Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel

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any news on the release date guys?

also does anyone know if they ship to australia?

i got forza 4, but im just waiting for a bloody wheel to play on!

cheers guys,
 
There is an australian re-seller. I was on their site the other day, but do not remember the name. They charge slightly more than what it would cost you to get it from Fanatec directly. BUT, since they do not have an AU shipment/order page, I would say that reseller.

Could someone please find and post that link, thank you. Oh, and as for when they get it compared to Fanatec, I have no idea what delays or lack there of are involved.

EDIT: CSR Elite is not yet in production, they are still working through some things. Hopefully by December they will be up and running. As for delivery dates, no clue atm.
 
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

How does the csr wheel compared to the logitech g25/27? Same category or is the csr more of a high range wheel?
 
iRev_olution
Thanks for the feedback guys.

How does the csr wheel compared to the logitech g25/27? Same category or is the csr more of a high range wheel?

The CSR is in the G27 range but I'd rank it higher as it has more realistic force feedback, is smoother thanks to the belt drive and has on the fly adjustability with 5 user presets and cross platform usability. That to me puts it several notches above.

The CSR Elite is on awhole other planet compared to anything else on the market aside from other high end units like the Frex or Ecci but none of those are XBOX compatible either which makes the CSR Elite a unique animal in the sim racing world.
 
As they say........good things come to those that wait.

Going by the pics, hardware description and early impressions from those that have tried it......yes.....I think its worth the wait. The target is production to start in November if al goes well with beta testing which means ordering would take place in December......thats not very far off
 
yeah im really considering the elite instead.

i mean i dont care how much it will cost, as long as it comes soon! lol.

but i would still have fun with the CSR?
 
I am playing with the CSR E right now and it looks like we finally found the last flaws so we can go in trial run production in November. If you can afford it you really should wait. The difference between CSR and CSR E is significant.
 
Thats great news!

Will the product be available for Australia?

I would also combine the Elite with the csr shifter and elite pedals.

im really excited for this product, i just hope it will be available for me to use!

Thanks,
 
I am playing with the CSR E right now and it looks like we finally found the last flaws so we can go in trial run production in November. If you can afford it you really should wait. The difference between CSR and CSR E is significant.

The question I think that is burning for a lot of people including me. In console games and FM4 in particular, will the expected improved expereince from the "Elite" be worth the additional cost and allow a player to also improve their laptimes with the additional possible accuracy and specification it offers? Or will it really only show a larger difference in PC simulations?

I'd like to do a personal yet detailed mini review thread using 3 friends as test dummies and compare different wheels all together including your upcoming Elite against the CSR and the PWTS. My own plan is to help accertain each wheel in competition with more than one persons opinion for a proper wheel faceoff on FM4!

Amar has shown in his great/recent testing on GT5 that not always can the most expensive or highest spec wheel gurantee additional "race performance". The outlining question I put to Fanatec is does the Elite clearly come out on top as the "Elite Wheel" for FM4. This is particulary important because I think a lot of "Elite" customers could be PWTS/GT2 owners looking to consider upgrading or certainly not first time wheel buyers. They are the person that wants the best for their favourite console games and isnt that really what the "Elite Wheel" is all about?

Im ready and waiting for the oppertunity and certainly want to contribute with such an upcoming report.
 
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I am playing with the CSR E right now and it looks like we finally found the last flaws so we can go in trial run production in November. If you can afford it you really should wait. The difference between CSR and CSR E is significant.

Thomas, can you tell us a bit more about the main differences between the CSR E and the CSW?
So far the only differences I noticed from your teasing presentations are

CSW vs CSR E
Wide wheel range support - Limited amount of wheels supported
Quick release - Slow release (kinda like TM's T500 RS, but as far as I've seen with no slack in the hub)
111 button support - 10+5 way joystick
No xbox support - xbox support

Those are the main things i've noticed.

Also another question in the BMW CSW video you said that you can take the wheel out of your car and onto the CSW. But what kind of hub do I need in my car to make it all compatible with each other? (plus it would be nice added security. heh)
 
I am playing with the CSR E right now and it looks like we finally found the last flaws so we can go in trial run production in November. If you can afford it you really should wait. The difference between CSR and CSR E is significant.

This is really good news Thomas, I have created a topic in your forum (911wheel) but not received any answer. I'm planning to create a new rig for the CSR Elite wheel and I need someone to send me the mounting points for it and the Clubsport Shifter (if you have them finalized).

Thanks in advance!
 
Fanatec...
I am playing with the CSR E right now and it looks like we finally found the last flaws so we can go in trial run production in November. If you can afford it you really should wait. The difference between CSR and CSR E is significant.

wrong thread but will we be able to buy a bundle package with the csw and bmw wheel?
 
I am playing with the CSR E right now and it looks like we finally found the last flaws so we can go in trial run production in November. If you can afford it you really should wait. The difference between CSR and CSR E is significant.

nice!!
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hampus_dh
wrong thread but will we be able to buy a bundle package with the csw and bmw wheel?

As far as I know or at least the impression I got is that the CSW will be a modular deal when you purchase. Basically the base itself will be sold on its own and customers will have a choice of wheels to choose from. My understanding is the BMW wheel and the F1 wheel will be two of the early choices with possibly a couple others at launch which likely wont be until early 2012.
 
The question I think that is burning for a lot of people including me. In console games and FM4 in particular, will the expected improved expereince from the "Elite" be worth the additional cost and allow a player to also improve their laptimes with the additional possible accuracy and specification it offers? Or will it really only show a larger difference in PC simulations?

I'd like to do a personal yet detailed mini review thread using 3 friends as test dummies and compare different wheels all together including your upcoming Elite against the CSR and the PWTS. My own plan is to help accertain each wheel in competition with more than one persons opinion for a proper wheel faceoff on FM4!

Amar has shown in his great/recent testing on GT5 that not always can the most expensive or highest spec wheel gurantee additional "race performance". The outlining question I put to Fanatec is does the Elite clearly come out on top as the "Elite Wheel" for FM4. This is particulary important because I think a lot of "Elite" customers could be PWTS/GT2 owners looking to consider upgrading or certainly not first time wheel buyers. They are the person that wants the best for their favourite console games and isnt that really what the "Elite Wheel" is all about?

Im ready and waiting for the oppertunity and certainly want to contribute with such an upcoming report.


It is difficult for me to justify a $250 increase in price over the CSR at this moment. In terms of performance gains I expect the improved FFB to help but has anything been said about the possible 'accuracy' of the wheel? We actually get this with the T500rs H.E.A.R.T. technology and its 65k values on the steering axis. This has been credited as totally changing the gaming experience. Drifting is also awesome with how quickly it can return to center. Has anything accuracy related been detailed with the CSR Elite or CSW? Can it provide the same return to center?
 
maks
It is difficult for me to justify a $250 increase in price over the CSR at this moment. In terms of performance gains I expect the improved FFB to help but has anything been said about the possible 'accuracy' of the wheel? We actually get this with the T500rs H.E.A.R.T. technology and its 65k values on the steering axis. This has been credited as totally changing the gaming experience. Drifting is also awesome with how quickly it can return to center. Has anything accuracy related been detailed with the CSR Elite or CSW? Can it provide the same return to center?

Watch the video by Thomas below. He goes into detail about what makes the CSW special compared to the mid line Fanatec wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgnxlWXs_CY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
I think it's also a question of immersion vs speed. I bet a lot of people could be fastest with precise, non-FFB wheels with less than 900 degree steering. That's not what I'd want to use to race. My goal has always been to go with the setup that feels the most realistic to me. It's a lot easier for me to recover from a skid at 270 degrees of rotation in a road car, but if the real car offers 2.5-3 turns lock-to-lock, then 900 degree steering (or 1080 on a T500 RS) is how I'd want to drive that car. It's not that I think the higher steering ratio makes me slower. I think the reduced ratio makes me artificially faster. Realistic feel is also important. I don't think my PWTS or GT2 make me any faster than my old G25, but I definitely prefer the feel.

Inside Sim Racing has had some great wheel shootout videos in the past, and from what I recall, there wasn't any one wheel that was fastest in all situations (F1, GT, rally, etc), so they all had their strengths and weaknesses. Based on what I'm reading these days it seems the standard CSR wheel may be Fanatec's quickest wheel to date, while offering a good balance between the twitchiness of a G27, and the smoother road car feel of the GT2.

The jury's still out with the CSR Elite, but given its powerful twin motor system and improvements in the sensor technology, I expect it to be very fast and precise. I'm most looking forward to the substantial upgrade in build quality and feel, and hope the power upgrade offers superior dynamic range and rotational speed.

These wheels are so expensive and sim racing is such a niche. It might be worth having get-togethers in various parts of the world where people hook up all their wheels and compare notes.

The question I think that is burning for a lot of people including me. In console games and FM4 in particular, will the expected improved expereince from the "Elite" be worth the additional cost and allow a player to also improve their laptimes with the additional possible accuracy and specification it offers? Or will it really only show a larger difference in PC simulations?

I'd like to do a personal yet detailed mini review thread using 3 friends as test dummies and compare different wheels all together including your upcoming Elite against the CSR and the PWTS. My own plan is to help accertain each wheel in competition with more than one persons opinion for a proper wheel faceoff on FM4!

Amar has shown in his great/recent testing on GT5 that not always can the most expensive or highest spec wheel gurantee additional "race performance". The outlining question I put to Fanatec is does the Elite clearly come out on top as the "Elite Wheel" for FM4. This is particulary important because I think a lot of "Elite" customers could be PWTS/GT2 owners looking to consider upgrading or certainly not first time wheel buyers. They are the person that wants the best for their favourite console games and isnt that really what the "Elite Wheel" is all about?

Im ready and waiting for the oppertunity and certainly want to contribute with such an upcoming report.
 

Thanks, didn't know a comparison chart was out there already. Still leaves open the second question to me though.
How can I make my car compatible with the CSW wheels? :dopey:

On a side note: Today my dad complained about the gears jamming in the middle of a race with my G25. The jam felt like it was due to the teeth standing on top of each other instead of grabbing into each other. The alignment is still okay, but I reckon the gears are starting to wear at the moment.
So yeah, I'll definitely going to save up and keep a look out for the Clubsport Wheel to have next to my T500 RS. Still don't know about pedals though, maybe CSP's or CSR E P's. I like my inverted pedals currently on the T500 RS.

ps. Sorry for my ramblings and intrusion. Continue with the thread as is please. ^_^
 
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No.

Thomas has stated that they are looking at November to start a production run. Generally after a production run is complete and the container ships it takes about 2 weeks of so until it hits the US and then theres customs to go through. In all likelihood I think the earliest we could see units shipping is late December but I'm more inclined to think we will be seeing the 1st run of Elites in the new year at best. I don't forsee preorders being taken until the boat is in the water so expect December.
 
im more than happy to make a pre order in nov to recieve it by nov...

im looking forward to the wheel.

i think with this wheel and its cross platiform enabled wheel, will be a big change for the racing sim. industry.

a couple hundred dollars more will only mean a good investment for future games to come!

forza 5 gt6 etc...

im impressed by the wheel and the wait is killing me.

Thomas, please confirm if Australia can get the wheel on time like the others, and also when we can pre order this wheel, will this wheel be released along with the handbrake?
 
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