FM Vs GT - Discussion Thread (read the first post before you post)

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That is different than what Turn 10 has stated. In fact, they had released a patch due to multiple livery layers shifting during races. I remember this one time, the cow I created on the side of my car (made the spotted cow logo from Spotted Cow beer), and the eyes and hooves shifted from the rest of the image during and after the race. Looked funny as hell.
Weird. Sounds like a big waste of resources.
 
You are doing the exact same thing he accused you of doing. Bringing up Grid and Le man 24 Hours does not help your case, of-course the features in GT5 has been done by other games but no other game has it all in one package, If Grid has the best damage modelling it doesn't have weather, if Shift 2 has the best night racing it doesn't have weather or track creator (even if it is a striped out version). If you want to experience everything that GT5 has to offer here is the list of games you need to go buy: Rfactor (Number of cars {mainly because of the community}), Iracing (Physics), Mario Kart (Damage), PGR 4 (weather), Shift 2 (Night racing), Modnation Racers (Track creator) and some other things i most likely forgot. GT5 might not have perfected any of the above but am glad that these things are all in one package, this is the Forza part of the forum so it will come as no surprise if we don't come to an agreement but each person should respect the efforts put out by these developers.

Sorry, I lost respect for PD when I played GT5. I dont respect the fact they 1/2 assed everything in the latest GT5.

Like you said above...I WOULD rather play F12010 than play F1 cars in GT5. I would rather be able to play awesome night racing on every track in Shift2, than a select few in GT5. I did find making tracks in ModNation much more fun with more abilities than GT5. Dirt 2-3 for Rally...etc. etc. I can go on.

You seem to think its a good thing that GT5 tried to cram all that in together. Little secret, it isnt a good thing. A ton of crap followed by more helpings of crap...is still crap.

So if someone wants to cornhole themselves to one game, thats fine. Myself, I would rather have fun with 5 games that do well in what they were aiming for.
 
Them's fighting words, words I wholeheartedley agree with. Forza doesn't deliver as much as GT5 does, but what it does deliver is of consistently better quality and finish. 👍 The list of games supplied to show what you would have to buy to get everything GT5 has in it is missing one important foot note: 'All of these games, *will* surpass GT5s half cocked attempt at this feature, almost infinitely'

Nice dusk shadow video of GT5. I can see the shadows flicking about and being turned on and off like lightbullbs. I can also see where the track is stitched together and it runs like utter crap. I bought my PS3 for GT5, being a long time fan. I then sold it because GT5 was crap. 'Nuff said really.

Guess I was spoilt by Forza.
 
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Weird. Sounds like a big waste of resources.

I assume the developers know more than we do, and probably do it for a reason.

As for what GT is, it's a compilation of games, just like Forza is a compilation of games.
 
Vaxxtx
Sorry, I lost respect for PD when I played GT5. I dont respect the fact they 1/2 assed everything in the latest GT5.

Like you said above...I WOULD rather play F12010 than play F1 cars in GT5. I would rather be able to play awesome night racing on every track in Shift2, than a select few in GT5. I did find making tracks in ModNation much more fun with more abilities than GT5. Dirt 2-3 for Rally...etc. etc. I can go on.

You seem to think its a good thing that GT5 tried to cram all that in together. Little secret, it isnt a good thing. A ton of crap followed by more helpings of crap...is still crap.

So if someone wants to cornhole themselves to one game, thats fine. Myself, I would rather have fun with 5 games that do well in what they were aiming for.

You might think its crap but its not, to race with my buddies at 4:30 am is amazing. People say it's not weather on all track... ok but the tracks that have weather makes sense. The Ring, Suzuka, LeMans, Monza. Suzuka rain track is amazing. When the sun comes out, and your windsheild finially dries makes cockpit view that much better. The 24 hour layout is simply amazing seeing the tents and spectators with the smoke is awsome. The track creator is not the best in the business however it does the job. I love togue , and the tracks people create, name and call there home track is giving me a great touge experience, especially when I beat them on their home track. In your eyes you see it as being cramed crap, but IMO It's not, they might not be perfected however they are making my experience with GT5 a great one. The game is getting better and better, and with some more polishing GT5 can turn out even better.
 
Probably because I'm the only one who is not posting silly pictures.

Can you honestly tell me why you come to this section of the forums since you clearly don't have much good to say to anyone? You seem to be rubbing allot of people the wrong way over here in case you haven't noticed.
 
But, that's only because you spend your time here making up silly claims & then running to the Brony thread when you're asked to back them up, right?

Interesting, if they need backing up then why do I need to support them, unless there are pretty obvious, then they wont need support, right?
 
Interesting, if they need backing up then why do I need to support them, unless there are pretty obvious, then they wont need support, right?

That would be true IF a whole bunch of assumptions are made.
1) You know what you're talking about
2) You're a trustworthy guy
3) You have no agenda, consciously or sub-consciously

And the list goes on. However it would also require faith on our part that everything you're saying is without reproach, but being that all of the above seems not to be extended by you to others it's pretty difficult to expect the same. Don't you think?
 
You might think its crap but its not, to race with my buddies at 4:30 am is amazing. People say it's not weather on all track... ok but the tracks that have weather makes sense. The Ring, Suzuka, LeMans, Monza. Suzuka rain track is amazing. When the sun comes out, and your windsheild finially dries makes cockpit view that much better. The 24 hour layout is simply amazing seeing the tents and spectators with the smoke is awsome. The track creator is not the best in the business however it does the job. I love togue , and the tracks people create, name and call there home track is giving me a great touge experience, especially when I beat them on their home track. In your eyes you see it as being cramed crap, but IMO It's not, they might not be perfected however they are making my experience with GT5 a great one. The game is getting better and better, and with some more polishing GT5 can turn out even better.

I am glad you enjoy it. Lots of people do. I cant relate, at all though. I really cant grasp how people (that HAVE played other titles) still load up GT5 and get excited. Its just my opinion though.

I still think its 98% crap though. I couldnt take more a few minutes of the horrid sound to be honest, thats what made me frist cringe. I guess with a certain track, and a certain car, it can LOOK pretty. But when it comes down to the meat, like tire pressure tuning, 10 ton AI on rails, engine sound, no custom cars, no damage, online physics differ from offline, paint chips, and track markers that are made of steel instead of foam, I call that crap. I really cant get past it.

Interesting, if they need backing up then why do I need to support them, unless there are pretty obvious, then they wont need support, right?

You make no sense.
 
I see we're going to play the 'stupid' card, here. :rolleyes:

I wont play it unless you play it. Apart from the feeling of being Stalked BTW.

That would be true IF a whole bunch of assumptions are made.
1) You know what you're talking about
2) You're a trustworthy guy
3) You have no agenda, consciously or sub-consciously

And the list goes on. However it would also require faith on our part that everything you're saying is without reproach, but being that all of the above seems not to be extended by you to others it's pretty difficult to expect the same. Don't you think?

Its all about sub context, which I think is what matters most on this thread, in this section in fact.
 
To echo the others, you make absolutely no sense....Then again, that seems to be your posting style when it comes to Forza facts.
 
Funny, other people seems to think otherwise.
I didn't realize the definition of the word "people", meant one.

But, the simple fact is, more people in this thread have argued your "points" far more than the 1 or 2 folks who agreed with, what were really just a rare, well constructed post by you. The rest of your other posts are just nonsense ones that look like flame bait at times.
 
I didn't realize the definition of the word "people", meant one.

But, the simple fact is, more people in this thread have argued your "points" far more than the 1 or 2 folks who agreed with, what were really just a rare, well constructed post by you.

True, but then there are for example the multiple GT5 graphic glitches of the standard cars posted on this section, a lot of people see them, they know that they are glitches, and they are never address as "flamebait", in fact they are never identified as glitches at all.

Also logic is never determinate by democracy, is rather determinate and tested by experience, which I think is what this thread is all about, or at least is its mayor intention.
 
True, but then there are for example the multiple GT5 graphic glitches of the standard cars posted on this section, a lot of people see them, they know that they are glitches, and they are never address as "flamebait", in fact they are never identified as glitches at all.
There is a difference between what they do & what you do.
 
There is a difference between what they do & what you do.

Really?
I am curious whether the "gameplay" model car is actually the players car. I think it is an AI or secondary players car. It is impossible to get that kind of camera angle on your own car without the use of photomode. In game, the players car has more details than that of an AI or secondary player, so this comparison might not be accurate.

I wonder if he acknowledged that the pre-race camera in FM3 rotates around the car before the race starts.

With that said, I wish to have met you under different circumstances.
 
Really?
I wonder if he acknowledged that the pre-race camera in FM3 rotates around the car before the race starts.

With that said, I wish to have met you under different circumstances.
Yes, really.
He is not outright saying it is not the player's car, but he is wrong. It's a far cry from some of the misinformation you have spread as fact.

This is just a deja vu post, so I'm stopping here. Most in this thread are aware of how you choose to present the Forza series.
 
Vaxxtx
I am glad you enjoy it. Lots of people do. I cant relate, at all though. I really cant grasp how people (that HAVE played other titles) still load up GT5 and get excited. Its just my opinion though.

I still think its 98% crap though. I couldnt take more a few minutes of the horrid sound to be honest, thats what made me frist cringe. I guess with a certain track, and a certain car, it can LOOK pretty. But when it comes down to the meat, like tire pressure tuning, 10 ton AI on rails, engine sound, no custom cars, no damage, online physics differ from offline, paint chips, and track markers that are made of steel instead of foam, I call that crap. I really cant get past it.

You make no sense.

No damage? When the last time you played the game? Engine sounds are pretty good with my 7.1 I will give you some cars sound like crap, but the exhaust upgrade visually and sound wise is awsome. When hitting SSR5 club with my boys and hearing the aftermarket exhaust drown out my stock exhaust puts a smile on my face, this does not happen in forza 3 I'm praying we get upgraded sounds as we did in FM2 In FM4. I agree with you 100% with the liveries, FM is the king in that department. There are some people who don't care about liveries however. I don't understnad why people hate the paint chips, I love the fact that GT has real paint colors and name.
 
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No damage? When the last time you played the game? Engine sounds are pretty good with my 7.1 I will give you some cars sound like crap, but the exhaust upgrade visually and sound wise is awsome. When hitting SSR5 club with my boys and hearing the aftermarket exhaust drown out my stock exhaust puts a smile on my face, this does not happen in forza 3 I'm praying we get upgraded sounds as we did in FM2 In FM4. I agree with you 100% with the liveries, FM is the king in that department. There are some people who don't care about liveries however. I don't understnad why people hate the paint chips, I love the fact that GT has real paint colors and name.

I would take the better stock exhaust sounds on the cars in FM3 then a select number of decent upgrade sounds.
 
And this is where I intervene...

Engine sounds are pretty good with my 7.1

Don't start this again, please. IF (keyword: IF) what you're implying is the game sounds better, as in completely different from a 2-channel source, the answer is no. Nothing changes, you don't "unlock" additional sound samples, and around 60-70% of the cars sound nothing like they should, aftermarket muffler or no aftermarket muffler -- scratch that, they (the larger percentage of cars that sound absolutely horrible) sound even worse with an aftermarket muffler. How'd they manage to do that is nothing short of spectacular.

Again, I've seen this beginning statement far too many times and I do apologize beforehand if all you were implying is that the samples themselves are more...let's say, profound with a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 setup then I'd agree.


I will give you some cars sound like crap, but the exhaust upgrade visually and sound wise is awsome.

Visual improvement is a plus, what I don't find to be a plus is having the stock samples sound like tripe, then going to apply an aftermarket muffler and it sounds more like tripe than it already did. That just...that just doesn't even compute for me.

I don't understnad why people hate the paint chips, I love the fact that GT has real paint colors and name.

Because instead of a proper color palette with the exact same intent and purpose, there are chips you have to collect...which then means if you want whatever color it is what to paint your car in you'd better hope to the heavens you or someone else has it -- otherwise you're 🤬 out of luck. It's just a tactless feature.
 
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