Ford Mustang Thread: 2011 General Talk

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I want to see what they put under it, first. I'd better not see a live axle back there: they've done a good job, but I think it's finally time to put that setup to rest.
 
Oh, you can bet it will probably have an LRA. I can't see Ford giving up their "hey, look how cheap our car is compared to yours" advantage that easily. Keep it good-looking, keep it cheap, and they'll still sell every one that they build.
 
YSSMAN
Oh, you can bet it will probably have an LRA. I can't see Ford giving up their "hey, look how cheap our car is compared to yours" advantage that easily. Keep it good-looking, keep it cheap, and they'll still sell every one that they build.
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Yeah...there's a couple little problems with that...and one of them's bigger than the other.

The big one is called Camaro. The little one is Challenger. Ford might keep a price advantage, but with the rest of their line moving upmarket in coming years, you'd think Ford'd try and do the same with the Mustang. If they don't, they'll be lagging WAY behind the Camaro in refinement, and about even with the Dodge.
 
Prosthetic
The Comaro is a lot more then the Stang isn't it?

How much would a Camaro V8 be compared to the Mustang GT V8?
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Only a couple thousand more, base for base price. I'm sure the V8 Camaro will be a couple thousand more than a Mustang V8 as well, probably a tad over $30K to keep it from getting close to the C6 Corvette.
 
Thing is, if Ford doesn't give the Mustang GT a significant power boost, the Camaro V6 will be almost as fast.
 
GT500 pics/story here

I hate how squashed the headlights look compared to the rest of the hoodline. Reminds me of those disproportionate cartoons of huge, muscular men with a tiny head or legs.
 
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Prosthetic
How much would a Camaro V8 be compared to the Mustang GT V8?
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A top-line Mustang GT is likely to run you anywhere between $27-32K (depending on model and options), however, the Camaro SS (V8) will likely start somewhere around $30K flat. Considering that the V6 Camaro LS and LT will have the same BHP as the Mustang and only be about 100/200 lbs heavier, that will likely be the main competitor with the Mustang until their new V8 model debuts... Which will likely increase the price.
 
YSSMAN
Oh, you can bet it will probably have an LRA. I can't see Ford giving up their "hey, look how cheap our car is compared to yours" advantage that easily. Keep it good-looking, keep it cheap, and they'll still sell every one that they build.
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YSSMAN
A top-line Mustang GT is likely to run you anywhere between $27-32K (depending on model and options), however, the Camaro SS (V8) will likely start somewhere around $30K flat. Considering that the V6 Camaro LS and LT will have the same BHP as the Mustang and only be about 100/200 lbs heavier, that will likely be the main competitor with the Mustang until their new V8 model debuts... Which will likely increase the price.
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Thing is... Ford is going to be sticking to the modular platform which has been in use long enough that it doesn't matter much at all in terms of cost WHAT mod motor they use. If they bump the bore and stroke of the 4.6 out a bit, it's a new rotating assembly to do up and that's about it. Direct injection might be a bit of a pain on the 4V heads but still doable without a HYOOOGE retool I'd bet, add a bit higher compression and that 400hp 5.0L mod looks real effective.

I'd be quite willing to bet that it comes in at under 27k even with a decent 4V motor. ;)
 
Thing is with the new Mustang, its the rumored SVO return that has me more excited than a Modular Redux. Its nothing against the V8, but a 300 (ish) BHP Twin-Turbocharged I4 sounds like a great idea for something "special" to start.

Or the Twin-Turbocharged 340-400 BHP V6.

EcoBoost FTMFW!

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But yes... It'll be good to see a strong V8 option. Between the L98/LS3 and the newly redone 5.7L HEMI, a 300 BHP Mustang just won't cut the mustard any longer.
 
The thing about people wanting the V8 is alot of times the sound, so if they could somehow tune the exhaust of the V6 so it sounded like a V8, then they could theoretically move quite a few more V6's!
 
Jim Prower
Yeah...there's a couple little problems with that...and one of them's bigger than the other.

The big one is called Camaro. The little one is Challenger. Ford might keep a price advantage, but with the rest of their line moving upmarket in coming years, you'd think Ford'd try and do the same with the Mustang. If they don't, they'll be lagging WAY behind the Camaro in refinement, and about even with the Dodge.
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You mean like how the Mustang blasted right through the 80's and 90's, while the Camaro died off (with the Challenger gone long before that)? Never underestimate the power of "cheap". Both the Camaro and Challenger will have to be light-years ahead of the Mustang to beat the price gap. The Camaro may have been the better drive all along, but that didn't stop the sales from crawling along (relative to the Mustang). But quite honestly, all 3 are living dinosaurs. They're all too heavy, too slow for the quoted power, and too poor handling compared to their import competition. And their success depends entirely on which direction the oil market goes.

Buy one anyway, though. In 35 years, you, too, can send your kids to school with a mint SS/SRT8/GT500 at Barrett-Jackson. :D
 
harrytuttle
They're all too heavy, too slow for the quoted power, and too poor handling compared to their import competition.
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Eh?

I can understand it with the Challenger, thats a given, but with the Camaro? A quoted weight of 3700 lbs puts it only a couple hundred above the last 4th Gen model, roughly the same territory where the current Mustang exists. Given the V6 Camaro has 304 BHP and a six-speed gearbox, it'd be a fair assumption to make it as fast as the Mustang GT, which certainly is in the hunt with cars like the Mazda RX8, Nissan 350Z and Audi TT. I'm not sure where you're going with this, but both the Mustang and the Camaro are plenty relevant...
 
The LRA question is in fact the $36,000 one. No one really knows outside of Ford. With the Camaro and Challenger both going LRA, and for that matter, keeping prices low, you would think that Ford would take the time to introduce it... But, given their reasoning from before, they just as well may not.

We'll see.
 
Whoops, yes, that would be the correct use of letters...

On that note:



Pretty nice, I think. Hard to tell with all those pesky shadows!
 
Autoblog has practically nude pics of the 2010 Mustang, couldn't figure out how to post the pics here.

One pic in the "interior gallery" shows a combined 18mpg, that's not good, my Ute kills that fuel economy.
 
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The Mustang Goes "MOOOOOOO"

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Progress is progress, and I can't say that I don't like it.
 
I'll show you MYtake, these renderings were commisioned by Automovil Panamericano, a local car magazine, and I photoshopped what the car may look like, both photoshops are mine. Yeah, its freaking butt-ugly as sin.

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PLASTIC MUSTANG FTW!!!!
 
The shape is starting to look great. The modernized rear deck, greenhouse and headlights are pretty neat.

I would like for the retro foglights to be smaller and more integrated into the pillars at the side of the grille, instead of sitting there looking like a pair of Hellas some homeboy stuck on there for a laugh...

The title gave me a laugh... thanks, you made my day! :lol:
 
They were working on this for nearly 2 years and that is all they came up with? The Ford E-series had a bigger styling change.
 

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