 lap test (3rd race):

This was done during my first review of the car. As said, the car did great, huge grip and stability, dealt with the bumps greatly and no oversteer noticed (except on 1st gear accel.)

Managed a fastest lap of 2:00:8xx, clean field ahead (no opponents)

• Mount Panorama - NO camber (0.0/0.0) - 5 lap test (3rd race):

Some issues appeared, mainly on the steering response/behaviour. The car became more "clumsy", almost nervous in dealing with the bumps. The steering, in fast cornering, became more stiff and hard to control, almost like it was throwing the car away from his track. Some understeer appeared, mainly because the front tyres started to become under pressure in dealing with the corners.

So driving fast and accurate became a bit more difficult with 0/0. Regarding the oversteer, almost the same, but maybe some could be related with the more "hard" and unaccurate steering.

Managed a fastest lap of 2:03:8xx, clean field ahead (no opponents)


It is indeed a tough situation to describe, but by the sensations the zero camber gave me, I can honestly say that the tune values will do the MP4 a better car on bumps.

EDIT:

• Silverstone GP - Tune camber (1.6/2.0) - 4 lap test (1st race GT3 Series IA):

The car had the same behaviour has MPanorama. Huge grip, stability and responsive steering. No oversteer noticed, even the high 1st and low 2nd gears it was able to control it.

Managed a fastest lap of 1:57:484, clean field ahead (no opponents)

• Silverstone GP - NO camber (0.0/0.0) - 4 lap test (1st race GT3 Series IA):

Some oversteer appeared on the slowest corners. Still fast.

Managed a fastest lap of 1:58:630, clean field ahead (no opponents)

@shaunm80 - The main issue, these corners:

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Becketts and Maggotts - I agree with you, I was indeed faster, more stable on the S's with camber. No oversteer, even going threw the kerbs.

With 0/0, less effective and more sloppy approaching them, so camber is needed...

The issue is that with tune camber I was indeed faster then with 0/0, more then 1 second. If @Badger66 could have a try at Silverstone it would surely help understand this awkward behaviour...

The fact is that you are right Shaun, the car is faster and safer with camber...

You found exactly what I found.. I think the issue is how people deal with no camber tunes. Some people prefer cars without camber but I know from experience that I can't drive certain cars without camber set up on it. This isn't the first time camber has been debated. It boils down to one thing. Driver preference. I would never say that camber is faster than no camber. end of story... as this really isn't true. It seems PD have still got a messed up camber system which is hit and miss as to whether it works as it should do.

I can clearly see where @Badger66 is coming from, and in many ways, i agree with him. Likewise, My own tune is what I prefer as it allows greater stability and speed for me. Just you you have found it in your test. Thank you for doing this test, it just cements my belief that PD need to resolve this issue out for good in GT7. It isn't very constructive to tuners to have a system which only works on certain cars.

 

[cbarbosa]

You found exactly what I found.. I think the issue is how people deal with no camber tunes. Some people prefer cars without camber but I know from experience that I can't drive certain cars without camber set up on it. This isn't the first time camber has been debated.

Absolutely! And it is an issue that I believe cannot be proved. Players have different techniques and styles of driving that cannot be considered standard. As this car has proven, it performs in many ways.

It seems PD have still got a messed up camber system which is hit and miss as to whether it works as it should do.

Despite being firmely assured by them that it has been fixed...

Thank you for doing this test, it just cements my belief that PD need to resolve this issue out for good in GT7. It isn't very constructive to tuners to have a system which only works on certain cars.

👍 Indeed, along with some other issues that are, to say the least, weird, like a high ride height seems to fix understeer/oversteer in certain cars...

SRT Viper SRT10 ACR '08

650PP
748 BHP
1250kgs
Weight Distribution 50:50

Sports Soft Tyres
Change Oil
Flat Floor Type A

BTW, your ACR still rocks!!

IA License|600PP (650PP) WTCC Mount Panorama|Sports Soft|Winner! 👍

It surprised me! On SS, has huge grip, no oversteer and speed. Along with that huge bonnet it looks like a missile, ready to get his target!

Great tune!

 

[shaunm80]

Lotus Esprit Sport 350 '00

550PP
468 BHP
1150kgs
Weight Distribution 47:53

Sports Soft Tyres

NO Oil Change
Inch Up: 1 Wheels

FC Suspension
F/R
100/105
8.00/13.00
5/4
4/3
1/3
1.5/1.0
-0.05/0.06

Racing Brake Kit
6/7

FC Transmission
Set final gear to 5.000
Set max speed to 112mph
1st 2.830
2nd 2.126
3rd 1.676
4th 1.356
5th 1.142
Set final gear to 2.760
(Adjust final gear to suit track)

FC LSD
12/15/18
Triple Plate Clutch

Set power limiter to 100.0%
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Exhaust
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Bonnet
Ballast - Set 76kgs to Position -50

Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.

 

[shaunm80]

Lotus Esprit Sport 350 '00 (Drift Setup)

550PP
449 BHP
1100kgs
Weight Distribution 45:55

Comfort Hard Tyres

NO Oil Change
Inch Up: 1 Wheels

FC Suspension
F/R
105/110
5.50/7.50
4/5
3/6
2/3
1.5/1.0
-0.05/0.06

Racing Brake Kit
1/8

FC Transmission
Set final gear to 5.000
Set max speed to 112mph
1st 2.830
2nd 2.122
3rd 1.677
4th 1.357
5th 1.142
Set final gear to 4.390

FC LSD
45/50/10
Triple Plate Clutch

Set power limiter to 96.0%
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Exhaust
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Bonnet
Ballast - Set 26kgs to Position -50

Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.

 

[Badger66]

@shaunm80 and @cbarbosa i agree with you both that the car is definitely more stable and faster with the Camber as i said that it was so much quicker and more responsive on Mount Panorama and 00 00 just didn't work as good...there was a 2-3 sec's difference in both on lap times.

And your tune with the camber felt safe...very fast and a pleasure to drive on the GP/F circuit...but i got faster lap times without camber on this particular track....which is so confusing...because by rights the lap times should of been quicker with camber.

For race seasonals i will use your tune with camber and that's a must because it's spot on....but if a time trial comes up on the GP/F circuit with the right PP then i will use your tune with 00 00 camber and see if i can get a better time than with camber....👍

And yes PD does need to sort this issue out.

In the end this tune is very fast...very stable and i love it...whatever camber settings we use...cheers guys..

 

[shaunm80]

Lotus Esprit V8 '02 (Drift Setup)

525PP
433 BHP
1185kgs
Weight Distribution 48:52

Comfort Hard Tyres

NO Oil Change
Aero Kit Type A
Inch Up: 1 Wheels

FC Suspension
F/R
100/105
7.60/5.70
5/4
4/7
2/3
2.0/1.8
-0.28/0.33

Racing Brake Kit
1/8

FC Transmission
Set final gear to 5.000
Set max speed to 124mph
1st 2.586
2nd 1.937
3rd 1.507
4th 1.209
5th 1.019
Set final gear to 4.970

FC LSD
45/50/10
Triple Plate Clutch

Set power limiter to 95.8%
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Intake Tuning

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Bonnet
Ballast - Set 45kgs to Position -50

Tuned with ABS 1 only.

 

[shaunm80]

@chrisspeed281 How are you doing Chris? Hope everything went well and your stay in hospital is going okay.

 

[chrisspeed281]

@chrisspeed281 How are you doing Chris? Hope everything went well and your stay in hospital is going okay.

The Surgery was successful and I'm well prepared for Halloween

 

[shaunm80]

The Surgery was successful and I'm well prepared for Halloween

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Good news that the surgery was a success. I see you have the Frankenstein stitches looking perfect there. how long till you are discharged from the hospital? Have you been practising your driving technique on grid 2 ready for your return?

 

[chrisspeed281]

Good news that the surgery was a success. I see you have the Frankenstein stitches looking perfect there. how long till you are discharged from the hospital? Have you been practising your driving technique on grid 2 ready for your return?

Sitting and play is not so easy now but i'm told i can go home in about one week

 

[shaunm80]

Sitting and play is not so easy now but i'm told i can go home in about one week

Thats good to hear. No more surgery or post operative treatments required now then?

 

[shaunm80]

Lotus Esprit V8 '02

550PP
507 BHP
1220kgs
Weight Distribution 49:51

Sports Soft Tyres

NO Oil Change
Aero Kit Type A
Inch Up: 1 Wheels

FC Suspension
F/R
100/105
9.50/9.50
5/4
4/5
2/3
1.0/1.4
-0.05/0.04

Racing Brake Kit
6/7

FC Transmission
Set final gear to 5.000
Set max speed to 124mph
1st 2.586
2nd 1.932
3rd 1.497
4th 1.207
5th 1.019
Set final gear to 3.080
(Adjust final gear to suit track, Apply gear settings before added the turbo in the power part)

FC LSD
12/14/18
Triple Plate Clutch

Set power limiter to 99.5%
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Intake Tuning
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Bonnet
Ballast - Set 80kgs to Position -50

Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.

This car is a wild child. Treat it nice, drive it smooth and it will repay you with nice times. Start to go a little crazy and it will show you who can be the craziest in a crazy competition. Enjoy

 

[shaunm80]

Lotus Esprit V8 GT '98 (Drift Setup)

550PP
506 BHP
1150kgs
Weight Distribution 46:54

Comfort Hard Tyres

NO Oil Change
Inch Up: 1 Wheels

FC Suspension
F/R
80/85
7.00/6.75
5/5
4/6
1/3
0.0/0.0
-0.24/0.32

Racing Brake Kit
1/8

FC Transmission
Set final gear to 5.000
Set max speed to 124mph
1st 2.721
2nd 2.051
3rd 1.583
4th 1.270
5th 1.072
Set final gear to 4.550

FC LSD
45/50/10
Triple Plate Clutch

Set power limiter to 98.6%
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Computer
Sports Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter Sports
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Bonnet
Ballast - Set 56kgs to Position -50

Tuned with ABS 1 only.

Be careful with this car. You'll develop a smoking habit once you've driven this turbo'd beast.

 

[cbarbosa]

Amuse S2000 GT1 '04

571PP
564 BHP
1180kgs
Weight Dist 50:50

Sports Soft Tyres

IA License | 550PP (600PP) WTCC Race 3 Mount Panorama | Winner! 👍​

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This car has excellent handling and a lot of speed. Easy to control around bends and excellent grip all round.

Confirmed!

 

[Pete05]

Once again, no notifications from this thread since Saturday.
This is starting to test my patience

 

[shaunm80]

Once again, no notifications from this thread since Saturday.
This is starting to test my patience

Have you unselected and re-selected the notifications you want. Sometimes this can refresh its memory to keep doing it.

 

[LordJCS]

Time to fire up the 'ol faithful ps3 to see if improvement is needed on the seasonals.

 

[cbarbosa]

Ferrari California ‘08

550PP
487 BHP
1350kgs
Weight Distribution 49:51


Sports Soft Tyres

I am not sure if this car had an oil change or not. When setting up this car:
Add power parts first, weight reduction and additional ballast next and check that the PP matches what is stated for this tune. If it is incorrect, change oil otherwise leave it as it is.

Without oil change, it allows 548PP and 5BHP less then the tune... 100% Limiter 👍

 

[LordJCS]

@shaunm80

10-15 runs at nurb seasonal with your Ferrari 458 (550pp tune) and haven't lost a single race so far.. Best lap so far was a 6:57.638.

This tune has got me more excited about pasta rockets. Well done, well done indeed my good Sir.

 

[shaunm80]

@shaunm80

10-15 runs at nurb seasonal with your Ferrari 458 (550pp tune) and haven't lost a single race so far.. Best lap so far was a 6:57.638.

This tune has got me more excited about pasta rockets. Well done, well done indeed my good Sir.

Excellent. I put some extra effort into the 458 tunes as it is one of my favourite cars in the game. Nice to know its competitive on the ring. Not my greatest test track but it worked well on other tracks when I was creating this hidden gem.

 

[LordJCS]

Excellent. I put some extra effort into the 458 tunes as it is one of my favourite cars in the game. Nice to know its competitive on the ring. Not my greatest test track but it worked well on other tracks when I was creating this hidden gem.

It doesn't have the top speed on the straights like the "bigger" cars do but it makes up for it on the twisty bits like a champ. The car handles the bumps like an iron sorting out wrinkles on your finest dress shirt. It's like they vanish at the mere sight of the car. A strange experience tbh.

A 6:57.278 is my new best time with it.. Now it's just a matter of fine tuning the final gear to see if i can get a bit more speed out of it..

Thanks for providing such an entertaining tune.

 

[Pete05]

Have you unselected and re-selected the notifications you want. Sometimes this can refresh its memory to keep doing it.

Tried that before & it works for a while but then it looses it's memory again. Sent a message to Jordan about this.
Got this message ok so if someone knows what's going on, they're better informed than me.

 

[danbojte]

I'm so stupid. I forgot the pictures at home.

 

[shaunm80]

I'm so stupid. I forgot the pictures at home.

What pictures?

 

[danbojte]

What pictures?

Pictures that I regularly use for feedback.

 

[shaunm80]

@Badger66 - You getting your tuning gloves out again? A new FITT contest you may be interested in. It is the British Invasion FITT link. Also, haven't seen you around much lately, hope your doing okay and everything going well.

Edit: @LordJCS - I think its about time that you entered one of these FITT competitions.. You have skills in this department.. Care to throw your dice in the ring and see what comes out?

 

[Badger66]

@Badger66 - You getting your tuning gloves out again? A new FITT contest you may be interested in. It is the British Invasion FITT link. Also, haven't seen you around much lately, hope your doing okay and everything going well.

Edit: @LordJCS - I think its about time that you entered one of these FITT competitions.. You have skills in this department.. Care to throw your dice in the ring and see what comes out?

Hi @shaunm80 it's all good thanks mate..hope all's good with you...👍

i've been spending some much needed quality time with me lady....and i'm really busy at the moment too...but will have a look at the FITT Challenge and see if can fit some time in for it...thanks for letting me know..👍

And @LordJCS you should have a go at the FITT....you should rock at this..👍

@chrisspeed281 Glad your OP went ok mate....i bet you can't wait to get home in a weeks time...good for you...take care and hope it goes quickly for you Buddy...

@Pete05...How's you..hope all's is good...i've been having problems too with notifications..i have only received 1 i think since the weekend....i wonder what is happening with them...

Cheers guys...👍

 

[shaunm80]

A Spec Seasonal Races (Updated 30/10/14)

Its that time again and you all know the drill by now. If you don't, where have you been for the past 6 months? As per normal, if you use a tune from my garage for any of the new seasonal races, let me know so I can add it to the lists.

Beginner Level Compact Car Challenge - Tsukuba Circuit 400PP SH
Abarth 500 '09 (400PP SH)
Abarth Grande Punto '09 (400pp CS)
Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4T Sport '09 (402PP CS) - FITT Tune - Detune Power Limiter to meet PP.
Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4T Sport '09 (400PP SH)
Audi TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro '00 (400PP CS)
Audi TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro '00 (400PP SH)
Fiat 500 1.2 8V Lounge SS '08 (350PP CS) - no power upgrades applied
Ford Ka '01 (350PP CM)
Honda Civic Type R (EP, EU) ‘01 (400PP CS)
Honda Civic Type R (EK) '98 (400PP CS)
Honda CRZ '10 (400PP CS)
Honda Fit W '01 (350PP CM)
Lotus Elise '00 (400PP SH)
Lotus Elise '96 (400PP CS)
Lotus Elise Type 72 '01 (400PP SH)
Mazda Demio Sport '10 (400PP CS)
Mazda Demio Sport '10 (400PP SH)
MG TF160 '03 (400PP SH)
Mini Cooper 1.3i '98 (350PP CS)
Mini Cooper S '02 (400PP CS)
Mini Cooper S '05 (400PP CS)
Mini Cooper S '05 (400PP SH)
Nissan March 12SR '07 (350PP CS)
Opel Speedster Turbo '00 (450PP SH - Detuned to meet PP)
Peugeot 206 CC '01 (400PP SH)
Renault Megane 2.0 IDE Coupe '00 (400PP CS)
Renault Megane 2.0 IDE Coupe '00 (400PP SH)
Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11 (400PP SH)
Renault Sport Clio R.S. 2.0 16V '02 (400PP CS)
Suzuki Swift Sport '05 (350PP CS)
Toyota MR2 Spyder (6MT) '02 (400PP CS)
Vauxhall Corsa Comfort 1.4 '01 (350PP CS)
Vauxhall Tigra 1.6i '99 (350PP CS)
Volkswagon Golf I GTI '76 (400PP CS)
VW Lupo GTI '01 (350PP CS)

Intermediate Level Night Track Challenge - Special Stage Route 5 500PP SS
Audi TTS Coupe '09 (500PP SH)
Ferrari 458 Italia '09 (500PP SS)
Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71 (450PP SS) no changes to tune
Honda Civic Type R (EP, EU) ‘01 (400PP CS) - 3rd place finish.. but still impressive.
Honda Civic Type R (EP, EU) ‘01 (450PP CS)
Honda S2000 (EU) '03 (450PP SH)
Jaguar XK Coupe Luxury '07 (450PP SH) - No changes to tune
Land Rover Range Rover Evoque Coupe Dynamic '13 (500PP SH)
Lotus Elise '00 (450PP SS)
Lotus Elise Type 72 '01 (500PP SS)
Mazda Demio Sport '10 (438PP SH Pete05 Version)
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07 (450PP SH)
Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34) '08 (500PP SS)
Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07 (450PP SH)
Nissan GT-R V-Spec II Nur (R34) ‘02 (500PP SS)
Opel Speedster Turbo '00 (450PP SH) - No changes to tune
Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11 (500PP SS)
Volkswagon Golf VI R '10 (450PP SH) - power parts added and SS tyres.

Expert Level Ferrari Challenge - Ascari Full Track 550PP SS
Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto CN.2521 '61 (450PP SH) - No added parts, a win at 450PP.
Ferrari 430 '06 (550PP SM)
Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 (550PP SS)
Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 (600PP SS - Detuned to 550PP)
Ferrari 458 Italia '09 (550PP SS)
Ferrari 458 Italia '09 (600PP SS - Detuned to 550PP)
Ferrari 512BB '76 (550PP SH)
Ferrari 599 '06 (550PP SS)
Ferrari California '08 (550PP SS)
Ferrari Enzo '02 (550PP SS)
Ferrari Enzo '02 (600PP SS - Detuned to 550PP)
Ferrari GTO ‘84 (550PP SS)
Ferrari SP1 '08 (550PP SS)

Many thanks again.

 

[LordJCS]

A Spec Seasonal Races (Updated 30/10/14)

View attachment 247003

Its that time again and you all know the drill by now. If you don't, where have you been for the past 6 months? As per normal, if you use a tune from my garage for any of the new seasonal races, let me know so I can add it to the lists.

Beginner Level Compact Car Challenge - Tsukuba Circuit 400PP SH



Intermediate Level Night Track Challenge - Special Stage Route 5 500PP SS



Expert Level Ferrari Challenge - Ascari Full Track 550PP SS


Many thanks again.

Well.. Here's a few tunes that i think will come in handy.

400pp compact car:

The cars below, even being on CS should work just as good as if they were on SH. Should you feel the need to switch to SH on them, it shouldn't pose any problem since the cars are well ballanced and well mannered.
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Abarth Grande Punto '09 (400pp CS) P4 +105
Mini Cooper S '02 (400PP CS) P73 + 2180
Honda CRZ '10 (400PP CS) P10 +277
Mini Cooper S '05 (400PP CS) P3 +66
Lotus Elise '96 (400PP CS) P10 +290
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And for good measure. How about a hairdresser's car?

MG TF160 '03 (400PP SH) P121 +3602
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500pp Night challenge.

Here's where it gets easy imho. Just pick any car from the mahoosive list that Shaun has provided us.

Too many cars in there to specify a a couple of them, they deserve more. So have a look at the list from the first page of this garage thread. I'm sure there's something there that might strike your fancy.

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550pp Ferrari Challenge.

Shaun. I just have to ask. It's almost as you knew this event was about to come, did you?! Yes, i'm referring to the 458 tune you made, and i enjoyed driving on the greenest hell known to man.
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Happy racing!