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Some people on Fanatec forum reporting DD Pro shutting down after GT7 patch 1.71🤦‍♂️
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@RS60NR:
Tested around a lot with your advise and that's the result.

GT7 Settings:
Vibration = 60
Max Torque = 5
Sen = 2

DD Pro Settings:
SEN=600 (for GT3 cars - AUTO for others)
FFB=100
FUL=23
NDP=20
NFR=2
NIN=off
INT=4
FEI=100
FOR=100
SPR=100
DPR=100

Still not really happy and it's little grainy/clunky here and there, but it's ok and better than before. If I klick up the max torque to 6 or 7 and lower the FOR to 90 or 80 it is better with the graininess but the overall torque is too weak then 🫣 next time I'll try to regulate it with the FFB value maybe I can find the sweetspot.

@peniu: yep, I've had the reported Problems three times while testing the wheelsettings. Everytime it happened I've had higher values in max torque (6, 7 and 8) and FUL Values above 30 together with FOR 100. a restart of the base and turn down the values did the trick. I can drive for hours with the above mentioned settings so far. Hope they'll bring an update soon (game or FW). Maybe the FUL signal overrides the base and is the reason for the mentioned graininess/clunkyness of the DDPro 🤔
 
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Mine is cooked. Waiting to hear from them (here we go...) sent crash logs and such. Flashing blue light of death and I'm exactly one month out of warranty. Can't wait to see what comes of this.
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Did you update the firmware to the fullforce version before this happnened? Still holding off updating mine.
 
Abarth_71
Did you update the firmware to the fullforce version before this happnened? Still holding off updating mine.
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I was trying. I wiped everything (drivers and anything fanatec on my PC) and even tried the legacy driver for when things are really borked. All I get is a left turn in game. The wheelbase firmware hangs and loops every time I try and fix it.

Edit to add, I'm pretty much a luddite though so I'm just following the instructions I've found online and don't really know what I'm doing so I could be doing it wrong. I usually can follow directions well for this kind of thing though and don't usually find myself in trouble.
 
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DD Pro Base firmware is now 1.9.1.1.
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Have gone ahead and updated everything so hope it works!
I thought I’d updated yesterday (for GT7) and was underwhelmed by full force, only to discover this morning the wheelbase wasn’t actually up to date even though fanatec app said it was, and also said it was up to date but it wasn’t 🙄.
Looking forward to trying it properly now…
 
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Updated my dd pro to latest firmware and now I am experiencing constants disconnects.

If your wheel is functioning on the older firmware, my advice is to leave it as is. There is nothing special about full force.
 
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That's me staying on 455 for the foreseeable then. They really need to get their **** together, then again they've needed to do that for a while when it comes to firmware updates.
I mainly play on PC these days so if my DD Pro ever dies I'll be going elsewhere for a replacement. The wheelbase is the only Fanatec product I still use as I've got a Leoxz wheel and Simnet pedals.
 
Gogga
Updated my dd pro to latest firmware and now I am experiencing constants disconnects.

If your wheel is functioning on the older firmware, my advice is to leave it as is. There is nothing special about full force.
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I was playing just now with latest firmware 1.9.1.1 and it was fine until I increased the sensitivity (in game) from 2 to 5, disconnected almost immediately after (max torque on 4, FFB on 100). Rebooted, lowered it back and it was fine again. Tried lowering FFB to 80 and it was then ok with higher sensitivity. I don’t know what to conclude from that but hopefully someone with greater knowledge of the hardware will be able to draw some conclusions.
 
Shackster
I was playing just now with latest firmware 1.9.1.1 and it was fine until I increased the sensitivity (in game) from 2 to 5, disconnected almost immediately after (max torque on 4, FFB on 100). Rebooted, lowered it back and it was fine again. Tried lowering FFB to 80 and it was then ok with higher sensitivity. I don’t know what to conclude from that but hopefully someone with greater knowledge of the hardware will be able to draw some conclusions.
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Very interesting regarding sensitivity. There is clearly some overload protection feature in the base that’s causing these disconnects but how it works and what the limits are is still unknown. Also it seems that while some experience disconnects a few are getting bricked

Since the added holding force as well as full force was added to the CSL DD/Pro the system is now operating much closer to the design limits

Credit to them for making it work but Fanatec has not been doing a great job of consistency in build configuration mgmt, when substituting “equivalent” spec components

Which is what the different user experiences that crop up w each FW release would indicate - whatever testing is being done can’t account for all these variations and whatever units they have are not exactly the same as some that are shipped

Sensitivity setting in GT7 controls the ramp speed for signal changes, 1 being slowest, 10 being fastest. So from the driver side, a steering input produces a much quicker and more immediate repsonse at 10 then 1.

But in reverse, a sharp impact or movement from the game is now causing a much quicker response from the wheel and from your experience, this can cause the protection to activate if its too steep, producing some overload somewhere

Another reason why the recommended setting for sens is 1-2 for DD wheels? The higher range is really to help the older belt and gear drives to feel more lively when turned up

the FFB setting is limiting overall how much force the base will deliver, but we don’t know what the possible max in game is for say a wall hit or big bump. Turning down in the wheel as you noticed is putting a cap on the force to the motor, regardless of how big the peak is, whatever level in game torque is set to, so running below 100% makes sense, and bump up in game if needed

Same might be true for Full Force, as its also making the base work harder - run a bit lower on base

I guess eventually Fanatec will raise the protection limits in FW for most and just RMA the units that are too out of spec but for now turn it down seems best
 
Shackster
I was playing just now with latest firmware 1.9.1.1 and it was fine until I increased the sensitivity (in game) from 2 to 5, disconnected almost immediately after (max torque on 4, FFB on 100). Rebooted, lowered it back and it was fine again. Tried lowering FFB to 80 and it was then ok with higher sensitivity. I don’t know what to conclude from that but hopefully someone with greater knowledge of the hardware will be able to draw some conclusions.
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Thanks for this. This workaround seems to be working for me. Tried both lower sensitivity with ffb at 100 and ffb at 80 with sensitivity at 10.

Thanks!!! 🙏
 
I have the DD pro at 5nm.
Before update I had torque 5 sensitivity 1.
No I moved to 5 and 3.
Everything is working fine but not really clear to me if the full force feedback is working properly.

With the last update the physics are changed so much that I am not capable to distinguish if the new effect is coming from the game update or from the wheel update.

How do you judge my settings?
I am also using the A_Set with no changes at all.
 
Abarth_71
That's me staying on 455 for the foreseeable then. They really need to get their **** together, then again they've needed to do that for a while when it comes to firmware updates.
I mainly play on PC these days so if my DD Pro ever dies I'll be going elsewhere for a replacement. The wheelbase is the only Fanatec product I still use as I've got a Leoxz wheel and Simnet pedals.
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I wanted to directly address this post...

I actually figured it out. Well, my wife who is an avid user of chat gpt started asking it relevant questions and it actually led me down a path I had not tried yet. We got it working! Fullforce engaged and no problems after a two hour session this afternoon. It was not easy and I rebooted my PC a brazillion times in the process but we did it.

Don't give up is the only advice I have.
 
I tested newest firmware on DD Pro with GT7 on auto setup and can confirm I am also affected by the loss of FFB - it happened half way through Nords lap. Tried my luck as I was not affected with base shutdowns with first Full Force firmware.

Base did not shut down for me, but rather lost all feeling, but was still able to steer. I paused when that happened, so not sure if it would shut down completely later.

I was able to complete a lap after turning down FFB to 80 and FUL to 0 on base. Not sure which one helped, but I would guess it might have been FUL as I increased torque in GT7 settings, so the resulting FFB strength was similar as with FFB on 100.
 
peniu
I tested newest firmware on DD Pro with GT7 on auto setup and can confirm I am also affected by the loss of FFB - it happened half way through Nords lap. Tried my luck as I was not affected with base shutdowns with first Full Force firmware.

Base did not shut down for me, but rather lost all feeling, but was still able to steer. I paused when that happened, so not sure if it would shut down completely later.

I was able to complete a lap after turning down FFB to 80 and FUL to 0 on base. Not sure which one helped, but I would guess it might have been FUL as I increased torque in GT7 settings, so the resulting FFB strength was similar as with FFB on 100.
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Seeing some blown fuses reported on the Fanatec Forums as well as the disco/ff losses

Until they lower the FW protection settings, running lower FFB, and/or FUL seem to be the safe moves. Also saw where really high in game sensitivity 9 or 10 can contribute, but IMO 1-3 is the better way of that anyway
 
Totally agree @RS60NR as I've had the Disco and FF losses even with max Torque 5 / Sen 2 / Vibration 65 an FUL 20! So I've set FUL to off and disabled Vibration in GT7 that did the trick for me. No FFB Disco / losses anymore but also sadly no FullForce. We have to wait until they fix it at PD or Fanatec...
 
Damn for me the sole reason I wanted a DD club was because of the full force feature. I don’t have the wheel yet but want to get one come Black Friday. This is frustrating and gamers shouldn’t be trying to figure out what works and what doesn’t these wheels are not cheap toys. Get it together Fanatec. We should be racing and having a good time. Not scratching our heads or worrying about a bricked unit. I hope they figure it out soon and GT figure it out also and they can work together to fix this mess. They really shouldn’t be taking anymore orders of these bases until it’s solved. But it’s business as usual.
 
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danimac
Damn for me the sole reason I wanted a DD club was because of the full force feature. I don’t have the wheel yet but want to get one come Black Friday. This is frustrating and gamers shouldn’t be trying to figure out what works and what doesn’t these wheels are not cheap toys. Get it together Fanatec. We should be racing and having a good time. Not scratching our heads or worrying about a bricked unit. I hope they figure it out soon and GT figure it out also and they can work together to fix this mess. They really shouldn’t be taking anymore orders of these bases until it’s solved. But it’s business as usual.
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Don’t know what your budget is, but its the DD Pro that’s affected. The added Torque & Full force are causing the HW to run near the limit w settings turned up so they and/or PD need to put in some limiters

The DD+ has plenty of extra headroom if you can swing it and is not affected by this particular issue w the DD Pro
 
The dd+ with the 18nm update is tons of fun. Its come alive since 1.71 has dropped. I run 5 and 1 in game and minimal wheel settings and its pretty dang good. (Im at work or id list the wheel settings)

Ps: anyone tried the new pedals yet, or are they still largely a myth?
 
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The driving force as to why I never play online dates back to the the Thrusmaster disconnects in the PS3 era. I couldn't stand it then, and I feel for the affected players.


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