FD-Vid from Germany

[Reiskocher]

Here´s my little video FD-Drift

Geetz from Germany

Reiskocher

 

[Swift]

Interesting. Not quite enough angle for exhibition drifting and not quite enough speed for race drifting. A pretty good display of control though.

 

[Boundary Layer]

hey Reiskocher
nice release 👍 ...cant really say that i enjoyed the music, but thats just me

just a bit of constructive criticism:
I'm assuming you were goin for an exhibition drift, based on your drifting in the twisty middle section of the course. In that case, i think your drift angles could have been pushed a bit more, particularily on the first hairpin and the last 2 fast sweepers.

but as Swift said, the lines looked pretty clean, and car wasnt noticeably sliding away from you at any point

 

[RWD_Drifter]

Very Nice, like the drifting. Km/h really confused me. i was wondering how fast ur car was until i saw the Speedo

 

[drift punk]

i liked it, thought it was cool, the tempo of the music really went with how FAST you were going, damn, you were rollin!!! good control with all that speed.........nice.

 

[Reiskocher]

Thx to all! Hope the next one will be finished friday! more car´s, more angle
*g* settings for my 800hp tom´s chaser aren´t finished


greetz reiskocher

 

[drift punk]

cool, can't wait to see it.

 

[bamboo]

Nice

 

[Swift]

Nice

Ok bud....you've really got to say something else. You've said the same thing for the last 5 vids. I'm sure you have something more to say then that.

 

[ForcedInduction]

Interesting. Not quite enough angle for exhibition drifting and not quite enough speed for race drifting. A pretty good display of control though.

Exactly what i was thinking...

I think you are lacking angle because of a bit of understeering...i could tell that you weren't counter-steering nearly as much as you should...

Too much grip on your tires? Are you driving with sims? Are your TCS and ASM set to 0? Those may be the main problems of understeer...[in my opinion]

Pretty good otherwise...just work a bit more on your angle and try to fix that understeering.

 

[nk4e]

*g* settings for my 800hp tom´s chaser aren´t

I don't but it seems prob too much(prob the Fr drifter in me) good racing drift style, keep it up 👍

OFF topic: is it just me, or that Trial MT is a course that practices the basic fundamentals?

 

[Boundary Layer]

OFF topic: is it just me, or that Trial MT is a course that practices the basic fundamentals?

OFF Topic Reply: TM and Apricot Hill, IMO. What TM lacks though, is a decent hairpin, so I spend the majority of my time practicing on Apricot Hill.

 

[bamboo]

Ok bud....you've really got to say something else. You've said the same thing for the last 5 vids. I'm sure you have something more to say then that.

Yup I think I do this time.

You could of PM me about this Swift, but anyways the word “Nice ”…

First of all I use the word “Nice ” as a compliment to the time and effort that the person took to make and upload their GT drift video/clip. I use this word only for drift videos, delete…delete… “drift clips” that are what I think are not good for example there’s smoke but no angle, incomplete linking, drifting into incoming turn then clip is cut off, etc… but what can I say I do this also in my S15 and R34 clips as well. I rather say something “Nice ” than not say anything at all. As for the feedback well it’s a waist…

Second, I personally think that most feedback including the long ones to the new GT drifters are a waist. For example this comment left from ForcedInduction to Reiskocher’s FD clip. “Pretty good otherwise…just work a bit more on your angle and try to fix that understeering.” No offense or anything FI, I just had to pick an example. Back to the topic. Now personally I think “Pretty good…” was all that was needed like one simple word “Nice ”. I think the rest of the comment was pretty much a waist that’s why I rarely say anything else other than nice. Now how the hell would Reiskocher understand how to imply what FI stated “…work a bit more on your angle and try to fix that understeering.” From Reiskocher’s clip it was “Nice ” but we can all see that Reiskocher needs more practice and with Reiskocher’s current level of drifting, would he be able to have precise throttle control , counter steer, and the right setting so his FD would get more angle and fix the under steer. Probably not that’s why I don’t bother to add more comments other than the word “Nice ”. From my experience throttle control, counter steering, and right setting comes from trial and error, but neither the less it’s good to point the right direction for new GT drifters like myself. Just hope that new GT drifters would get better from trial and error and the word “Nice ” would be among many comments left behind to encourage them to get better and make more GT drift “Videos”. You’ll never know one word can go a long way.

Swift now do you understand the word “Nice ”.

Alright I’m ready to get flamed…

 

[ForcedInduction]

Second, I personally think that most feedback including the long ones to the new GT drifters are a waist. For example this comment left from ForcedInduction to Reiskocher’s FD clip. “Pretty good otherwise…just work a bit more on your angle and try to fix that understeering.” No offense or anything FI, I just had to pick an example. Back to the topic. Now personally I think “Pretty good…” was all that was needed like one simple word “Nice ”. I think the rest of the comment was pretty much a waist that’s why I rarely say anything else other than nice. Now how the hell would Reiskocher understand how to imply what FI stated “…work a bit more on your angle and try to fix that understeering.” From Reiskocher’s clip it was “Nice ” but we can all see that Reiskocher needs more practice and with Reiskocher’s current level of drifting, would he be able to have precise throttle control , counter steer, and the right setting so his FD would get more angle and fix the under steer.



Alright I’m ready to get flamed…

Then let this begin.

First of all, you would only say "nice" and no other comment after that if the technique is perfect. Sorry, it's not, and noone is perfect. It doesn't even take another 10 minutes to tell the guy what he's doing wrong.

Secondly, you seemed to cut off my comment to the very last sentence...if you looked at it from the top, you would've seen that I offered some trouble-shooting tips on getting the car sideways.

Thirdly, it's extremely weird to take examples of other people's constructive criticism as well as words of encouragement and flame them for taking the extra time to help the guy out. So basically you were saying that a short "nice" remark is better than a several sentences of advice? Our extra sentences of advice are obsolete?

Fourthly, if your definition of "nice" is SO GREAT, then we should all say "nice". Now that would help ALOT.............

Fifthly, if we do not tell new drifters about what they're doing wrong, they would think what they are doing is perfect, flawless, and great. Let's try to steer these guys in the right track. After all, this forum is here to help everyone and tell them what they're doing wrong.

Sixthly, you stated that "how the hell would they understand what understeering means..." How the hell do YOU know that he doesn't know? He may know. And if he doesn't, he will ask, we will answer him, and he will know.

Ultimately, words of advice would help and "nice" won't help. Oh yea, and respect people who are older than you are like Swift...he hasn't said a thing wrong about this.

Edit: it's "waste" not "waist"


P.S - I took the extra time to help you understand what the right thing to do is. I surely hope that you will also take the extra time to help new drifters. You should know better. After all, you're one of those people who can steer newcomers in the right direction. And if newcomers do not understand certain drift terms, atleast try to help them understand and not just say "he doesn't know what that means so why even bother"


-F.I.

/concluded

 

[Boundary Layer]

wow, that seemed overly harsh bamboo_R34
i think any confidence you just instilled in Reiskocher by your 'nice' comment was just brutally torn to shreds

and i disagree with your comments about not commenting on a beginner's technique, bamboo_R34.
Its not like it takes too much of an IQ to figure out what terms like 'more drift angle' or 'understeer' means. And if you dont know, there is a search button up there, or google. And, i think they might be explained in the GT3 manual.

Infact, if I were releasing a video, I'd appreciate it more if people would tell me what I can do to improve, as opposed to just a one-liner like "good work" or "nice".
I think constructive criticism is better than encouragement. It would give me some direction in what to focus practicing on, as opposed to just encouraging me to keep on doing what I may be doing wrong.
(that wording sounds akward to me, but I'm to tired to fix it)

Edit: sorry for repeating points already made by FI, he got to the submit button before i did, i guess

 

[bamboo]

You guys got the wrong message, Swift was just wondering why I say what I say and I explained.

First of all, you would only say "nice" and no other comment after that if the technique is perfect. Sorry, it's not, and noone is perfect. It doesn't even take another 10 minutes to tell the guy what he's doing wrong.

"First of all I use the word “Nice” as a compliment to the time and effort that the person took to make and upload their GT drift video/clip."

Secondly, you seemed to cut off my comment to the very last sentence...if you looked at it from the top, you would've seen that I offered some trouble-shooting tips on getting the car sideways.

"No offense or anything FI, I just had to pick an example." Since you were offended by this I should of use someone else's comment...

Thirdly, it's extremely weird to take examples of other people's constructive criticism as well as words of encouragement and flame them for taking the extra time to help the guy out. So basically you were saying that a short "nice" remark is better than a several sentences of advice? Our extra sentences of advice are obsolete?

You got the wrong message "Bud" I was just trying to explain how some comment doesn't help new GT drifter.

Fourthly, if your definition of "nice" is SO GREAT, then we should all say "nice". Now that would help ALOT.............

“…but neither the less it’s good to point the right direction for new GT drifters like myself”

Did I state that my definition of "Nice " was "SO GREAT". I don't think so...

Fifthly, if we do not tell new drifters about what they're doing wrong, they would think what they are doing is perfect, flawless, and great. Let's try to steer these guys in the right track. After all, this forum is here to help everyone and tell them what they're doing wrong.

Again “…but neither the less it’s good to point the right direction for new GT drifters like myself”

Funny... would new GT drifter think that their video is "flawless and great" after or before watching drift videos like Drifters Delight or Team FBI's video.

Ultimately, words of advice would help and "nice" won't help. Oh yea, and respect people who are older than you are like Swift...he hasn't said a thing wrong about this..

Again... “…but neither the less it’s good to point the right direction for new GT drifters like myself”

Again you got the wrong message FI, click here

Edit: it's "waste" not "waist"

I'm not perfect are you?

 

[ForcedInduction]

Sixthly, you stated that "how the hell would they understand what understeering means..." How the hell do YOU know that he doesn't know? He may know. And if he doesn't, he will ask, we will answer him, and he will know.



-F.I.

/concluded

You seemed to miss my last point also.


By the way, i was referring to Swift and his age. I'm 17. Swift is over 20. Respect NOT me. Respect Swift and what he has to say.

 

[bamboo]

You seemed to miss my last point also.


By the way, i was referring to Swift and his age. I'm 17. Swift is over 20. Respect NOT me. Respect Swift and what he has to say.

Omg... Did you see his clip or not... C'mon

Did you click on the link?

 

[ForcedInduction]

Omg... Did you see his clip or not... C'mon

Did you click on the link?

Yes i did see his video about 2 days ago. White FD? Deep forest? Lots of speed?

Link? Yes. What was you're point? Was it that you were older than me?

 

[bamboo]

P.S - I took the extra time to help you understand what the right thing to do is. I surely hope that you will also take the extra time to help new drifters. You should know better. After all, you're one of those people who can steer newcomers in the right direction. And if newcomers do not understand certain drift terms, atleast try to help them understand and not just say "he doesn't know what that means so why even bother"

Aright I'm pissed... "your time" to help me understand what? AWD drift? Just let it go.

 

[ForcedInduction]

Aright I'm pissed... "your time" to help me understand what? AWD drift? Just let it go.

It's right there. To help you understand that just saying "nice" is not helpful.

 

[bamboo]

Yes i did see his video about 2 days ago. White FD? Deep forest? Lots of speed?

Link? Yes. What was you're point? Was it that you were older than me?

You got the wrong message again... Did I or did I not insult Swift in anyway? I personally answered his question.

 

[bamboo]

It's right there. To help you understand that just saying "nice" is not helpful.

What do you think... Yes I know that saying "nice" is not helpful but who cares about me saying that. Omg... do you not get this:

"First of all I use the word “Nice” as a compliment to the time and effort that the person took to make and upload their GT drift video/clip."

Like I said before, I rather say someting nice than not say anything at all.

 

[ForcedInduction]

What do you think... Yes I know that saying "nice" is not helpful but who cares about me saying that. Omg... do you not get this:

Obviously, Swift cares. I do too.

I've noticed we've turned this clip thread into a flame war.
Let's just drop it.

 

[bamboo]

Aright since I'm pissed I'll end it here...

Course: Comlex String
Car: AWD
HP: No Limit
Tires: Sims

Deadline: 1-3-05

 

[ForcedInduction]

Aright since I'm pissed I'll end it here...

Course: Comlex String
Car: AWD
HP: No Limit
Tires: Sims

Deadline: 1-3-05

I accept. I will PM DR for the official challenge.

Apricot Hill ok with you?
Complex string will take about 30 mb. approx 6-7 minutes.

 

[Boundary Layer]

lol, its the "meet me by the monkeybars afterschool" drift challenge
cant wait to see it!

 

[drift punk]

great, another challenge. , tankspanker, you took my line...lol.

i say that to people"yea, o.k., i'll meet you after school then", oh, people hate that..lol

 

[nk4e]

OFF Topic Reply: TM and Apricot Hill, IMO. What TM lacks though, is a decent hairpin, so I spend the majority of my time practicing on Apricot Hill.

Well it was just a opinion
edit: how is the basic fundamentals? You have series of long turns which also mean you have to tune your car to a High HP for a beginning drifter. In Trial Mountain it has series of short turns that begining drifters have to get use to drifting, I spent most of my practice time in TM

 

[Boundary Layer]

how is the basic fundamentals? You have series of long turns which also mean you have to tune your car to a High HP for a beginning drifter. In Trial Mountain it has series of short turns that begining drifters have to get use to drifting, I spent most of my practice time in TM

well, as not to run the risk of turning this Drift Video Release -> turned Flame War thread into a Drifting Philosphy thread, I'm not going to describe in detail why I think Apricot Hill is just as good a course to learn on as TM.
Basically though, they both offer a good variety of turns, and there are multiple lines that can be taken through them as your drifting skill increases.
ie) A beginner doesnt have to use a high hp car, they can take each turn in sector 1 and 2 of Apricot Hill individually to get the knack of things, and gradually progress into linking as their skill permits it. The same is true of that sequence of turns before the backstraight on TM.

...Anyways, I'd sooner turn this this back over to users who have more comments about the video. I think that was its initial intent, before all that 'nice stuff' happened (as entertaining as that was ).

edit: sent you a pm nightkids4ever, in response to your post (#31). If you want to discuss things there, we can.