Ford threatening legal action over Ram

[niky]

How many of those fourteen or fifteen tons are in the motor?

EDIT: Scratch that... you can get it with a gasoline motor? How bizarre. Also, Motor Trend suggests 15k lbs, about seven tons, rather than 30k.

Don't see how any civilian, short of a heavy construction contractor, would need something like that!

 

[SniperRed3]

That's why upwards of stage 4 its purely for commercial use. The F-650 2014 comes in a pro loader configuration with a gvwr of 26,000 lbs then you have the diesel, which weighs 29,000lbs and the gas version weighs 30,000lbs. The F-750 weighs 37,000lbs which is actually stage 8.

 

[psntomaz]

How many of those fourteen or fifteen tons are in the motor?

EDIT: Scratch that... you can get it with a gasoline motor? How bizarre. Also, Motor Trend suggests 15k lbs, about seven tons, rather than 30k.

Don't see how any civilian, short of a heavy construction contractor, would need something like that!

Most 3500+ are Chassis Cabs very few are with beds.

http://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts/ram/long-hauler.html

The Class 5 Ram LongHauler Concept was designed for the Farmer Hauling Live Stock, A Racing Team traveling long distances. Without moving up to a Class 6 Truck

 

[SniperRed3]

Thats a class 8.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Thats a class 8.

Which you need a CDL to drive anyways. I think Class 5 is the cutoff before you get into that territory.

 

[McLaren]

How many of those fourteen or fifteen tons are in the motor?

EDIT: Scratch that... you can get it with a gasoline motor? How bizarre. Also, Motor Trend suggests 15k lbs, about seven tons, rather than 30k.

Don't see how any civilian, short of a heavy construction contractor, would need something like that!

Surprisingly, a lot of F650s sold end up as show vehicles or limos of some sort or are sold as competitors to the International RXTs for people to show just how much money they really have.

 

[SniperRed3]

Which you need a CDL to drive anyways. I think Class 5 is the cutoff before you get into that territory.

at Class 7 you require a B licence. the CDL comes in at stage 3.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

at Class 7 you require a B licence. the CDL comes in at stage 3.

A B License requires you to have a CDL there are three levels A, B and C. I only know about CDL because my father is an over the road truck driver and has been one the last 12 years. He has all three classifications as required from the CMV since is first job was Hazmat hauls. Now the class may be 7 since I don't follow truck classifications all that much beyond 4 but if 7 requires a B then that means you have a CDL. Other than that not sure what you're trying to say.

 

[SniperRed3]

If I'm correct Class A is for Stage 3 to Stage 6. Class B is for Stage 7 and Upwards. Class C is for anything that isn't included in A and B that carries 16 people. Also, if the vehicle is carrying hazardous materials you must have a class C.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

If I'm correct Class A is for Stage 3 to Stage 6. Class B is for Stage 7 and Upwards. Class C is for anything that isn't included in A and B that carries 16 people. Also, if the vehicle is carrying hazardous materials you must have a class C.

Are you talking for the U.S. or else where. If for the U.S you'd be wrong, the Federal guidlines state that there is a class A-C CDL system. Class B isn't 7 and upwards that's not how it works, it's...

Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 lbs. or more, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 lbs. GVWR.

Now most vehicles of class 7 fall into this range and there are certain class 6 vehicles on the upper level that would fall into Class A or B due to the fact they are towing something and thus going over the limit.

Here is Class A:

Any combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GWVR) of 26,001 lbs. or more, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 lbs.

And Class C is the only one that you seem to have correct, and usually the one that is associated with guys carrying Alcohol, Ethanol, various Waste, Gasoline, other Chemicals.

 

[SniperRed3]

I'm talking about if your not towing anything at all. This makes it simpler to understand.

 

[IforceV8]

2016 F-series SD.Lightweight aluminum makes for easy cleanup,just bring a dustpan. http://www.leftlanenews.com/2016-ford-super-duty-burns-to-the-ground-during-testing.html

 

[Bopop4]

Because that's the rating for Light Duty trucks as well as Medium and Heavy Duty and their Gross weight classification to be rated as Light, Medium or Heavy. A Silverado HD isn't really "heavy duty" like say a 7500 series. Why Ford does one less zero I have no idea at all, just thought it was the way they wanted to do things.

So does the 1500 stand for for some sort of weight?

 

[Wolfe]

Don't see how any civilian, short of a heavy construction contractor, would need something like that!

Some younger guy around here drives what might be an International XT, painted Tonka yellow, on a lift kit. It's almost cube-like in dimensions, which makes it by far the most ludicrous truck I've ever seen. No idea what it's actually used for, but he drives it to Walmart and seems to commute with it.

 

[SniperRed3]

So does the 1500 stand for for some sort of weight?

Yes, I believe it is carry weight as in half a ton, however, it's nowadays used as a sort of model number.
You get half tons - 1500, 3/4 tons 2500 and 1 ton 3500.

Some younger guy around here drives what might be an International XT, painted Tonka yellow, on a lift kit. It's almost cube-like in dimensions, which makes it by far the most ludicrous truck I've ever seen. No idea what it's actually used for, but he drives it to Walmart and seems to commute with it.

I had one as a child

 

[Slash]

Yes, I believe it is carry weight as in half a ton, however, it's nowadays used as a sort of model number.
You get half tons - 1500, 3/4 tons 2500 and 1 ton 3500.

Maybe back in the 50s, new trucks are much more capable than that now.

 

[buickgnx88]

Just an easy way to distinguish the different levels. Back in the day, GM had 10/15, 20/25, 30/35 for their trucks and Ford had the F-100 before the F-150. In the 80's, Chevy stuck with 10/20/30 while GMC moved to the 1500/2500/3500 designations. It wasn't until the late 80's when Chevy changed over as well. Dodge trucks were the D-series (100, 200, 300) up until the Ram was redesigned in 1994 when the same format as GM was adopted.

 

[ildd]

Not sure what it means but i'll chime in (I have no idea what truck payloads are cause they all change every year...)
My dad's 2011 Silverado (Crew Cab 1500) easily hauled 2200lbs of stone in the bed a few months ago. Granted, it was a rather short drive back, but no problems...

 

[Slash]

Just an easy way to distinguish the different levels. Back in the day, GM had 10/15, 20/25, 30/35 for their trucks and Ford had the F-100 before the F-150. In the 80's, Chevy stuck with 10/20/30 while GMC moved to the 1500/2500/3500 designations. It wasn't until the late 80's when Chevy changed over as well. Dodge trucks were the D-series (100, 200, 300) up until the Ram was redesigned in 1994 when the same format as GM was adopted.

Dodge had the D/W series and Chevy the C/K as well as the 10/20/30. W/K was designations for 4WD. Ford sold the F-100 and F-150 alongside each other for years until it was dropped in '82.

Not sure what it means but i'll chime in (I have no idea what truck payloads are cause they all change every year...)
My dad's 2011 Silverado (Crew Cab 1500) easily hauled 2200lbs of stone in the bed a few months ago. Granted, it was a rather short drive back, but no problems...

Ours held roughly 4,000 lbs of stone give or take in my dad's 80's 3/4 ton Ford bed on broken springs and it didn't have an issue. And that's only a light duty F-250 with a payload rating of roughly half of what a modern 1500 has.

For anyone that thinks I'm BSing...it was a pallet of landscaping rock which weigh anywhere from 1.5-2.5 tons.