Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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thehawk05
If it happens I would bank on it.....Thomas and Fanatec don't strike me as a company that would alienate customers by not offering such a kit. From what I can from the pics the basic components are unchanged....aka the pedals and their holes are the same. Basically the mods here consist of a couple brackets, a different "cell" block on the clutch, a new bracket for the load cell adjustment knob to allow mounting the shock, some various pivot mounts and spacer arrangement for the front anchor shaft. All stuff that could easily be bundled in a kit
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It looks feasible doesn't it and the video showing it being fitted is straight forward enough isn't it
 
To use a popular quote which was used often for Duke Forever... "when it's done". lol
 
Well, I hope that (if there is a V2) that you can preform the modifications without disassembling the pedals. I've got my set inverted, on a set of wood, bolted to my rig so that doesn't really bid out well if I have to change up the internals. From what it looks like, I don't think you will need to change all the internals, it all looks like you can do it from the outside.

I'll go take some pictures to show you the impossible. :lol:
 
Crispy
Well, I hope that (if there is a V2) that you can preform the modifications without disassembling the pedals. I've got my set inverted, on a set of wood, bolted to my rig so that doesn't really bid out well if I have to change up the internals. From what it looks like, I don't think you will need to change all the internals, it all looks like you can do it from the outside.

I'll go take some pictures to show you the impossible. :lol:
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Agreed.
 
I was thinking of buying CSW when it comes out, but now that I think about the money to be invested, I have to consider to wait for next gen consoles to come out. It would suck if 450+150€ investment would not work with PS4.
 
That's a fair point, Raitziger. Sony wouldn't be so short sighted. I can't think of a reason why we'd have to have a new protocol for having the controllers link with the new consoles. At least the PS3 supports standard USB peripherals, so PS4 is a safe bet, though until it ships we won't know for sure.

Whatever you get will still work with PCs though, so at least there's that.
 
Mr Latte
Do you think their could be a future Tuning Kit V2?

We have discussed RC car shocks in the past and certainly on the T500RS threads.
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That would be crazy. The tuning options would be almost limitless. Different weight oils, pistons, springs. If you couldn't get your pedals exactly how you want them, then it would be your own fault. That's not a bad idea, but it would be pretty maitnance heavy. I know my RC car needs the oil in the shocks changed after almost every race day. Then you would have to worry about the orings and bladders going bad, but really anyone who is going to take it that far, will like doing the maitnance anyway. I don't think i would go that route, because I'm getting to the point where I dread having to work on my rc cars shocks, but it would be really fun for some people, and I'm sure it wouldn't need done near as often as with an RC car.

They already use electric RC car motors in these wheels, why not shocks in the pedals :)
 
Raitziger
I was thinking of buying CSW when it comes out, but now that I think about the money to be invested, I have to consider to wait for next gen consoles to come out. It would suck if 450+150€ investment would not work with PS4.
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Theres another post from amf1 entitled "Fanatec Q and A" or something, and that was exactly my question, as was the same for a few others - worried about backward compatability of pedals on a new console (Sony or Microsoft). We're still waiting to hear the answers on this as well. Supposedly Darren from Inside Sim Racing will be handling the answers sometime... I'm not laying any money out until I get confirmation either, thats a lot of money for a wheel - Even thought I only play consoles, I better to get at least 4 years out of it!
 
lemansfanatic
I'm not laying any money out until I get confirmation...
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You're not gonna get it. Next gen consoles aren't going to be seen until 2013 and knowing Microsoft and how they work they aren't going to tip their hat this early in the game to anybody yet in terms of where they are going with how the next Xbox will handle wireless connection to controllers and wheels and even if they have told peripheral makers they will be sworn to secrecy. I think odds are good Sony will stick to USB though.
 
I agree. If you want a guarantee, you'll have to wait until the new consoles are on retail shelves. Look at the features that changed on the PS3 between concept and final release.
 
12thgear
I agree. If you want a guarantee, you'll have to wait until the new consoles are on retail shelves. Look at the features that changed on the PS3 between concept and final release.
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Yeah but usb is practically the same since PS2.
 
paskowitz
Yeah but usb is practically the same since PS2.
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USB isn't the same since it came out. We has USB version 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 and now 3.0. I reckon the last will be used on next gen consoles because of a high data output as well as a power output that can even power a laptop. Also every version of USB is backwards compatible, so you can easily plug in a USB 2.0 wheel.
Just to clarify further USB isn't a protocol just a standardized connection. A protocol for game controllers in general would be HID or XID. Google them if you want to dig into the matter further.
So it all depends on which protocol is used on the new generation consoles, which we end users won't know until after trial and error when we buy one of them. CSW supports HID only where as the CSR E and other Xbox compatible Fanatec wheels also support XID next to HID.
 
I am aware of the two protocols. Amar did a massive write up about them. So as long as the PS4 uses some form of USB and HID, there really shouldn't be a problem with the CSW? Same deal with the NextBox/PS4 and the CSRE/CSR/GT2 etc?
 
paskowitz
I am aware of the two protocols. Amar did a massive write up about them. So as long as the PS4 uses some form of USB and HID, there really shouldn't be a problem with the CSW? Same deal with the NextBox/PS4 and the CSRE/CSR/GT2 etc?
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Where is that write up mate.
That's one of the questions I've asked about.

Cheers.
 
thehawk05
You're not gonna get it. Next gen consoles aren't going to be seen until 2013 and knowing Microsoft and how they work they aren't going to tip their hat this early in the game to anybody yet in terms of where they are going with how the next Xbox will handle wireless connection to controllers and wheels and even if they have told peripheral makers they will be sworn to secrecy. I think odds are good Sony will stick to USB though.
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The rumors are that they are in developement right now and that we should hear or see solid evidence of a late 2012 release. We won't know for sure until E3 2012 (June 5). I can't see any other data transfer used besides USB right now, even though Apple is really pushing its "Thunderbolt" tech, what are the odds of this being adopted by Microsoft? Wow i just realized that developers and programmers have said that same statement about Apple products for decades "What are the odds that this doohickey becomes industry standard?"... umm pretty good usually. As for your statement about peripheral makers swarn to secrecy, i get it but they don't have to tell how it will be compatable as long as they say it will, thats all we care about. Fanatec can say "we've spoken to Microsoft and Sony and our CSW will be compatible" without giving any secrets away. The only shock would be if the next gen consoles don't have a usb port at all which would be completly rediculous even if they wanted to utilize a new type of data port for main input.
 
I think there is absolutely no way Thunderbolt will be used for connecting controllers ;) A few points:
1. It's Intel's technology (Apple collaborated) and I didn't hear anything about Intel's processors being in new consoles.
2.Too expensive technology for such simple purpose that requires little bandwidth
3. Too expensive cables
 
For the sake of everyone who is going to buy fanatec clubsport wheels, i hope you're right! (allthough i do think that it will be standard someday, if not on the next gen consoles, then the ones after). Also, its not unheard of that the next gen consoles won't be using intel chipset...
 
It would be a huge surprise if Thunderbolt port was on there and even if it was, it would be on the back of the console for very special purposes that require high bandwidth. One port is enough, because it supports both hubs and daisy chaining.
Using Thunderbolt to connect a controller would be like building an 8 lane highway from your porch to the street you live on :D - makes no sense.
 
Have you seen the Wii U controller? Wireless handheld HD displays, coupled to smartphone inputs, wireless wheels, all running at the same time. No offense but there were people who thought USB would be all we'd ever need too, I'm never surprised at the fact data can't travel fast enough. Sorry for getting off topic, I'm going to buy the CSW and just pray it works with next gen.
 
PS4, new Xbox, pah.
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Temp setup Im doing today/tonight for full and proper realtime 1:1 comparison on each wheel as promised.
 
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Thank you LB.
Very early article that doesn't go either way in proving XID is better or worse than HID if at all there are major drawbacks.

Nice test bed Latte.
 
lemansfanatic
..... Sorry for getting off topic, I'm going to buy the CSW and just pray it works with next gen.
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I already ordered the CSR Elite, i was planning to order the CSW as soon as it's available.

I just might wait with ordering the CSW untill there is something known about the next gen consoles.

Having one wheel that's not comptible is bad, but two is a bit too much
 
You never change things that work properly. Sony and Microsoft wouldn't change the ports or the protocols of the consoles because that would upset most of the customers that use 3rd party controllers and media devices (hard drives, memory sticks, hubs etc.) and they sure do not to upset anyone who pays them. The interface might be USB 3.0 or USB 4.0 but it WILL be back compatible with all USB devices, period.
 

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