Formula 1 MSC Cruises Grande Prêmio de São Paulo 2025

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Very difficult to say Oscar ISN'T in the wrong here. He dove in ambitiously and didn't make it out of the corner without hitting one car and causing a 2nd car to DNF.
 
Veinz
Yeah, I don't agree with that penalty at all.
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If not for the contact on Kimi, then DEFINITELY for causing Charles Leclerc to have to retire. Unless you are saying that his damage had nothing to do with Piastri?
 
Lawson helping Piastri by being so far off Russell. Negates pretty much the whole penalty, might only drop a couple of places.
 
Blitz24
If not for the contact on Kimi, then DEFINITELY for causing Charles Leclerc to have to retire. Unless you are saying that his damage had nothing to do with Piastri
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I see it as a racing incident, he was right up alongside for a few hundred feet before the corner so I don't see why that move wasn't on. He only locked up because Antonelli was turning in as if he wasn't there. Leclerc was jsut unlucky, that's the risk you take when you go 3 wide from the outside.
 
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Interesting strategy for Verstappen by pitting him under SC, but surely there's no way he makes those mediums last to the end?
 
-Fred-
Interesting strategy for Verstappen by pitting him under SC, but surely there's no way he makes those mediums last to the end?
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He will pit once more probably. The rub is that the rest of the field MIGHT need to pit twice.
 
Veinz
Yeah, I don't agree with that penalty at all.
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Oscar locked up. With the way previous penalties have been applied (Russell in Spain etc), something that denotes a car as "out of control" usually ends up with them getting the penalty.


Also cars in the middle of a three-wide are almost never punished for the collisions as they can't move either way.
 
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Start P19 from the pitlane
Get a puncture
Be ahead of pole position, on the same number of stops, before the halfway point

Max is inevitable

Edit: Not that he's keeping it up, but still
 
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Yeah but he pitted under safety car which saved him some time compared to pitting when it's green.
 
You can only beat Verstappen if his car is bad and even than it’s not guaranteed.
 
Fezzik
Brundle idiotically saying it could be more. The Lando bias in full show.
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British commentator commentating on a British broadcast for a British audience says something that supports the British driver's title bid? Colour me shocked!!!!!

As Sky are no longer the "official" F1 broadcast as that has been taken over by F1TV they have no need to not want to prioritise the driver most supported by the nation they are broadcasting to.
 
Jimlaad43
Oscar locked up. With the way previous penalties have been applied (Russell in Spain etc), something that denotes a car as "out of control" usually ends up with them getting the penalty.
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But he didn't lock up because he braked 50m late or anything, he only locked up to prevent taking damage from the other guy misjudging it. He was fully along side at the 100m board, that move was totally on. I still don't agree with the penalty, racing incident at best.
 
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Not sure if it’s the right call to leave Piastri out for so long.
 
Max will be on mediums until the end

Everyone ahead will likely still have to stop
 
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Veinz
But he didn't lock up because he braked 50m late or anything, he only locked up to prevent taking damage from the other guy misjudging it. He was fully along side at the 100m board, still don't agree with the penalty. Racing incident at best.
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100m board is irrelevant with the current rules. He was behind at the apex where it matters now, he wasn’t in control, he caused a collision.

I’m an Oscar fan but that was a penalty every day of the week.
 
1 stopper perhaps now for Oscar, if he can tyre whisper the softs
 
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Veinz
But he didn't lock up because he braked 50m late or anything, he only locked up to prevent taking damage from the other guy misjudging it. He was fully along side at the 100m board, that move was totally on. I still don't agree with the penalty, racing incident at best.
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We are arguing about proper racing rules and F1 racing guidelines which like to get things wrong. Either way, Antonelli was in the middle of a three wide so couldn't go right, was "ahead at the apex" and DID leave a car's width all the time. As per the guidelines, he is therefore entitled to do what he likes.
 
Jimlaad43
We are arguing about proper racing rules and F1 racing guidelines which like to get things wrong. Either way, Antonelli was in the middle of a three wide so couldn't go right, was "ahead at the apex" and DID leave a car's width all the time. As per the guidelines, he is therefore entitled to do what he likes.
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Then maybe he should have braked 50m later and just bashed Kimi off track to be ahead at the apex.
 
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