Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[varmintx]

I only ever do the set up once per session.
Unless I've left my console and it's timed out, then I redo the mess about.

I've not tried. SENS set to off come to think of it. Hmm.

I've always had my SENS set to off as well and have never had the rewards bug.

 

[Spagetti69]

I've always had my SENS set to off as well and have never had the rewards bug.

Apparently mostly at ovals.
I always seem to get my rewards.

 

[faddish]

I only ever do the set up once per session.
Unless I've left my console and it's timed out, then I redo the mess about.

I've not tried. SENS set to off come to think of it. Hmm.

Personally I think having the sensitivity set to "Off" feels the best - granted it is still nowhere near how it should feel, it is the best alternative. It doesn't feel super twitchy like 270 and I almost always get my rewards.......except on ovals you really need to drive crazy to get those.

 

[Jump_Ace]

You're not gonna get it. Next gen consoles aren't going to be seen until 2013 and knowing Microsoft and how they work they aren't going to tip their hat this early in the game to anybody yet in terms of where they are going with how the next Xbox will handle wireless connection to controllers and wheels and even if they have told peripheral makers they will be sworn to secrecy. I think odds are good Sony will stick to USB though.

I would disagree.

Ask me before the CSR wheel came out, and I would have agreed with you. But since there is an official Forza wheel and Forza is the exclusive racing sim on the XBox, I would now say it's safe to assume and expect that the CSR will work on the next gen XBox console. Just my opinion of course

Jerome

 

[blacbul67]

I would disagree.

Ask me before the CSR wheel came out, and I would have agreed with you. But since there is an official Forza wheel and Forza is the exclusive racing sim on the XBox, I would now say it's safe to assume and expect that the CSR will work on the next gen XBox console. Just my opinion of course

Jerome

I wouldn't be too sure yet. I bought the Fanatec Speedster wheel for the original Forza, it didn't last the transition of hardware and it was marketed as an official wheel too if I remember correctly

 

[GTP_Plato]

Hello guys,

I am having a problem with my CSR wheel, playing GT5 and FM4 if I set the SEN setting to anything more than 340 degrees I am not getting great turn in response, if anything it's delayed. When using 340 I am having to go almost full lock on certain turns (Tokyo R246 first turn GT5 as an example).

If I try to use any higher setting it will feel like i'm driving a bus, I own a DFGT and never had issues on that wheel with turn in response, is this a fault with the wheel and do I need to contact Fanatec support?

Thanks in advance

Edit: Just noticed all you guys posting about the turn in response on FM4, sorry to say it but it's the same on GT5 (using firmware 706)

The issues on GT5 are really strange, it seems that cars with high downforce respond a lot better than the cars with no downforce at all, still not perfect though. This is a crazy issue, someone summed it up in an earlier post by saying cars drive like tractors. Are these issues down to the wheel, or is it an issue on both FM4 and GT5. I'm worried I will have to send the wheel back as I have to pay a fortune in shipping as Fanatec don't ship to where I live, I end up having to get a friend in the UK to receive it for me then ship to me.

 

[Caz]

I cannot comment on your problem, but for shipping, why would it need to go to UK before germany? I remember your concern during preorders about shipping to your friend first then to you, so i get that part of it.

I believe you could ship to germany direct. Also, if you ask nicely, fanatec may reimburse you for your shipping as it is ( may be ) a defective product.

I also believe you are the first to have these same issues with GT5.


Good luck with your wheel.



Edit: nevermind on the shipping to fanatec from you, i imagined i read that in your post. Oops

 

[GTP_Plato]

I cannot comment on your problem, but for shipping, why would it need to go to UK before germany? I remember your concern during preorders about shipping to your friend first then to you, so i get that part of it.

I believe you could ship to germany direct. Also, if you ask nicely, may reimburse you for your shipping as it is ( may be ) a defective product.

I also believe you are the first to have these same issues with GT5.


Good luck with your wheel.



Edit: nevermind on the shipping to fanatec from you, i imagined i read that in your post. Oops

I know there is a fault somewhere, either with the games in question, or the wheel. Using a SEN setting of 900 is terrible (like I said, anything higher than 340) I would say I am having to turn the wheel almost double the amount I should have to be. There is no way I had to turn the wheel half as much when using the DFGT, the CSR just has a poor response time when turning. The delay in turning is that bad it makes driving on both games impossible.

I just don't understand how the turn in response is like this.

If anyone gets the chance, try taking the stock mazda rx7 spirit R around nurburgring GP/F and see if you have the same problem, FM4 is the exact same experience.

I am by no means a bad driver (check sig) and know how a wheel should react, but this issue is making me out to be new to a wheel experience.

By no means is this a rant, just after other peoples views and to see if I need to contact Fanatec support.

Thanks guys

 

[Caz]

Did you check the other wheel settings. Linearity and deadzone in particular. I have to ask, sometimes the stupid stuff is overlooked

As i said, this is the first i have heard of this in relation to GT5 so i am leaning towards a wheel issue.

Are you running the latest firmware? I forger which version is the newest, or if the one being emailed from fanatec has gone public release yet.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Or try running sens set to off instead of 900, let it use GT5s default settings, see if that makes a difference. Long shot perhaps but worth a go?

 

[GTP_Plato]

Did you check the other wheel settings. Linearity and deadzone in particular. I have to ask, sometimes the stupid stuff is overlooked

As i said, this is the first i have heard of this in relation to GT5 so i am leaning towards a wheel issue.

Are you running the latest firmware? I forger which version is the newest, or if the one being emailed from has gone public release yet.

Using latest firmware 706

As for wheel settings I have tried everything I can think of, deadzone I normally keep on 0 unless driving high powered cars because of the wheel wobble issue. As for linearity I keep that at 0 also. Other settings such as DRI I tend to leave at 0 as well as I know this can make the wheel wobble worse in high powered cars.

I have tried using the off setting for SEN but still have the same issue, turn in response is still the same.

SPR normally -2
DPR normally -3

 

[Stones]

How are you powering on your consoles? It's best to turn on the consoles first, then fire up the wheel.

 

[GTP_Plato]

With the Forza problem it seems as though there is a strange linearity going on.

Seems as though quite a bit of initial steering is required to get the car to turn in, more than say GT5. Some cars feel plain odd. I had issues with the lotus 2 eleven around Nurb GP at one particular corner. No matter what I did I couldn't keep my desired line.

Personally use Raudis work around and run between 450/360 degrees.
This is purely my feel.

I only mention it because no doubt someone will ask you about it during your review.

Will try out some cars later at 900 degrees and see if I can recommend something.

I agree it's a T10 issue too.

Here you go this explains the exact same problems i'm having with GT5, amazing thing is Spaghetti has picked out the same track as me that I had the issue but we are both on different games. Now this surely has to be a wheel issue and not a game issue.

Edit: This track is just an example but the problem occurs everywhere

Edit 2: I am turning the console on first

 

[Caz]

You run the same settings as i do, except for most cars i run between 800/840 but obviously you cannot. Even the occasional deadzone for those high power/ df cars.

Stones makes a valid point. I do this by mere setup habit.
1) tv on
2) ps3 on
3) while ps is booting, setup rig
4) start gt 5
5) while loading, plug in seat speakers, usb to wheel
6) sit down,turn on wheel and go.


Sounds like you are trying all the right things, looks like a CS call is in order.

Have you tried any ingame settings? Or remapping the wheel as a g series?

 

[GTP_Plato]

You run the same settings as i do, except for most cars i run between 800/840 but obviously you cannot. Even the occasional deadzone for those high power/ df cars.

Stones makes a valid point. I do this by mere setup habit.
1) tv on
2) ps3 on
3) while ps is booting, setup rig
4) start gt 5
5) while loading, plug in seat speakers, usb to wheel
6) sit down,turn on wheel and go.


Sounds like you are trying all the right things, looks like a CS call is in order.

Have you tried any ingame settings? Or remapping the wheel as a g series?

Tried what game settings there are on GT, don't have any options like there are on FM4.

There's more to it than this I think or there is going to be a lot of wheels going back to Fanatec I would say. There's a lot of people with the same issue, Spaghetti can see the issue on FM4 so I guarantee he will have the same on GT5 if he tries what I explained in a previous post.

There have been tons of threads about the CSR feeling weak in the center, this is the culprit in my opinion

Edit: Somebody else with good wheel knowledge needs to test this on both games, I have a feeling it's not either games fault

Not trying to cause an argument here, just trying to get to the bottom of this issue. I can't wait to see peoples findings when they do a full review

 

[Caz]

No argument from me either man. Sometimes for me when an issue comes up with something i always overlook the simple stuff. Only reason im asking about other settings and "obvious" stuff.

 

[GTP_Plato]

No argument from me either man. Sometimes for me when an issue comes up with something i always overlook the simple stuff. Only reason im asking about other settings and "obvious" stuff.

Would you be in agreement that it is a wheel issue and not a game issue? I do not want to go to war with anyone here, but surely now it is as clear as day that this issue is not the games fault.

I really hope someone experiments on GT5 with a high SEN setting (stock car no aero is best test) and posts there findings, I think some people just don't notice this issue, I am very happy that spaghetti has as well as myself as now hopefully something can be done with some kind of update.

 

[Caz]

I was never in disagreement with you. Only giving suggestions to try to save you from going through the lottery that is the current Fanatec Customer service.

Sorry if I came off as a "defender of fanatec "

 

[GTP_Plato]

I was never in disagreement with you. Only giving suggestions to try to save you from going through the lottery that is the current Customer service.

Sorry if I came off as a "defender of "

No you didn't

I just can't see this being the games fault now, at first I thought it was when playing FM4 for a couple of weeks after release, I moved on to GT5 after getting fed up with the issue only to face the same thing. I think it's the same for most people, there all probably still playing FM4 and haven't really spent much time on GT5 to see if the same issue occurs. I have now had a week or 2 on GT5 and can confirm a specific game issue not being the case.👍

Time to get some shut eye for me, hopefully I awake to some positive feedback about the issue from you guys tomorrow

 

[Caz]

Good luck with your fanatec lottery ticket, i mean...... customer service, experience. If i had a csr to test i would be more than happy to help further.

 

[GTP_Plato]

Good luck with your lottery ticket, i mean...... customer service, experience. If i had a csr to test i would be more than happy to help further.

Will not be contacting Fanatec yet until others have tried and tested this, if it turns out to be a Fanatec issue hopefully it can be addressed via a quick firmware update:tup:

 

[FuzzyFassbender]

Using latest firmware 706

As for wheel settings I have tried everything I can think of, deadzone I normally keep on 0 unless driving high powered cars because of the wheel wobble issue. As for linearity I keep that at 0 also. Other settings such as DRI I tend to leave at 0 as well as I know this can make the wheel wobble worse in high powered cars.

I have tried using the off setting for SEN but still have the same issue, turn in response is still the same.

SPR normally -2
DPR normally -3

Hmm, wheel wobble? I haven't experienced that one at all in FM4 or my PC sims. I am not seeing any steering issues with my CSR - reaction/turn-in seems as expected.
Haven't played GT in quite a while so can't comment on that one.

Note: I am using the FM4 suggestions found on Thomas's blog. Have you tried to reset your wheel to factory defaults as a start?

 

[Mr Latte]

Would you be in agreement that it is a wheel issue and not a game issue? I do not want to go to war with anyone here, but surely now it is as clear as day that this issue is not the games fault.

I really hope someone experiments on GT5 with a high SEN setting (stock car no aero is best test) and posts there findings, I think some people just don't notice this issue, I am very happy that spaghetti has as well as myself as now hopefully something can be done with some kind of update.

Hi again,

I think we should move to a seperate thread.
Your making a valid and proper post in trouble your having, nothing wrong with that at all man. It could be an issue firmware can fix, It could be your wheel so lets get to the bottom of it and test with others using Fanatec wheels to nail this issue.

As a suggestion create a thread and give us a set car/track or combination you are finding the difficulty with. Also can you provide links to other comments you have seen on other forums of others having this trouble. Again It is not something I have read in reviews so we need to establish first if it is a CSR wheel problem or "your wheel". We can help compare and it helps us determine if others are having the same issue or not.

It wouldnt be a bad thing neither if we group as a community instead of bickering, show that when someone has a problem and has the correct "attitude" like you have shown then it is usually better for everyone and the forums in general.

 

[ilonioum]

Is there any news regarding the wheels and the reviews?

I'm tired of reading same post about some imaginary problem that these wheels have, would be good to read something rather interesting.

 

[Mr Latte]

Is there any news regarding the wheels and the reviews?

I'm tired of reading same post about some imaginary problem that these wheels have, would be good to read something rather interesting.

Not so sure its imaginary though mate, if more than one person is commenting about such. I have not had the issues some have mentioned with the CSR on F1 using the CSRE "beta". I recommend to anyone doing reviews of these upcoming wheels to be thorough in their testing and to test several games. Their are some major differences between wheels and different games.

You could not base the performance of either wheel say on GT5 alone, certainly regards the T500RS / CSRE. Wheels at this price point if anything need even more dedicated reviews.

In saying that I havnt had so much fun in a long time...

 

[ilonioum]

I recommend to anyone doing reviews of these upcoming wheels to be thorough in their testing and to test several games. Their are some major differences between different wheels and different games.

You could not base the performance of either wheel say on GT5 alone, certainly regards the T500RS / CSRE.

In saying that I havnt had so much fun in a long time...

You are absolutely right, I do not want to know how the CSRE wheel or the T500RS perform in GT5 alone. I also play F1, GTR, Dirt3, rFactor and Forza.

GT5 is a benchmark for most console gamers however as the T500RS is only PS3 and PC.

I'm personally interested in performance figures of both wheels and also T500RS with the pedals against CSRE with CSP, which feels more realistic and which helps you gain a better result in the race itself.

Things like that are much more interesting than a problem that can and will be fixed by a firmware or a patch.

 

[Mr Latte]

Will be testing the CSRE with CSRE pedals and against the CSP with my own time-trial times on some games. It is surprising how much time it can all take to do though still Im in no hurry. I dont want to say in a report this was better than that, I want to show examples and the times achieved done within a fair yet equal amount of effort on each.

None of you lot came back to me about that Laguna Seca time in the Calsonic GTR.
Would be nice to know how much more time I need to be finding so that the review shows a laptime that isnt well too embarrassing.

 

[ilonioum]

Will be testing the CSRE with CSRE pedals and against the CSP with my own time-trial times on some games. It is surprising how much time it can all take to do though still Im in no hurry. I dont want to say in a report this was better than that, I want to show examples and the times achieved done within a fair yet equal amount of effort on each.

None of you lot came back to me about that Laguna Seca time in the Calsonic GTR.
Would be nice to know how much more time I need to be finding so that the review shows a laptime that isnt well too embarrassing.

As soon as I get my SCRE I will give you a time or you accept PS3/XBOX controller times as well?

 

[Mr Latte]

Whatever I suppose really as I just want a decent benchmark as I havnt played GT5 properly in a while with all that has been going on with Project R build etc.

 

[Spagetti69]

@Plato.

I am running firmware 681 GT2 combo.
I do believe it's a Forza issue as only yesterday I played F1 2011 after a patch.

Sens set to off gives 1/1 steering, easily seen in cockpit view.

Some cars in GT if I remember are odd by default. FGT cars being one culprit. 900 just feels plain odd in them.

Have you put in telemetry in Forza 4 when testing?
Also other games giving same results?