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Oh hell yes it does. I hope the fix the issue, as it's quite a good little racer off road until it slams into the ground.
Oh hell yes it does. I hope the fix the issue, as it's quite a good little racer off road until it slams into the ground.
Reducing cars like this would mean that all BMWs on the CLAR platform, all VW, Audi and non sportcar Porsches are MLB platform cars, all Mercs are MRA based and so on, are all the same cars within their companies.
You're right; that was a logical fallacy on my part, I take it back. I've honestly just been disappointed in this update since the stream, lol.
Heck, I was expecting less from this update from Horizon Retrowave anyway--MC20 and a Stellantis-oriented update, or Revuelto and PHEV and EVs at most after the Ioniq 5 was revealed--and I'm still slightly disappointed.
At least this week is the Dark Horse, had it been later on in the month and we got the Ioniq as our first week car I'd be very miffed.
That MC20 is in purgatory for some reason. Both Forza games have had leaks (FM even had an official banner posted online showing it for December 2023 I think).Heck, I was expecting less from this update from Horizon Retrowave anyway--MC20 and a Stellantis-oriented update, or Revuelto and PHEV and EVs at most after the Ioniq 5 was revealed--and I'm still slightly disappointed.
I've hit 278mph with KITT fully upgraded and going flat out on the motorway. 300 mph isn't possible I don't think without building something in Eventlab and playing around.
I'm quite sure that KITT's standard top speed was 300mph, and Super Pursuit mode added in Knight of the Juggernaut pushed that by 40% (although we never saw it do so)... so 420mph.
I wonder if it's something like "we don't want to see our cars racing with traffic on the road." Motorfest does let you use the MC20 in the open world, with traffic, but from what I've seen so far, once you get in a race, traffic's cleared out, you don't ever see a single civvie. Thus, no chance of you ever getting in any simulated danger with a civilian when you're racing.
To add to the licensing weirdness, Maserati lost these models in the bridge from FH4 to FH5
True, because that notion of 'we don't want to see cars racing in the middle of traffic' then begs the question, why don't we see the missing Maseratis in FM2023, where there is no chance of that happening? Or, for that matter, why didn't Maserati just skip this game entirely like the other Stellantis Italian brands did for the first year, justifying it with not wanting to be associated with illegal street racing?
It is very strange how the licensing (or whatever the reason actually is) has worked between both games. The MC12 missed out on FH5, but it's remained in the Motorsport series. But, FH5 was able to keep the Corsa version in. One might assume T10 would consider bringing the Corsa to FM2023 since its modeled & would be right at home, but it's a car they've never pursued.
I'm just saying that as the Mustang GTD, even if it's likely far from being featured in the game anytime soon, would likely end up in the categories I mentioned. It's too fast for Modern Muscle, so if it were added some time in FH5, or potentially FH6, it would likely end up in either Hypercars or Extreme Track Toys.
I think there is a clear difference between licensing a road car and licensing a racecar. Take the Apex Allstars pack and the Sierra Sierra in that Playlist for example, but especially the car pack. The Playlist obviously has the Hyundai Elantra TCR in there, so that's plausibly a buy-in slot, but the Apex Allstars pack, feels like you're most likely to get to talking with the IMSA and SCCA, moreso than the manufacturer themselves.
I can see that, but my curiosity extends beyond that as well such as with the MC12 & the Corsa. Or for example, the 512 S initially. FH4 introduced it, though for whatever reason, it took about 2 years for FH5 to bring it back during Series 28 according to the Forza Wiki. The DBR1 followed the same path; was there in FH4, was in FM2023 at launch, and returned to Horizon alongside the Ferrari a couple months later during the same series last Christmas. Another obscure one from that series was the Porsche 906. It didn't make the transition from FM7 to FM2023, but it did return to FH5 after being in FH4. Then you have some other oddities like the DB4 Zagato, 250LM, 500 Mondial, Commodore, the aforementioned Maseratis, & probably a few more that were in FH4 & FM2023, but have yet to come back to FH5. There's also a handful of cars that have re-debuted into Forza through FM2023 that haven't been back in the Horizon games since FH3.
