F1 cars in GT4

[Eagle]

There was FCYY/D as the format, F for Formula one, C for the cylinders (6 for 6, 0 for 10), YY for the ear of competition (86 for 1986), and D for the driver, Senna, Hill or Mansell as stated.

I get the feeling most people enjoyed using F1 cars so much they will return actually. I still happily race my Toyota GT-ONE around along with a bunch of other cars but when I'm after a quick, fun blast, the F1 cars are great. I can see a lot of other people sympathising.

 

[Darin]

Actually, Sony could use any of them, including Ferrari's. Sony own the official FIA Formula 1 license which means everything Formula 1 is Sony's to use. However I don't think we'll see currentreal F1 cars in GT4 simply because Sony will want to milk that license and produce one or two official F1 games before the licese goes to the next company that bids high enough.

Sony don't own it, EA does. I haven't seen 1 sony game featuring the real up to date F1 game.

Even though they could get the Ferrari S.P.A. car easily. If you remember, Fiat designed the exterior, but not the engine.

 

[Aveiro-F1]

Sony don't own it, EA does. I haven't seen 1 sony game featuring the real up to date F1 game.

Even though they could get the Ferrari S.P.A. car easily. If you remember, Fiat designed the exterior, but not the engine.

Formula One 2000, 2001, 2002. I think 2002 or 2003, one of those was the last one.

 

[Sven]

You obviously missed Formula 1 2003, and Formula 1 2004 is set to launch in a few weeks from what I've gathered from GTP members

Yeah, IN EUROPE!

 

[GT-One Lover]

doesn´t matter if there´s no licensed F1 racecar!!! PD (hopefully)will make the DIFFERENCE between GT-racecars and F1 cars clear as it was in GT3!!! remember? don´t forget the FEELING when u drove for example a JGTC or GT1 Racecar and then went for a RIDE with a F1 car!!! this f1 in GT3 just rock(with their 900 ps/hp)!!! :> mush...

 

[Dave A]

Sony don't own it, EA does. I haven't seen 1 sony game featuring the real up to date F1 game.

Even though they could get the Ferrari S.P.A. car easily. If you remember, Fiat designed the exterior, but not the engine.

Sony secured the rights at the end of last year for the 2004-2006 or 2007 season of F1. Sony hasn't made a game yet but I expect there to be one in the making now. EA don't own the rights the F1 anymore.

 

[phantasm]

I think we'll see F1 cars back in the game... which IMO is great... they were really fun to drive. Although i agree that they should be limited as to what races they can be used in (i feel that there should be a lot of class limitations implemented, will be 1 way of improving the challenge of GT and lessening the crappy performance of the AI from GT3 - that's of course assuming it hasn't been massively overhauled for GT4, and even though it's been promised i'm taking the wait and see approach).

 

[Darin]

GT3 AI is pretty good if you race a car of their class and performance.

 

[Iceman]

The inclusion of F1 cars would be a great addition to Gt4 if they are given their own races and not permitted in other races. That just ruins the whole challenge and fun of the game and i think is the reason many people get bored of the game.

 

[Uncle Harry]

If GT4 doesn't have F1 cars, I'm afraid GT3 will still be getting more use. Now I'm not saying they are the only cars that are fun, but not being able to let out on the sunday cup in a Formula One car will be a big let down for me, challenge just gets too stressful sometimes.

A stock standard MX5 easily wins the Sunday cup. How can the challange off the Sunday Cup be stressfull? The Challange of racing similar cars against each other is what makes the game.
Why would you re-run the Sunday Cup races anyway in an F1? Surely not for the prize money? Wouldn't you run races that gave a better cash prize? With the F1 you should be a certain winner in every race it can enter.
I do agree with you that the F1 cars are fun to drive but using them for the easiest race in the game is a bit lame.

Using a F1 car against road cars is a non event.
At least lets hope PD limits the use of F1's in GT4 to race against other F1's, GT style cars and maybe the Dream car races. That would at least provide some challange.

 

[Eagle]

People have said this before, but there's no one forcing you to use these cars to complete the game. There was not a single race you could not win with a car other than an F1 machine. If you don't like using them, don't, but leave others free to, for the most part at least - I'm in favour of more restricted championships, but not outright lockdown.

 

[Uncle Harry]

People have said this before, but there's no one forcing you to use these cars to complete the game. There was not a single race you could not win with a car other than an F1 machine. If you don't like using them, don't, but leave others free to, for the most part at least - I'm in favour of more restricted championships, but not outright lockdown.

Eagle, just wondering if you are answering me our iceman shooter?
If it was me I never said for a total lockdown on F1's. I have used F1's to easily win a series event when trying for all prize cars but it does make the game very easy and takes away any challange. Using them in the easiest race of the game should not be allowed.
(Eagle it may help if you use the "quote reply tab" when replying to a specific post to stop any confusion).
Sure beats telling people to use the search button 👍

 

[Eagle]

I was replying at iceman, wasn't aware there was a need to quote as I thought my post would follow on. It was however also a generalised statement so to direct it at one person might have lost the focus I wanted on it. I also try to avoid quoting as much as possible because it clutters threads when people quote giant slabs of text - happens often enough as is, I try to do it when I need too.

 

[L1ama]

F1 cars ruin the game, unless there will be F1 events and restrictions to use it in normal car races

 

[Eagle]

F1 cars are just a novelty. They're fast, their fun, they build on the fact that most people don't know what GT car is but have a prayer of knowing F1. It's not like we're short on normal and GT cars.

 

[L1ama]

F1 cars are fun to race, but some people like to abuse them, and finish the whole game using them, which is very easy to do, but time consuming

 

[yeti]

I think one of the only races that the F1 couldn't win was the "Like the wind" race...

And that was because you couldn't take it's gears high enough to beat an Escudo.

C.

 

[l33tc4k30fd00m]

People have said this before, but there's no one forcing you to use these cars to complete the game. There was not a single race you could not win with a car other than an F1 machine. If you don't like using them, don't, but leave others free to, for the most part at least - I'm in favour of more restricted championships, but not outright lockdown.

Thank you!

Sometimes I think I'm the only one who sees it that way.

 

[phantasm]

It's an interesting paradox... a lot of people complain about the challenge of GT, but i'm also sure many of them also used far superior cars to defeat the opposition and complete the game. While i agree with the statement, it is your choice to use the car you want in the races, i think that most would use the best possible car available... i mean, that's part of racing isn't it? Get the best car you can against the competition to win the race.

I'll admit, the first time through some of the series as soon as i had the F1 car i took it out to crush the competition and collect my trophies and $, but now going through most of the game again and trying all kinds of different cars and matching the competition more, i found much more enjoyment out of the game and it made me a better GT driver as i had to race well to win.

As for what i'd like to see in GT4... i think i'm more inline with Eagle and l33tc... not outright restrictions for all races but definitely placing some limitations on all the race series and even a few restricted championships (like an LMR series where you can only use LMR cars, and a DTM one, JTGC, etc). I definitely don't think you should be able to put a 600hp car in the Sunday Cup, 590hp maybe, but not 600

 

[GT-One Lover]

hope u can change the TIRES of the F1 cars in GT4!!

 

[GTdude]

I agree with Eagle and l33t. If anything, the Formula 1 cars are just an added bonus when you get into the latter stages of the game. You don't have to use it if you don't want to. I have one myself, but only use it in the Formula GT and 2-player battle (against other F1 cars). Using F1 cars to win races easily doesn't say anything about the game being cheap or unfair, but rather says something about the player who races them.

It might be pushing the bounds of what Gran Turismo is really all about, but it would be cool see more F1 races and cars (especially licensed one), and to limit the F1 cars' uses to just those races. Maybe I'm just an avid fan who's waiting for a good F1 game to come out for the PS2.

 

[Uncle Harry]

hope u can change the TIRES of the F1 cars in GT4!!

At least make them last longer than 5-7 laps as they did in GT3.
Maybe that was PD's idea of equaling out the performance advantage over the other race cars which could get 20 laps out of there tyres. Did not seem to work.

 

[Eagle]

I heard that they were locked on mediums for that reason, but they're miles faster than the best cars GT had to offer regardless, so I'd rather if they return, we get to use them to the limit like every other car.

 

[heero 12]

A stock standard MX5 easily wins the Sunday cup. How can the challange off the Sunday Cup be stressfull? The Challange of racing similar cars against each other is what makes the game.
Why would you re-run the Sunday Cup races anyway in an F1? Surely not for the prize money? Wouldn't you run races that gave a better cash prize? With the F1 you should be a certain winner in every race it can enter.
I do agree with you that the F1 cars are fun to drive but using them for the easiest race in the game is a bit lame.

Using a F1 car against road cars is a non event.
At least lets hope PD limits the use of F1's in GT4 to race against other F1's, GT style cars and maybe the Dream car races. That would at least provide some challange.

Trying to gold the S license is what is too stressful in this game, F1s have saved a controller more than once.

 

[GT-One Lover]

will there be F1 cars with 7 GEARS???...hope so....but what about the TIRES??
in GT3 u could only drive slicks in GT4 perhaps tires with profile as it is in the formular one today?)

 

[phantasm]

At least make them last longer than 5-7 laps as they did in GT3.
Maybe that was PD's idea of equaling out the performance advantage over the other race cars which could get 20 laps out of there tyres. Did not seem to work.

i think you're on the right track, but i think the main reason they lasted 10-11 laps tops (if you drive cleanly you can get that many laps on most tracks with those tires) is that most of the races were less that 15 laps... i think this is one of those, it is still a game, we want tire wear but not just in enduro's.

as for GT-One Lover's tire comment... remember that in 94 and prior F1 cars had full slicks and not the grooved tires of a few years ago, but yes if they have up-to-date F1 cars, they should also have the current tires.

 

[Jay]

People have said this before, but there's no one forcing you to use these cars to complete the game. There was not a single race you could not win with a car other than an F1 machine. If you don't like using them, don't, but leave others free to, for the most part at least - I'm in favour of more restricted championships, but not outright lockdown.

I also agree 100%. Its like other games that have cheats (god mode etc), They are there but you dont have to use them.

 

[Effo_Nienforr_S]

This is for everyone who is opposed to F1 cars.

I want you to explain to me, why my game has to be limited just because you have some issue with F1 cars.

Secondly, I would really like to understand what your problem with F1 cars really is.

Play the game your own way, and I will play it mine. WHY do you care how I play? How is that your business? What does it have to do with you?

True story: I accidentally saved my game over my roomates game, and I had to fix it. With the F094/s it only took a few days. With the restrictions you guys are talking, it would have taken so much longer, I would probably still be working on it. (okay not really, but it would have taken waaaay longer, and it would have sucked royally)

Reason #2: My 10-year-old nephew is not very good at this game, and being able race F1's against Miata's is important, because otherwise, he might never win a race, and would probably give up and hate the game.

Reason 3-5: Sometimes I just want a quick fix, or maybe I just have an urge to beat up on the JGTC's. Sometimes its fun to race a short beginner race in an F1 because maybe I like running an obstacle course. There are plenty of reasons to NOT restrict, and I haven't seen a single good argument for it. If you don't like how I play, then make your own rules on your own game, not mine.

BTW, I don't 'cheat' by using F1's. If I was a cheater, I would have used the gameshark to Gold my licenses, or at least the S8.

 

[l33tc4k30fd00m]

^ Exactly. Said it better than I could.

You even reminded me of a thing I did a few times to relieve the boredom of repeating some races trying to get a car I wanted (note, I never use the reload "cheat"). I used to use the PD001 and see how many times I could lap all the other cars. Not really exciting but it helped.

 

[Dave A]

You make a good point, however I think that a lot of the races should have restrictions, not all but a lot of them be it Bhp limits, weight limits, tyre compounds ect. The game should not be designed with saving over other peoples cards in mind, thats your problem and it shouldn't affect the rest of us.