Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[UKMikey]

Because it’s the definition in German, if it has more than one axle and normally four wheels or more, it’s a „wagen“. This is from even before the car, like carriages and stuff, and this is also a „Wagen“😉:
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OK. How about "ein Auto"?

 

[sirjim73]

OK. How about "ein Auto"?

Why isn't the Autobahn called the "Wagenbahn" 🤔
Anyway, back on topic... We haven't mentioned biscuits in a while

Have picked up this week's wagon/estate/large thing on 4 wheels.
Also, I like the weeks backstage choice, as there are 2 cars on left I don't have and one on the right, so I'm guaranteed to get something next week

 

[UKMikey]

Why isn't the Autobahn called the "Wagenbahn" 🤔

Why do Volkswagen make saloon cars?

Anyway, back on topic... We haven't mentioned biscuits in a while

Americans call Wagon Wheels moon pies which is probably even more strange to us.

 

[Populuxe]

I’m not really a fan of the Hide and Seek game mode. I only play it when it’s required for the Weekly Playlist. Today was the first time I played as the Hider, and that’s when I got it. Playing as a Seeker is dull, but playing as a Hider is fun. I won my round, and got a couple of achievements for my efforts.

 

[VinylRichie]

OK. How about "ein Auto"?

Both counts, Wagen is just a even broader definition that counts for more kinds of vehicles.
I think it just got carried over from the time when carriages were still the main way of transportation and cars at the beginning were just motorized carriages. A lot of other, more specific terms from the time of carriages are still being used today, like „break“ (also for station wagon), Landaulet, Phaeton, Coupé etc..
But maybe it’s just a thing of language and what we are used to, it sounds just normal to us and fits the object we want to describe with it.
Not directly comparable but the same principle, in English there’s just the term „You“ that gets used for people you are familiar, friends, family, but also people you don’t know, who are older, above you in the hierarchy, who have a more respected standing in society etc.. In German you would never do that, that’s what we have the term „Sie“ for when it comes to the latter, It would be weird in most cases and sound wrong, but in English it sounds just normal and makes sense (for me too), even when the term means exactly the same when translated. I hope it makes sense😅 I think it’s very similar

 

[UKMikey]

Both counts, Wagen is just a even broader definition that counts for more kinds of vehicles.
I think it just got carried over from the time when carriages were still the main way of transportation and cars at the beginning were just motorized carriages. A lot of other, more specific terms from the time of carriages are still being used today, like „break“ (also for station wagon), Landaulet, Phaeton, Coupé etc..
But maybe it’s just a thing of language and what we are used to, it sounds just normal to us and fits the object we want to describe with it.

Yeah, I know. Wagen are just vehicles. VW also made amphibious Schwimmwagen but that didn't make them estate cars.

 

[Digolgrin]

I’m not really a fan of the Hide and Seek game mode. I only play it when it’s required for the Weekly Playlist. Today was the first time I played as the Hider, and that’s when I got it. Playing as a Seeker is dull, but playing as a Hider is fun. I won my round, and got a couple of achievements for my efforts.
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I've said this before but I really do think it's down to focusing on the "experience" rather than doing anything that could be considered 'unfun'--even if that also creates situations that are 'unfun'. If a Seeker so much as lands a solid ping on the Hider before he gets Chase Breaker'd, the entire team knows exactly where to look for 'em, which means if they mess up even once they're never shaking the Seekers, which isn't fun, I was just on the other end of that myself.

Granted, I do think this was better considered than The Eliminator, because stealth runs are still viable and incredibly satisfying to pull off. But I only played enough to get the Bronco Raptor and left it at that.

 

[Ande3200]

Started my new playthrough on my pc. Lost my old account i had for Xbox one,
Fh5 is a completly different beast on pc, have everything maxed out on 4k, and it looks absolutly stunning, huge visual upgrade from Xbox one, some cars even looks on par with gt7 models, some models needs fixing through and i hope some of those can be fixed in fh6 hopefully,

But i forget how bad the progression has become they just throw cars at you,
Would have prefer more how the progresion work in fh1 by far the best story and progression in the series, but after not playing it for almost 2 years, it still enjoyed it,

Maybe for the future pg could let us buy cars thats been exclusive playlist cars,
Many great cars gets missed otherwise for people not playing reguarly.

 

[skazz]

Big thumbs up to the guy who built the FM Burnese Alps track in FH5 on this week's playlist

 

[RolexGTP]

You know it's bad in FM when your open world sibling builds a track for you that's not even in your game. Not saying I would want Bernese Alps back because that's at the bottom of my track wishlist totem pole but still. All we need now is for somebody to recreate Fujimi kaido full.

 

[UKMikey]

You know it's bad in FM when your open world sibling builds a track for you that's not even in your game. Not saying I would want Bernese Alps back because that's at the bottom of my track wishlist totem pole but still. All we need now is for somebody to recreate Fujimi kaido full.

The Kaido was a faily large track as I recall. Would the EventLab props budget be able to accomodate a track that size without everything looking bland and featureless? Ditto Rally di Positano/Camino Viejo.

 

[RolexGTP]

Kaido was a faily large track as I recall. Would the EventLab props budget be able to accomodate a track that size without everything looking bland and featureless? Ditto Rally di Positano/Camino Viejo.

It's very well possible though maybe not quite the 10.2 mile version in FM4 but on a smaller scale. Would I tackle a project like that? Nope don't have that much time on my hands lol. But with the detailed and creative tracks some players have come up with, I don't doubt it.

 

[Justuxful]

There’s a rather funny thing now in the game regarding car classifications which have always had quite a few quirks since the very beginning.

The new E55 AMG Wagon is a 2006 car and is in the retro saloons category, but the B7 RS4 of the same year is in the modern saloons one

 

[L8 Apex]

There’s a rather funny thing now in the game regarding car classifications which have always had quite a few quirks since the very beginning.

The new E55 AMG Wagon is a 2006 car and is in the retro saloons category, but the B7 RS4 of the same year is in the modern saloons one

I still can't get over the current-gen SL, a convertible 2+2, being a "Super Saloon."

 

[Justuxful]

I still can't get over the current-gen SL, a convertible 2+2, being a "Super Saloon."

Yeah, that’s one is real bad, and I’d throw in the ID4 being a hot hatch in there too.

I really hope they rework car classes for the next game cause they are a bit of a mess.


One that really grinds my gears is the extreme track toys one, where in a class of mostly non road legal cars you get stuff like the Bugatti Divo and the Ariel Atom thrown in.

Surely they could go in the hypercar and regular track toys categories respectively, leaving the extreme track toys one just for the insane non road legal stuff, but alas…

 

[skazz]

Yeah, the track toys categories were good at first, but adding in racing cars has bloated them too much.

The problem is obvious: You can't make categories which only contain DLC or hard-to-find cars, so the categories still need to be based on the set of cars anyone can buy from the autoshow. This is causing the bloat, but to move some cars out into other categories is tricky.

 

[Digolgrin]

Yeah, the track toys categories were good at first, but adding in racing cars has bloated them too much.

The problem is obvious: You can't make categories which only contain DLC or hard-to-find cars, so the categories still need to be based on the set of cars anyone can buy from the autoshow. This is causing the bloat, but to move some cars out into other categories is tricky.

Even so, that doesn't explain why the ID.4 went into Hot Hatches despite being an SUV. I could see the SL 63 going into either GT Cars or Super Saloons honestly--think the price tag was a big part of why it went for Super Saloons--but the ID.4 (and by extension the Kona) was inexcusable.

 

[RazorSharkz]

My biggest class pet peeve has been all the post-1973 Classic Muscle cars. They have more in common performance wise with the retro muscle class. I may be alone with that though.

 

[skazz]

Even so, that doesn't explain why the ID.4 went into Hot Hatches despite being an SUV. I could see the SL 63 going into either GT Cars or Super Saloons honestly--think the price tag was a big part of why it went for Super Saloons--but the ID.4 (and by extension the Kona) was inexcusable.

The ID.4 calls itself a crossover SUV, and in real life they are really not that big.

By now FH5 does have quite a few crossovers (the ID.4, Cupra, Mini Countryman, Kona, etc..) so breaking them up into a different category would be best, however since they are almost all post-launch additions, we have to suffer with either calling them hatchbacks or SUVs. Neither category really works.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Noticed the M5 CS and Nismo Z both have the bonnet clips and rear bumper upgrades that FM8 cars typically have. Wonder if this either means that they're bound for FM8 or the two studios are just starting to unify their asset pipelines a bit more?

 

[Komrad Syka]

Noticed the M5 CS and Nismo Z both have the bonnet clips and rear bumper upgrades that FM8 cars typically have. Wonder if this either means that they're bound for FM8 or the two studios are just starting to unify their asset pipelines a bit more?

a backport probably

 

[Justuxful]

Noticed the M5 CS and Nismo Z both have the bonnet clips and rear bumper upgrades that FM8 cars typically have. Wonder if this either means that they're bound for FM8 or the two studios are just starting to unify their asset pipelines a bit more?

If I'm remembering correctly, the only other car that had those was the 2020 TT RS that was added after it appeared in FM, so the M5 CS and Nismo Z definitely are planned to appear in FM eventually, or perhaps were planned to show up earlier but got delayed.

 

[RolexGTP]

The M5 CS would make complete sense with next months update being about BMW. And perhaps we get a Nissan update eventually too featuring the Nismo Z

 

[LumpiestFish]

The Terminator Mustang also has the more detailed roll cage that cars in FM have.

 

[ClydeYellow]

It just occured to me that the Germans call every car "ein Wagen". And they invented the bloody things...

Says the one callings automobiles carre...

 

[UKMikey]

Says the one callings automobiles carre...

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Don't look at me, I didn't write the language.

 

[ScottPuss20]

The Mercedes E55 wagon is one of the best additions to the game. I cannot fault it. I thought it would be a big, lumbering mess of a thing with too much power and not enough grip. Playground could've just chosen the sedan version and been done with it, but they went the extra mile to get a hold of the much rarer wagon variant. That's dedication right there.

 

[Nacho Libre]

Forza Horizon 4 was delisted yesterday (December 15). May it live long in my series X storage.

 

[skazz]

Forza Horizon 4 was delisted yesterday (December 15). May it live long in my series X storage.

FH3 is still in my Series X storage, even though it was delisted before I bought the console.
Heck, I was able to FH3 and both expansions to a new PC back in 2022 years after it was delisted. No worries

 

[UKMikey]

I don't have that much space on my Xbox so I wiped Horizon 3 and 4 off my hard drive. However, at present I can redownload them any time from the Xbox store since I own the games.