FGT Championship A-spec sucks!

[brambos]

The snobbery on this forum is really getting out of hand. If you want to be elitist about your gear and your wheel skills, prove it on a trackday in real life.

GT5 is a video game, made for the PS3, so it should be playable for the average PS3 owner with PS3 equipment. The box says 'compatible with wheels x and y' not 'wheel required'.

Also, I have zero-tolerance for games where the save-points are too far apart. GT5 is guilty of that, so I simply won't waste my time on those sections. I won't arrange my busy life around the silly, unreasonable requirements of a videogame.

Personally, I just gave up on Nascar and the FGT races. They weren't fun. I won't lose sleep over not golding them. Neither will I do the 4hr+ endurance races. I have nicer things to do with my scarce free time.

 

[tdk]

The snobbery on this forum is really getting out of hand. If you want to be elitist about your gear and your wheel skills, prove it on a trackday in real life.

GT5 is a video game, made for the PS3, so it should be playable for the average PS3 owner with PS3 equipment. The box says 'compatible with wheels x and y' not 'wheel required'.

Also, I have zero-tolerance for games where the save-points are too far apart. GT5 is guilty of that, so I simply won't waste my time on those sections. I won't arrange my busy life around the silly, unreasonable requirements of a videogame.

Personally, I just gave up on Nascar and the FGT races. They weren't fun. I won't lose sleep over not golding them. Neither will I do the 4hr+ endurance races. I have nicer things to do with my scarce free time.

Thank you. All of that snobbery and they're probably not even good enough to beat some of us with the DS3.

 

[luchre]

Cool. Reading thru this topic, maybe I'm a better driver than I give myself credit for because while I haven't done the FGT, I just grinded thru Nascar with a controller and without a problem. It just kind of came and went, like all the A-specs seem to do.

As to FGT, can't comment, never been into the FGT cars because I know they're not real and if I want real I can choose from several F1 games on PS3 & PC.

However I do agree with anyone who wants the ability to save game between championship races. GT4 managed it and it meant the game could provide a few meatier race series with breaks as opposed to to the endless rounds of glorified Sunday Cups GT5 supplies.

 

[Possum-Eater]

The snobbery on this forum is really getting out of hand. If you want to be elitist about your gear and your wheel skills, prove it on a trackday in real life.

GT5 is a video game, made for the PS3, so it should be playable for the average PS3 owner with PS3 equipment. The box says 'compatible with wheels x and y' not 'wheel required'.

Also, I have zero-tolerance for games where the save-points are too far apart. GT5 is guilty of that, so I simply won't waste my time on those sections. I won't arrange my busy life around the silly, unreasonable requirements of a videogame.

Personally, I just gave up on Nascar and the FGT races. They weren't fun. I won't lose sleep over not golding them. Neither will I do the 4hr+ endurance races. I have nicer things to do with my scarce free time.

👍

 

[Shinzah]

The snobbery on this forum <snobbery snip>

Enough Said.

 

[TommyWizard]

DS3, Skid recovery force On, Max Downforce, Tranny to 261, lower suspension


Job done! Gold on first 3, messed up Nurburgring (so did AI), Gold Monza, still had enough points to leave and finish first.

 

[loz567]

I did the FGT Championship with a DS3 - Didnt change setup apart from gearing - Auto Transmission - All gold first try.

It's not that hard if you put your mind to it.

yep and me rain races are just too easy as well, i accidentally put hard tyres on for the whole championship as well, back then i didnt know soft tyres couldnt go off in non-endurance races

 

[dez_nutz52]

DS3, Skid recovery force On, Max Downforce, Tranny to 261, lower suspension


Job done! Gold on first 3, messed up Nurburgring (so did AI), Gold Monza, still had enough points to leave and finish first.

Just so anyone who hasn't done this event knows, the first time I got gold on 4 events and quit 2 (cote a'zur & suzuka), I placed 2nd overall. The 2nd time I got gold, but if you are unlucky like I was you aren't alone. Not sure what's up the Nur track, the ai spun out on what seemed like every other lap at the chicane. I was cheating on that track so I had large lead and the ai spinning out was just improving it.

I eventually got gold on all the races with a ds3, and best advice for this is to use the driving aids, cheat corners when you can, grind fuji, indy, & suzuka until you can drive them with the fgt with your eyes closed then do the championship event. Driving aids make the fgt handle like a battleship so hairpins are a lot harder but it's better than it driving like it's on wet ice spinning out all the time. I don't know what it's like with a racing wheel, but it is useless with a ds3. I ended up winning with out any changes to the tuning, whatever was default (only because I forgot to redo it when I got my second FGT). I "cheated" on Monza and the little Nur track, you can cut through the chicane at almost full speed which saves a bunch of time on those two making it a lot easier to win. With the aids on, Fuji & Indy Road are manageable if you know the tracks, running 20 laps knowing any mistake means you will probably lose adds a whole level of fun... Cote a'zure is a beast and suzuka is my nemesis track already so it was no big surprise I had trouble with it.

After a couple of tries I got gold on Suzuka but it was a fluke. It was a rain race, the ai started out with racing slicks and ran really slow, then hit the pit around the 3rd or 4th lap which gave me a monster lead. The guy suggesting running the endurance race, is sound advice; However, even after 4+ hours on it twice I still suck at that track. I used the x2010 last and my personal best was like 5 consecutive laps without sliding off the track, spinning out, having to almost stop because I entered the hairpin too fast, etc...

Cote a'zur I wasn't so lucky on... Several several hours of racing that one again and again and again... Best advice for anyone who doesn't have gold on this one, get 1st early and then block the ai as best you canfrom getting around you. I wanted to break my ds3 after one unfortunate race and that was only time I have ever raged out playing GT5. After hours of trying it, I managed to get and hold 1st place through 19 laps. On the 20th lap coming around the curve after the hairpin (before the curve going into the long straight w/ the chicane) the 2nd place ai bumped me, I ended up crashing into the curved part of the barrier before the next curve and got stuck there because the ai cars kept bumping me back into it when I tried to get out as they were going around the next curve. Finished last and had to take a break for a while after that.

 

[tinram]

The snobbery on this forum is really getting out of hand. If you want to be elitist about your gear and your wheel skills, prove it on a trackday in real life.

GT5 is a video game, made for the PS3, so it should be playable for the average PS3 owner with PS3 equipment. The box says 'compatible with wheels x and y' not 'wheel required'.

Also, I have zero-tolerance for games where the save-points are too far apart. GT5 is guilty of that, so I simply won't waste my time on those sections. I won't arrange my busy life around the silly, unreasonable requirements of a videogame.

Personally, I just gave up on Nascar and the FGT races. They weren't fun. I won't lose sleep over not golding them. Neither will I do the 4hr+ endurance races. I have nicer things to do with my scarce free time.

No need to complain if the save points are too far apart or the races are too hard, the game or parts of the game may not be intended for you.

Some folks like me see this as a cheaper alternative for trackdays, so I would set some time for it. I had to stay away from trackdays and autocross because the economic times was not good to me. I do not think this makes me an elitists.

 

[JeffKill]

I'll admit that I absolutely hated the FGT when I first drove it. But after spending a couple hours practicing the tracks you race in the series in practice mode, I couldn't get enough of it. The FGT championship ended up being my favorite series in A-spec.

To the OP. As others have mentioned, if you're looking for a guaranteed win, give it a try with SRF turned on. It should make it much easier with the DS3.

 

[Hig-GT]

I think the main thing the OP is saying is that usually, in all of the other races, if you spend time tuning the suspension, the LSD, the transmission, the downforce etc. you get rewarded as it gives you an advantage over the AI, which would make the game true to racing. However, with the FGT, even if you do spend ages tuning everything I mentioned, you still don't gain much, I don't think for one minute the OP is saying that he wants an easy win on every race, I think he is just saying that it is frustrating that you can't tune the FGT to give you that extra advantage.

If you have to use driving aids to complete this event then there is nothing wrong with that, unlike what some others have implied. Same with cutting corners, if it is something you feel you need to do, then go for it, it is your game at the end of the day.

To add, I completed the NASCAR Event pretty much first time, but I definately didn't enjoy it. I haven't done the FGT yet, tbh I'm not a fan of the car, but as I've read this thread I've felt the need to go and complete this event so I might try and complete it tomorrow, first without driving aids and then maybe with them if I can't manage it. Once I adjust to it I should be fine though (hopefully).

Keep enjoying GT5 playing your way

 

[LeMAD]

People, if you play with a PS3 controller, use the "skid recovery" option. And stop complaining.

That championship is really easy with skid recovery.

(Though we should be able to save between and even during races).

 

[JeffKill]

I don't think for one minute the OP is saying that he wants an easy win on every race

Oh really??

I've run through every setup thread, and while it's enough to win (at least the first race anyway, that's as far as I've gotten), there is no setup to absolutely dominate.

And by "absolutely dominate", you think that he is saying he wants a challenging race??

 

[dez_nutz52]

People, if you play with a PS3 controller, use the "skid recovery" option. And stop complaining.

That championship is really easy with skid recovery.

(Though we should be able to save between and even during races).

Wow, great advice Mr Shumacher... There you have it, if you use a ds3 just use skid recovery and magically this whole event is super easy even with a ds3. Man I wish I knew this when I did it.

 

[Hig-GT]

And by "absolutely dominate", you think that he is saying he wants a challenging race??

You can absolutely dominate a race without running miles ahead. You can so called dominate a race by leading it from start to finish. You don't have to be thirty to fourty seconds ahead. I feel you are taking this too seriously.

I will probably attempt the FGT championship with my controller over my wheel as I feel I am not yet fast enough with my wheel (had it a week and not tried and FGT yet). I plan on using no aids except for ABS, but if I have to whack them on I will. As long as you try to complete the series without the aids first then I see no problem with re-attempting with the aids. It is just one of those things.

 

[JeffKill]

You can absolutely dominate a race without running miles ahead. You can so called dominate a race by leading it from start to finish. You don't have to be thirty to fourty seconds ahead. I feel you are taking this too seriously.

No, Im not actually. Our opinions just differ when it comes to completely dominating a race. To me, just because you remain in 1st the entire race, doesn't mean domination. If you win by .100 of a second, it was a close/challenging race IMO.

If you read my other comment in this thread, you'll notice I don't care how the OP plays the game, and just recommended an assist to help him finish the championship and be done with it (as he asked).

 

[Hig-GT]

I best write to the BBC and tell them that they should hire you instead of everyone who currently does the F1 because all of them said Vettle dominated at Sao Paulo even though Webber was close behind.

Expect a fantastic job offer to come in the post in the next few days!

 

[JeffKill]

I best write to the BBC and tell them that they should hire you instead of everyone who currently does the F1 because all of them said Vettle dominated at Sao Paulo even though Webber was close behind.

Expect a fantastic job offer to come in the post in the next few days!

Great, looking forward to it.

I will agree to disagree with you and the announcers on BBC.

 

[NoonenF1]

I dominated Fuji (won by 6 seconds), Indy (won by 20 seconds), and Monza (won by 5 seconds, including two spinouts). Ran a tough race at the Nurburgring, but ended up pulling away with 5 laps to go. Finished last at Monaco (got caught in a traffic jam (at the Loews hairpin), raced up to third, spun and decided to skip the event) and Suzuka (spun too many times, gave up). Finished 2nd in the standings by 5 points. I did use some basic setup modifications, just played with the top end (gear ratios) and brake bias. Not sure if I'll try it again. I mean it takes like three hours.

I was going to do it again today but decided to give the Indy 500 a run. In that race I made big mistakes on tire wear at the start (spun several times when the rear-right blew out, ran a lap time that was like 3 minutes with pit stop), raced all the way back and was leading with 5 to go and then I ran out of fuel Two fails. I think I am just going to stick with online racing.

 

[AllyAdair]

I Just finished this Championship... Won the last 2 races by 40 secs + Because of the AI pitting on lap 1.

 

[scotchio]

First time I tried the series on FGT I was a bit crap. Gave up by the third race.

So I have been trying the races individually. So far I have golded Fuji and Indy, I struggle with Cote D'Azur, my best finish is 5th, I have got a silver in Nurburg and golded Monza and Suzuka.

Suzuka in the wet required me to put the driving line back on so I could see the track in all that spray.

Anyway, I'm hoping after the practice I can put it all together and win the series in the near future.👍

It's the hardest races I've had so far. (next to the Historic racing one). But I will win... oh yes I will.

 

[itstheDRE4M]

the only thing I've hated with this Championship is the AI Drivers.

On Cote'd'Azur I spun out and ended up 30seconds behind with 15laps to go. I kept having to battle the AI for lines since they're on freaking RAILS.. even if I already spun they don't feel the need to 'go around me or brake' they just slam right into me causing me to spin around again.

with 8laps to go I closed the gap to 14seconds and around the 5th turn three AI Drivers spun and completely had the road blocked... like wtf.

 

[MetalJet]

I wasn't a huge fan of the FGT either. Too hard to control with a sixaxis, but after many hours of practice, I can control it enough to win the events. I haven't done the championship because of time constraints, but I have golded all the individual events. It took forever to find a good setup (suspension) to get rid of the understeer. I like a car with oversteer and the normal setup doesn't work for me. I can't do any "shortcuts" that involve grass or dirt with this setup. The car will go out of control if it's off the track.

 

[scotchio]

Anyone have racing tips for Cote D'Azur, it's the only race I can't seem to catch up on when I lose places.

In fact the opposition seems to get further in front.

 

[MetalJet]

Anyone have racing tips for Cote D'Azur, it's the only race I can't seem to catch up on when I lose places.

In fact the opposition seems to get further in front.

The car has to be able to get around the little hairpin quickly. I had a lot of trouble with understeer, but played with the settings until the car took it well. You lose all kinds of time there if you can't make the turn at very low speed without hitting the wall.

I put in times of 1:15:xx to 1:17:xx to win that. Being consistant is difficult. Make sure you tune your tranny down to top speed of around 199. You will have quicker accel than the AI. My suspension settings make the car a little twitchy, so you would have to practice a lot before doing the event... but if you want it, l'll be happy to share it with you when I get home.

 

[scotchio]

The car has to be able to get around the little hairpin quickly. I had a lot of trouble with understeer, but played with the settings until the car took it well. You lose all kinds of time there if you can't make the turn at very low speed without hitting the wall.

I put in times of 1:15:xx to 1:17:xx to win that. Being consistant is difficult. Make sure you tune your tranny down to top speed of around 199. You will have quicker accel than the AI. My suspension settings make the car a little twitchy, so you would have to practice a lot before doing the event... but if you want it, l'll be happy to share it with you when I get home.

Yes please. I also put my top speed down to 199, but that tight turn does pose a problem.

 

[Solidjake330]

I tried to do the championship about 5 times!

I finally settled down yesterday to get it done, gold on every race but I bombed the last race in last place.... I'll redo it soon with a rebuilt motor.

 

[paoloevans]

Longer races are better. More realistic than these 3-5 lap jobs!

 

[crash79]

After reading your posts I'm not looking forward to this race!

 

[ElSecundo]

On Cote'd'Azur I spun out and ended up 30seconds behind with 15laps to go. I kept having to battle the AI for lines since they're on freaking RAILS..

It might be even worse at this track, because there really aren't a lot of effective driving lines. There's basically one line around the track, with few passing zones. The better the AI drivers are (and they'll be pretty good at that level), the closer they'll stick to a good driving line. Not much room for error here...