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Anyway, congrats to McLaren for winning the constructors

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Just a pity you had the podium celebration whilst one of your drivers was still doing media duties. Guess which one.
 
Mae Borowski
Crazy how much this season has eroded the loyalty I had towards McLaren. Like on one hand yeah, swapping positions after the lap 1 scuffle and a slow stop is daft. But also, under McLaren's own rules its fair. Why does fair seem to only apply when Lando's luck runs out?
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Edit: actually I was being unnecessarily rude. Apologies.
 
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Fezzik
Anyway, congrats to McLaren for winning the constructors

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Just a pity you had the podium celebration whilst one of your drivers was still doing media duties. Guess which one.
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In fairness, Oscar apparently did celebrate with the team after this, but it's sounding like the team was asked pretty quickly to get everyone on the podium, at least according to some folks on reddit.

Now, the correct thing to do would be either to A) wait for Oscar to finish his media duties, or B) have someone from the team grab him, and bring him back to the media pen afterwards. As much as the FIA has its head up its own ass about a lot of stuff, I highly doubt they would've made a big deal about Oscar bailing from the media pen to celebrate his team winning the WCC. Either way, it's still an incredibly bad look on McLaren's part.

In any case, I was always kinda rooting for Oscar to win this year's WDC, as it's pretty unusual to have a driver challenge for a title so early in his career against his more experienced teammate, but after today and Monza, I'm fully on the Oscar train. I've got nothing against Lando himself, but it's very much getting to a point where McLaren itself seems to be falling over themselves to assist him to Oscars detriment, while also regularly repeating the same mistakes for almost half of the season. Oscar winning the title despite everything would be nothing short of legendary, and he definitely needs to be more ruthless from this point forward for that to happen.

More than anything, this team is really lucky they have 2 fast drivers and such a damn good car.
 
Fezzik
At times like this I really wish I'd gone pirate and used the F1 TV coverage. Sky F1 are so British-biased it's laughable.
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Coverage of a series for British TV with British commentators catering for a British audience which then has a British driver in championship contention has a British bias?
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A lot of these complaints of British Bias in the sport are so badly out of place because it's all being consumed from British media. One source will of course be biased
 
Famine
That whole "Oscar's such a cool customer" thing is fading quick, huh? He's currently losing 3pt from his entire-race's-worth lead due to an equivocal incident and raging about it being unfair.

On the flip side, "we gave Lando a bad pit stop so please let him past" is, was, and always will be stupid and was bound to cause something like this at some point down the line.
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To me this issue is entirely because of McLaren's pretty specious rules of engagement.

Another example is thar Oscar was reprimanded by the team in Austria for having a small lockup and almost... but not... making contact with Lando while attempting an overtake on his championship rival. Subtext being, no more risky overtake attempts allowed.

In this case Lando clumsily runs into him and Max at the start to complete an overtake at a track that has little/no overtaking... and no further action.
 
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Fezzik
No different at all. They just asked Lando about the exact Monza scenario.
Lando wasn't willing to give up priority, pits now.
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I can't remember other times the second car on track pitted first (Japan, Bahrain, Monaco, Spain) if the lead driver was given the question and option to veto.

Monza was particularly interesting as Lando offered it - he seemed very safe in his position, but he seemed to manifest the universe's displeasure when he put in the "as long as there's not undercut" comment. He should have just either pitted first or let them pit... once he put that quip out there it was like the commentators curse.

Now in Singapore he came across like the spoilt child by not allowing the team to take the most logical action. I think it was wrong of the team in this situation to ask, and his answer was also wrong. I was a little surprised the universe didn't have a safety car the next lap and a cheap stop for Oscar to get ahead, but I guess it is lucky Lando most of the time.

Sure same as Monza could have happened, but he would have just been given the position back if he had been undercut so I don't understand why he felt the need to pit first.
 
Jimlaad43
Coverage of a series for British TV with British commentators catering for a British audience which then has a British driver in championship contention has a British bias?
Colour me shocked...
A lot of these complaints of British Bias in the sport are so badly out of place because it's all being consumed from British media. One source will of course be biased
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Indeed. Look at how the Spanish treat Alonso, or how the Italians treat Ferrari.

That said, Sky has always been a load of sensationalist BS anyway.
 
Fezzik
Just a pity you had the podium celebration whilst one of your drivers was still doing media duties. Guess which one.
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They found him in the end :lol:

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I don't think anyone thinks it was really deliberate. Just bad optics and unfortunate timing that the team really should've been ready for - starting where the drivers did, it was always a strong possibility that one or both would miss the podium and have to do the mandatory media duties straight away.

Anyway, off to Austin and the next instalment of the Papaya Saga. Hopefully Verstappen has another strong weekend and messes up all the plans.
 
I think Oscar should listen to some Slipknot now.

"**** this ****, I'm sick of it, you're going down - this is a WAR!"
 
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GlamFM
Lando already struggling with dirty air. Can’t wait for this reg to be over.
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Quite funny gives current reg was largely designed with the ground effects to reduce the impact of dirty air...

Do you think they can actually deliver regulations that achieve their goals and improve the competition?

I mean recent major reg changes have been clankers. 2009 was a championship of a loophole, the following years were an odd mix of domination and competitiveness... 2014 was a disappointment after so much optimism, and the development limitations for "cost control" just ended up locking in domination... 2022 was an absolute shocker, the porpoising was a clown show and then one team got a handle, 2023 is potentially the least interesting most who cares season in the last 30 or 40 years.

I'm hopeful that they might get it better this time, really I am... they can't be worse than last time.
 

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