Formual GT World Championship Seasonal

Coming first at Grand Valley and R246 gave me the confidence to take on the FGT Championship in A-Spec. Said confidence was decimated instantly as I discovered the AI is nowhere near as competitive in the seasonal as it is A-Spec.

Seasonal's good training for the car and the A-Spec event though!

If you can nail R246, u should be pretty consistent with FGT. Set downforce to full for most of the aspec races, go on race soft, on SRF and the A Spec championship should be in the bag. Of course, if real simulation is your thing, SRF can be off (and RH) but throttle control means one major mistake and you're gone. Got it on first full attempt with aids on. The main difficulty in the championship is Monaco but you don't have to gold it to win the championship.

For seasonal, the difficulty is lot more uneven. Grand valley, High speed ring can be won with a lot of time to spare (even with spins and wall collision). R246 is fun but fairly tight race. Eifel is doable as long as the FGT don't fly (gotta remember where it does). The ring needs really precise control. A bit of curb or grass is all it takes to spin. Still lack the consistency to gold the ring after 3 tries. :ouch:
 
Getting first on R246 was rather... violent :P I use a controller and run with ABS on 1 and TCS on 1, everything else is off, found R246 to be a sweater of a race, opposition capitalising on lost distance if I was slow on a sector etc. Nurburgring just seems like hell on earth to gold with the FGT though.

Out of curiosity can I get gold on all races (not in championship) on the A-Spec event and get the gold overall trophy for it, because that's the last series I need to do before I have gold on all events in Extreme :(
 
Getting first on R246 was rather... violent :P I use a controller and run with ABS on 1 and TCS on 1, everything else is off, found R246 to be a sweater of a race, opposition capitalising on lost distance if I was slow on a sector etc. Nurburgring just seems like hell on earth to gold with the FGT though.

Out of curiosity can I get gold on all races (not in championship) on the A-Spec event and get the gold overall trophy for it, because that's the last series I need to do before I have gold on all events in Extreme :(

No. Gotta get overall gold in championship to count. Doing individual races only familiarise you with the track and handling. A simple mistake can ruin the entire championship which takes 2.5-3hrs to complete, consider some aids like SRF and race soft (if u r not a purist) to reduce chance of needing to repeat. Did all in one sitting and arm, leg and leg cries foul fighting the wheel. You can afford not to gold in 2 races out of 6 and still get the overall win. Spec 2.0 handles slightly differently on G27 so things may be different now. Just completed Ferrari seasonal on F2007 and it's great fun as well.
 
Don't like this event very hard for me with ds3 (1 mistake and you're last, if less than 3 laps remaining might as well hit restart), I can't be bothered pulling out the dfgt for 1 seasonal. Please have a roadcar seasonal next time PD. Nearly threw the controller at the nurburgring, hit the ripple strips and your gone.

i agree... NS24h with pad is not so easy...will give it some further tries today...
but maybe I'll finally buy me a wheel for x-mas... :-)
 
i agree... NS24h with pad is not so easy...will give it some further tries today...
but maybe I'll finally buy me a wheel for x-mas... :-)

Good move, you won't be sorry. 👍
 
Finally, gold on Nürburgring24 by 2,5s... What a trill! I love this game :-)
 
Gold on Nurb24h by 1.3s here. Not so much a thrill but a shortcut to a heart attack. Pretty pleased with my 7:00.025 laptime considering how poor I was driving beforehand :p

Managed to win the FGT World Champ'ship as well once I got a feel for the car, well chuffed with that! Going through R246 now, which I had gotten confused for the HSR, don't ask, I was tired :p Putting down some consistent 1:14's, happy chappy me!
 
Last night did Nur 24H, hated it so much I cheated by using RS tyres and turning all assists on. The car is so nervous it sucks all the fun out of the track (I love Nordschleife and would lap it just for the hell of it).

Just did R246 and won by over 11s, RH TCS5 ABS1 and the rest off. Took lead during the 5th lap.
 
You can tune the nervousness out of the car man. Its sounds like suspension and LSD settings. I love the FGT on nurburg24hr.
 
Yes, I just did it again after softening the suspension. Still no walk in the park, especially with dying potentiometers in my DFP.
 
Definitely one of the more exciting race I've had. Ran on default settings using a DFPro wheel.

The FGT feels tail heavy, and will swing that fat-end out if you brake heavy with the wheel turned more than a certain angle. So straighten out that steering wheel first before you brake hard.

This happened to Bob when I "inappropriately touched" him...



I was lucky to escape unscathed while red Bob crash and burn. Sorry mate... :)
 
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Last night did Nur 24H, hated it so much I cheated by using RS tyres and turning all assists on. The car is so nervous it sucks all the fun out of the track


But that's where the fun IS. :sly:
 
I countered the tail happiness mostly by sticking a ballast of 50kg all the way to the front of the car. 50/50 weight distro then! It's just a choice of the extra dollop of speed or a nice calm car (for the most part).
 
NS24hr drained my energy. I lost my concentraition 3 times during the race. TR246 Reverse however was quite fun.
 
So far I've beat the first two races, Nurb is next on the list... I'll try the 50kg ballast for sure, otherwise I can already see the anger and swearing the FGT's tail happiness is going to cause me.
 
Be generous with your spring rates and ride heights too, we all know how much of a bumpy son-of-a the Ring can be. ;)
 
I found these incredibly difficult, my car was all over the place.

Then I realised I'd done 23k miles without any rebuilds >.<
 
With my DS3, I managed to do HSR (which was rather easy) and GVS on RH tyres, TCS at 0 and ABS 1, but had to use RS tyres and a tune I picked up on these forums some time ago for R246 and Eifel. It was a settings tune only though, no additional power. Might try them with the first set up next.

As for the 'ring, i'm nowhere, even with the tuned car. Best i've managed is 9th, I rarely spin but just run on the grass too much and it kills your chances. It's also hard sometimes to get back in a straight line as it seems the tyres are greasy and you end up on the grass on the other side - realistic though.

I'm at least getting the benefit of the downforce from maintaining my speed as I don't have the horrific oversteer you get at very low speeds (got that a lot in the latest time trial), but i'm still too cautious, i'll put the hammer down for a section then ease off, feeling lucky to still be on the track :)

EDIT: Just realised from the OP that Eifel is weather change, not only did I not notice that (I guess i was lucky, it's stayed dry for me) but I didn't know there was weather change on *any* of the "course maker" tracks. Cool.
 
Took me a few tries, but I'm doing the 2-lap seasonal of the NS24h and winning it pretty handily now that I got the FGT calmed down a bit - max ride height, softest springs & dampers. It also gave me the confidence to attack the FGT races in A-spec; haven't done the full championship yet, but have golded all the races now. Took Suzuka in heavy rain by lapping the entire field. Car was an unruly, unhappy beast in the wet, even on full rain tires!

Now I've got to do the full championship. As it happens, I'm off work this Friday! :D
 
Using not the DS3 but the Sixaxis. Golded all of them with RS(I know it's cheap, but I don't even have vibration on my controller) except NR24H, that's insanity as far as I know it. I can't drive that fast that consistently. Other than that, the Tune is almost bone stock, with slight LSD settings and the Brakes set on 4-1.

Tokyo was the most fun though, nailing the first corner is key as is the final corner before the long straight. It's not that the AI is tough, rather that it's easy to lose your limit on a Sixaxis. Although I have nailed it, just tap the throttle like a gun's trigger on the corners, blipping it usually ensures control, or coast in.

Smoothness is hard as hell on the FGT with that controller though.
 
I can't remember the last time I was really challenged by the AI in this game, be Spec 2.0 or else. But this time PD nailed it ... on Nurburgring.
But first things first. Here is how I played this SE:
My FGT is pretty beaten. I bought it long before there was SE at all, so with an oil change it was only like 890PP and it lacks horsepower. But since you can easily beat the Ai even with 20 BHP I think it was ok. I mounted the recommended RH tires and gave the Event a go.
First "went" to the High Speed Ring, 10 laps - this was veeeeery easy. Not even worth mentioning it, although I was surprised by the grip the car had.
Grand Valley, 10 laps was next - I like this track a lot, but again ... easy.
Then I went to the last event - Eifel weather change, 10 laps. Dry race, and even if the track had some good corners ... well ... meh ... easy and dumb track.
Then came Tokyo, 10 laps. Well that was a bit of a challenge due to the urban character of the track. In fact, because of my lack of power, the AI was faster then me on the straights. But on the corners ... WOW! Is the AI actually became dumber?! :ouch: The AI is WAY SLOWER in corners! I mean I don't use assists apart from ABS 1, because I use DS3 pad to play. And still I managed some corners flatout, while the AI just cruised on the racing line, so I had to get way around them to pass them. Really dumb! Anyway. After 3 or 4 attempts I managed to gold it.
And then came ... Nurburgring 24hr, 2 laps. Oh, boy! That was tough! After 2 or 3 attempts I understood that I had adjust the suspension stiffness ... SEVERELY! because once I got to the older sections of the Ring it was uneven battle with the bumps. Like 10 attempts later I was still struggling to get a clean lap even though I was consistently 6th or 7th once I exit the F1 section of the track. The AI is still dumb as hell, I had to just get around them because the AI again cruised on the racing line. Then I adjusted once more the settings (suspension mainly and a bit of the rear wing in order for more oversteer because the RH tirea are pretty grippy imo) and this got me just a few seconds after the leader on the LONG straight. Then I spun again.
After like 5 or 6 more attempts I finally managed a clean, comfortable first lap and after I took the lead I managed to gold the event ... which leads me to the conclusion I suck at the Ring maybe? :sly::dopey:
Still great SE, great fun! Thanks a lot PD!
 
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As promised, here are the two settings for my two FGT's. First is the high speed one.
These settings are copied from the new Settings Sheet found in the tuning page for each car.

Max Power: 936hp
Weight: 550kg
PP: 883

Suspension
Ride height: F=6, R=8
Spring Rate: F=19.6, R=20.0
Dampers E: F=4, R=4
Dampers C: F=3, R=3
Anti-roll bars: F=4, R=4
Camber: F=1.0, R=1.4
Toe Angle: F=-.10, R=+.10

LSD
IT: 15
AS: 50
BS: 30

Aerodynamics
Downforce: F=40, R=55

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: F=4, R=6

Weight Adjustment
Ballast amount: 0
Ballast position: 0

Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.00%

Transmission
1st Gear: 6.607
2nd Gear: 4.113
3rd Gear: 2.990
4th Gear: 2.121
5th Gear: 1.626
6th Gear: 1.299
7th Gear: 1.175
Final Gear: 4.164
Top Speed: 292mph(470km/hr)

Tires are Race Medium

All driving aids off. Manual transmission.

Car 2, setup for Road Courses.

Max Power: 936hp
Weight: 550kg
PP: 904

Suspension
Ride Height: F=6, R=8
Spring Rate: F=18.8, R=19.0
Dampers E: F=8, R=8
Dampers C: F=8, R=8
Anti-Roll Bars: F=7, R=6
Camber Angle: F=3.0, R=1.6
Toe Angle: F=-0.20, R=+0.20

LSD
IT: 15
AS: 50
BS: 25

Aerodynamics
Downforce: F=70, R=90

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: F=5, R=6

Weight Adjustment
Ballast amount: 0
Ballast position: 0

Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.00%

Transmission
1st Gear: 5.528
2nd Gear: 3.726
3rd Gear: 2.716
4th Gear: 2.063
5th Gear: 1.634
6th Gear: 1.366
7th Gear: 1.210
Final Gear: 4.321
Top Speed: 255mph(410kph)

Racing Soft Tires.

Driving Options
Transmission: Auto or Manual(I use auto so I don't have to bother with shifting all the time)
Driving Line: Off
Traction Control: Off(use only if absolutely necessary, it will slow you down)
Skid Recovery Force: Off(may use as needed, I don't)
Active Steering: Off
ASM: Off
ABS: 3
Controller Steering Sensitivity: 0

As I mentioned in my previous post these two cars have what it takes to take on pretty much every track in the game apart from dirt and ice, but the better driver you are the more you can get out of them. The settings do work though.

Used a very similar setup for Nurburgring (2nd setup). Car feels a bit understeery at first, took a while to get used to it. Particularly on exit to the apex. However changing the brakes to 4/1 and top speed to 225mph, soft tyres ensured that I got the 1st place after a number of times trying. Best way to approach this is to drive the current F1 section flat out, a lot of time can be made up here. Pace yourself on the Nurburgring 24 hour track sections. Try not to get to aggressive and build up rhythm. Slow entry and fast exit, the car understeers a lot, particularly on some of the up hill bends on the last section. It is very easy to go off here by making a small mistake.
 
I had a few goes on R246 without much success - at some point each race I would spin out and go backwards real quick. If I managed to get 10 clean laps I am sure I would have been fine.

Instead I took the easy way out and put on all the aids and blitzed it - that car is so much easier with the aids on (well, for me anyway, using DS3). I was consistently 3-4 seconds per lap quicker than without the aids.

Now to try the 'Ring with the aids to se if that helps, then I might go back to 246 and decrease the aids to see if I can do it a little more legit!
 
Just won the Eifel race by one-tenth of a second! :D I spun out on the 8th lap, which put me back to 5th place. Closing in on the 1st driver in the last corner of the last lap was one of the most heart-pounding and most satisfying moments I ever had in GT5. 👍

All aids off except for ABS 1 and TCS 2.
 
Whoever thought of putting Formula GT cars on the Nurburgring should be shot through the head... several times. Not even Sabine Schmidt would dare run a FGT car around the ring. It's just completely the wrong track for this car... I mean, banked chicanes, bumps the size of water buffalo... ugh. What a joke. Don't they know that for a Formula One car, you need speed to create the needed downforce? Aside from the long straight, you just can't get the speed.

Maybe I'll have more patience when I hook up my wheel. Maybe not. I'll just put this down as another race I can't be bothered to complete.
 
Oh, does anyone have the XP amounts for this seasonal? I only got the first two :D lol
 
Does nobody have the XP amount for the FGT seasonal, Nurburgring?
I have all the others.
 
On Nurburg 24H, it may be a bit counter-intuitive, but it is easier to drive (and still possible to win) by decreasing your power. Here is an interesting challenge:

I have a wheel, so it is easier to handle the FGT, and on normal tune with racing hards, I can grab the leading at the end of the first lap, but going all out means it is easy to spin out if you put a wheel off the fairly narrow track.

Trying for a challenge, I kept decreasing the power and eventually I found that I could still manage to win (barely) by going all the way down to 50%, with racing hard, downforce fairly high, 1 TC, 1 ABS, all other aids off. At this point, you're down to 450 bhp (versus 800+ on 100% engine power), and about 810 pp, which means on the straight you'll just be able to hit 300 kph (versus around 340 kph for the AI and 370 kph on your own normally tuned FGT).

How do you win with such low power? Cornering! With such low power and high downforce, you can pretty much go full throttle through all fast corners. Basically you brake late, turn in, and full throttle all the way until the next corner. Even with such low top speed, the AI cars seem to only be able to pass you on the final long straight. You actually NEED this fact to win in this situation. What I did is to keep my max speed at 340 kph (even though I can only get to 300 by myself), and on the final straight, let one of the AI cars pass you, and duck into his draft, which quickly gets you to 340 kph along the entire straight. Otherwise you'll not be able to win.

For myself, this was a fun challenge, as with the above drafting technique, I can just hit the 7 minute lap and instead of taking the lead early, I just about barely win right at the end of the 2nd lap. PLUS, I make fewer mistakes since the car has such low power that I can just full throttle all the way across the track. On full tune, the FGT is so fast that it's pretty easy to spin out, even with my wheel and hours of grinding experience on the nurburg, but on this super low power setting I can get through 2 whole laps without a single off track excursion!

BTW, I'm almost entirely incapable of using the cockpit view, because all the shaking around gets me disoriented, and quickly spin out, but I tried it with the open cars (FGT, Ferrari F1), and it's not so bad with the open cockpit! I even found it a bit easier to pass on the narrow Nurburgring in cockpit view, because I can line up the wheel along the opponent car. I've always been a bit disappointed at having to drive hood view all the time, but it is so cool using the cockpit view in the formula cars!
 
Did you happen to write down how much XP you got, tren001?
I still haven't been able to complete this one, even with racing soft, SRF, etc. It's not that I can't catch/pass the cars, it's that I can't keep it on the track.
 
Just finished it again. It gives 40400 exp, so with the %200 bonus, you can get up to 80800 exp for your 14 minutes of exhilarating driving!
 
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