Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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lemansfanatic
Im the exact opposite. for me the default rim is good enough for gt, but i'm desperately hoping the next csre rim will be formula.
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I prefer a GT rim or round rim for drifting and rally.
And the majority of the cars in Iracing/Forza/GT has rounder rims
in real life.
Maybe I will buy a formula rim also, but probably later.
 
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Yeah i said i'd only get one more rim for it as long as its a formula rim, but the truth is if they came out with something similar to that bmw rim it would be pretty hard to ignore. i can see the conversation with the wife already... "honey i know i just spent $550 on a video game controller but just two more wheels for it and i swear thats all i need. okay okay just two more wheels and a shifter and thats all i need, promise!" i have reverted back to an adolescent teen state, thanks fanatec!
 
Any of you guys have any info on when the new firmware will be available for the CSR wheel? I already have 706, the one i'm waiting on is the similar firmware to what the CSR E has, I noticed on Thomas's blog that he said it was in the works, was just wondering if anybody had any updates on this. :cheers:
 
GTP_Plato
Any of you guys have any info on when the new firmware will be available for the CSR wheel? I already have 706, the one i'm waiting on is the similar firmware to what the CSR E has, I noticed on Thomas's blog that he said it was in the works, was just wondering if anybody had any updates on this. :cheers:
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Would I be right in saying it would apply to the GT2/PWTS brands too. Or are we too ancient?
 
GTP_Plato
Any of you guys have any info on when the new firmware will be available for the CSR wheel? I already have 706, the one i'm waiting on is the similar firmware to what the CSR E has, I noticed on Thomas's blog that he said it was in the works, was just wondering if anybody had any updates on this. :cheers:
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What are you expecting in the new firmware, by the way?
About the only thing I'm hoping for in the GT2 firmware is that automatic clutch function from the CSR-E, which sounds really handy for Forza... But I suspect that'll be CSR-only.
 
GTP_Plato
Any of you guys have any info on when the new firmware will be available for the CSR wheel? I already have 706, the one i'm waiting on is the similar firmware to what the CSR E has, I noticed on Thomas's blog that he said it was in the works, was just wondering if anybody had any updates on this. :cheers:
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Is it due to potential ACL feature?
 
skazz
What are you expecting in the new firmware, by the way?
About the only thing I'm hoping for in the GT2 firmware is that automatic clutch function from the CSR-E, which sounds really handy for Forza... But I suspect that'll be CSR-only.
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I imagine he's hoping for improvements.
What you say about the ACL function is interesting.

If its not possible to implement it then that's fine. If it is possible but left out just for exclusivity for the Elite that would leave a bad taste IMHO.

Not sure either way, maybe those in the know might let us know.
 
Here you go, it says here it will be made available for other wheels, like you guys i'm not sure if ACL will be available for the Porsche range.

http://www.911wheel.de/?q=node/7467

I am also hoping it gets rid of the wheel sensitivity in wheel center that I have been going on about for ages that reviewers failed to pick up on (unless reviews have since been modded)

These are the only features I am worried about plus the strengthening of the FFB.

Edit: Improved Damper sounds interesting to

Edit 2: I don't see the GT3rs listed there, which would disappoint some of my friends
 
GTP_Plato
Here you go, it says here it will be made available for other wheels, like you guys i'm not sure if ACL will be available for the Porsche range.

http://www.911wheel.de/?q=node/7467

I am also hoping it gets rid of the wheel sensitivity in wheel center that I have been going on about for ages that reviewers failed to pick up on (unless reviews have since been modded)

These are the only features I am worried about plus the strengthening of the FFB.

Edit: Improved Damper sounds interesting to
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Looks promising for all Fanatec wheels with Xbox 360 Compatibility.

Is the wheel sensitivity on all games?
 
saidur_ali
Looks promising for all wheels with Xbox 360 Compatibility.

Is the wheel sensitivity on all games?
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Noticed it on Forza mostly, but can also notice it on GT5 but not as much:tup:

@ Spagetti

You say it would leave a bad taste if the ACL feature wasn't included for the CSR wheel. I am already disappointed that the only wheel getting all the attention at the moment is the CSR E as you may have seen by some of my earlier posts.

I have read great comments about the wheel center issue being fixed on the CSR E, so I don't mind the wait as much now as long as other wheels get similar support to the CSR E.
 
GTP_Plato
Noticed it on Forza mostly, but can also notice it on GT5 but not as much:tup:

@ Spagetti

You say it would leave a bad taste if the ACL feature wasn't included for the CSR wheel. I am already disappointed that the only wheel getting all the attention at the moment is the CSR E as you may have seen by some of my earlier posts.

I have read great comments about the wheel center issue being fixed on the CSR E, so I don't mind the wait as much now as long as other wheels get similar support to the CSR E.
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I think the issue is with Forza, but it looks like Fanatec are trying to make it better through changing firmware and that potentially might affect games that have true 1:1 steering like GT5. There are many settings on Fanatec wheels so maybe you could get rid of some of the sensitivity but I guess you already tried.

Do you find using a button clutch hard to use on the wheel? You used to be part of a competitive team, how would you rate something like ACL in regards to speed and consistency for say rivals.
 
Plato I adjust Lin setting to around 10/20 when in 900 degree mode in Forza.

Seems a Forza issue mate.
 
saidur_ali
I think the issue is with Forza, but it looks like Fanatec are trying to make it better through changing firmware and that potentially might affect games that have true 1:1 steering like GT5. There are many settings on Fanatec wheels so maybe you could get rid of some of the sensitivity but I guess you already tried.

Do you find using a button clutch hard to use on the wheel? You used to be part of a competitive team, how would you rate something like ACL in regards to speed and consistency for say rivals.
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No, I am fine using a button as the clutch, I think the ACL feature is a must have though, especially if you are up/downshifting mid turn, gives you less to think about with this feature and will help with overall smoothness in my opinion.

If they are to do the same fix with the wheel center problem and improve the FFB like the CSR E, that's the important things I will want out of the update.

@ Spagetti

They seem to have fixed that issue for the CSR E through firmware, so I am under the impression Thomas plans to do the same for the CSR and other wheels that are effected.

Not a Forza issue if it has also been noticed on other games, plus the fact firmware seems to have got rid of it on the CSR E
 
I thought the issue was lack of FF around the centre. I may be wrong.

Incidentally that may have been in place to overcome GT5 shortcomings of wheel wobble.

Problem is if you dedicate hardware to a certain software it could cockup other games.

Only my option. I know nothing for certain.
 
Spagetti69
I thought the issue was lack of FF around the centre. I may be wrong.

Incidentally that may have been in place to overcome GT5 shortcomings of wheel wobble.

Problem is if you dedicate hardware to a certain software it could cockup other games.

Only my option. I know nothing for certain.
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Strange you mention wheel wobble, the issue has come back since the 2.02 update

Edit: You may be right Spagetti as the FFB was strengthened in the latest firmware for the Elite, this may have corrected the sensitivity issue
 
GTP_Plato
Strange you mention wheel wobble, the issue has come back since the 2.02 update
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I never knew it went lol. I don't play it much.

GT seemed to have too much FF around the centre. Forza seemed to have the opposite.

Making a wheel to work flawlessly on both must be a nightmare.

Ok you can add deadzone for GT, not ideal really. Forza you can add linearity to avoid the twitchyness around the centre.

Thank goodness for onboard programming.
 
GTP_Plato
No, I am fine using a button as the clutch, I think the ACL feature is a must have though, especially if you are up/downshifting mid turn, gives you less to think about with this feature and will help with overall smoothness in my opinion.

If they are to do the same fix with the wheel center problem and improve the FFB like the CSR E, that's the important things I will want out of the update.

@ Spagetti

They seem to have fixed that issue for the CSR E through firmware, so I am under the impression Thomas plans to do the same for the CSR and other wheels that are effected.
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I guess you are pretty good with the button clutch then. For me if I was to get a wheel and it had ACL, it will improve my Forza pace by quite a bit as it will give perfect shifting everytime and like you mention less to think about. It will be like how it is to drive with manual without clutch but with the clutch advantage.

As I hardly ever play any game on the 360, it does not really affect me but as FM4 lets you play rivals without Gold service, it might be quite interesting to see how close I could get to the leaders. Hopefully sometime this year or next year I can get a Fanatec wheel for 360 to experience XID FFB.

Spagetti69
I thought the issue was lack of FF around the centre. I may be wrong.

Incidentally that may have been in place to overcome GT5 shortcomings of wheel wobble.

Problem is if you dedicate hardware to a certain software it could cockup other games.

Only my option. I know nothing for certain.
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The issue is actually due to the wheel. GT5 FFB code does not have deadzone hence wheel wobble but for T500RS there is no wobble due to the wheel being high-end not having a deadzone. I guess it would be similar on the CSR Elite. GT should add a deadzone option though for FFB to stop this though, although with Fanatec wheels you can add it on the wheel settings.
 
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Spagetti69
I never knew it went lol. I don't play it much.

GT seemed to have too much FF around the centre. Forza seemed to have the opposite.

Making a wheel to work flawlessly on both must be a nightmare.

Ok you can add deadzone for GT, not ideal really. Forza you can add linearity to avoid the twitchyness around the centre.

Thank goodness for onboard programming.
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I never had the issue on Le mans before the 2.02 update, I haven't tried that track since the update, I noticed the issue on High Speed Ring. Could this be due to course layout? Surely not as Le mans is far more bumpy. May have to try Le mans when I next play GT and see. Not played for a couple of weeks though, I have burnt myself out. As for Forza, I played it for the first 2 weeks and haven't played it since due to issues I am not happy with.
 
Have you tried 900/720/540 degrees with a combo Lin set to either 10/20.
Bit of a pain but I'm sure you could get the right setup. I'm happy.
 
Spagetti69
Have you tried 900/720/540 degrees with a combo Lin set to either 10/20.
Bit of a pain but I'm sure you could get the right setup. I'm happy.
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It's not wheel issues that put me off Forza, I like to compete on the leaderboards with the top guys. Most leaderboards don't have the top guys on them as they are also not happy with the PI system/Tranny bug.

When they release the PI update I may give it another go, until then for me the leaderboards are broken, just like every other game in the series. this time it seems they have the power to fix all the issues, but until then the game isn't worth playing.

Turn 10 only have a list of very few cars that need fixing, I hope they realize there are a lot of cars that are effected.

I also read they were not fixing the Rivals mode leaderboards, is this true? If so that's one of the best features in the game ruined.
 
GTP_Plato
I also read they were not fixing the Rivals mode leaderboards, is this true? If so that's one of the best features in the game ruined.
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That is true it seems. The list of glitched cars that T10 put out can not post times on the regular leaderboards, but on the new monthly rivals just put out yesterday, there is one for D class on Tsukuba which has already been invaded by Dodge Darts.
 
Troysloth
That is true it seems. The list of glitched cars that T10 put out can not post times on the regular leaderboards, but on the new monthly rivals just put out yesterday, there is one for D class on Tsukuba which has already been invaded by Dodge Darts.
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Sorry for taking this thread off topic:tup:

There will always be cars with problems, there's a new glitched car that surfaces every other day it seems.

As for Rivals not being fixed, what are they thinking? This was the mode Turn 10 seemed to be most impressed with before release. Surely they mean they are not going to fix it at the moment until the PI system has been addressed in their future update.
 
saidur_ali
The issue is actually due to the wheel. GT5 FFB code does not have deadzone hence wheel wobble but for T500RS there is no wobble due to the wheel being high-end not having a deadzone.
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This is not a hardware issue. None of the wheels in the Fanatec line have deadzones. This issue lies in the driver or the software itself. Fanatec emulate Logitech, so this will forever be an issue until 1 of 3 things happen.

1-Logitech drivers are corrected (could cause another issue to pop up in Logitechs so I doubt this will happen).
2-Fanatec emulates the T500RS.
3-Fanatec gets it's own set of drivers. This would obviously be the best solution.
 
Just wanted to say I'm loving my setup! So far I've only used my CSR wheel/CSR-Elite pedals on Forza 4 and GT5. Will be trying out Race Pro, F1 2010 and Dirt2 this week. Eventually will try other racing games i have as well as on the PC. I haven't found the perfect setup but I feel I am getting close. Still have not tried clutch yet, been always manual with the paddle shifters.
 
I'm really excited that so many people are rediscovering games. That does speak volumes for Thrustmaster and Fanatec.
 
Here is a pic of my new wheel i got today. Im waiting on some materials to come in but will soon make a paddle shifter set for this wheel.
 
VWMasteR
This is not a hardware issue. None of the wheels in the Fanatec line have deadzones. This issue lies in the driver or the software itself. Fanatec emulate Logitech, so this will forever be an issue until 1 of 3 things happen.

1-Logitech drivers are corrected (could cause another issue to pop up in Logitechs so I doubt this will happen).
2-Fanatec emulates the T500RS.
3-Fanatec gets it's own set of drivers. This would obviously be the best solution.
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I think Thomas even posted on here saying it is a hardware issue and it is not compensated for in GT5. I prefer it that way so there is no loss in feedback around the centre. The T500RS and the CSR Elite as far as I know don't have wheel wobble problems.
 
The T500RS I've heard doesn't, the CSRE may still have it. With the sensor being on the drive shaft, it may be less though.
 

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