Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[LumpiestFish]

What better way to do in a Forza tie-in than doing a Thrustmaster ad while playing Gran Turismo. These guys are ****ing idiots and I already hate whatever they're going to bring to the game.

’****ing idiots’ because of an ad? Bit of a overreaction don’t you think?

 

[strela]

But I guess PGG got a nice fat paycheck from them which was the main drive for this collaboration, let's be real.

Seriously. Do you actually believe that DM can give a nice fat paycheck to PGG just to be featured in a Horizon story? Not to mention the fact that despite the fat check they will get just a small part in a game that is already a year old.

Anyway I'm going to miss these new intros so much when the next series start. 😥

 

[Edax 76]

Anyway I'm going to miss these new intros so much when the next series start. 😥

Definitely. I've really enjoyed them all so far. I was playing last night whilst listening to Crowded House Greatest Hits. Reliving FH3 with a great Aussie band, it's Nick Cave tonight.

 

[Komrad Syka]

What better way to do in a Forza tie-in than doing a Thrustmaster ad while playing Gran Turismo. These guys are ****ing idiots and I already hate whatever they're going to bring to the game.

bruh they alr did thrustmaster ad with forza before that vid.... can u just not overhate and try to moving on? tbh i hate top gear collab in fh4 than dm.

 

[strela]

can u just not overhate and try to moving on?

Don't you see what is going on? The T128 in that video is even designed specially for PlayStation console yet they have the audacity to play Gran Turismo with it.

 

[Komrad Syka]

Don't you see what is going on? The T128 in that video is even designed specially for PlayStation console yet they have the audacity to play Gran Turismo with it.

i don't see the problem, t128 also for pc and xbox too

 

[strela]

i don't see the problem, t128 also for pc and xbox too

"The list of compatible games on PlayStation and PC is updated regularly on the Thrustmaster technical support website.". That is from the official site. T128 I thought it's not available for XBox too.

 

[TGR55]

Same. Hated them in Dirt 5, gonna hate them in FH5 too. Plus the resources and time wasted on scanning and modeling a few of their modified cars that are just slightly modified versions of the ones we already have is the biggest reason why I already hate this update.

But I guess PGG got a nice fat paycheck from them which was the main drive for this collaboration, let's be real. Anyway, unless this update also includes some heavyweights like the new Countach and the Sian together with the DM cars, then they can keep it and I will skip it.

I remember them saying that their face got scanned too. I don't think they have budget to pay PGG though. Most likely the opposite.

 

[Komrad Syka]

"The list of compatible games on PlayStation and PC is updated regularly on the Thrustmaster technical support website.". That is from the official site. T128 I thought it's not available for XBox too.

T128 - | Thrustmaster

www.thrustmaster.com

 

[RazorSharkz]

Definitely. I've really enjoyed them all so far. I was playing last night whilst listening to Crowded House Greatest Hits. Reliving FH3 with a great Aussie band, it's Nick Cave tonight.

I always thought Crowded House was from New Zealand, but only their lead vocalist (who was in Split Enz who are all from New Zealand) is.

 

[Edax 76]

The Cheese Wagon is triumphant!!!! My road tune on it is very squirrelly so it was a handful off road, but betting on cheese will never let you down 😂😂

 

[Ak1504]

Don't you see what is going on? The T128 in that video is even designed specially for PlayStation console yet they have the audacity to play Gran Turismo with it.

I do not see why i should care about what advertisement deals they have and stuff ? Could not care less 😅

 

[sirjim73]

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The Cheese Wagon is triumphant!!!! My road tune on it is very squirrelly so it was a handful off road, but betting on cheese will never let you down 😂😂

Only if its Wensleydale Gromit!

 

[-Fred-]

bruh they alr did thrustmaster ad with forza before that vid.... can u just not overhate and try to moving on? tbh i hate top gear collab in fh4 than dm.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. The fact they've done an ad with Forza before doesn't change mine. They're annoying idiots, I don't like their content and I'm not looking forward to them being added to the game.

 

[Komrad Syka]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. The fact they've done an ad with Forza before doesn't change mine. They're annoying idiots, I don't like their content and I'm not looking forward to them being added to the game.

yea they're annoying but i'm enjoying their content just for entertainment. let's see which collab is a let down, fh5 dm or fh4 tg. I don't watch top gear after the trio left company and replaced with bunch of people that i didn't know and one of em are annoying af.

 

[Edax 76]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd never heard of Donut Media until the original leaks of them being in FH5 appeared. I'm going into the next update still having not watched any of their output. This isn't for any particular reason, I've just haven't. Hence I'm going into the next series with an open mind.

Personally I loved the Top Gear DLC in FH4. Yes Jeremy, James and Richard were funny and until the currant line up of Chris, Freddie and Paddy the programme did dip in quality. I'd quite like to a Top Gear addition to the game, maybe road trip themed?

 

[strela]

I do not see why i should care about what advertisement deals they have and stuff ? Could not care less 😅

Same. Don't see any reason why someone should care.

 

[The_Greaser]

That event you mentioned - that was completely awful. Putting a line of GTS and Maloos - which are clearly unfit for dirt racing - for a three-race gauntlet is torturous. I've tried it and it was horrific. First I tried a rally build for the Maloo, and it was awful as it kept slidin' all over the place. Then I made modifications to my Sandman and it did okay (sort of) - but the worse gripe is the dreadful Drivatar AI.

Has there ever been worse AI than this? I have never seen this before in any previous Forza game I have ever played. How can the lead car (or two in my case) just rocket away and have perfect grip, while I am struggling? It's cheating, it's what it is.

I quit on my second race. Which is bad enough since there's a song locked behind it. I'm going to have to sit this one out.

 

[Komrad Syka]

That event you mentioned - that was completely awful. Putting a line of GTS and Maloos - which are clearly unfit for dirt racing - for a three-race gauntlet is torturous. I've tried it and it was horrific. First I tried a rally build for the Maloo, and it was awful as it kept slidin' all over the place. Then I made modifications to my Sandman and it did okay (sort of) - but the worse gripe is the dreadful Drivatar AI.

Has there ever been worse AI than this? I have never seen this before in any previous Forza game I have ever played. How can the lead car (or two in my case) just rocket away and have perfect grip, while I am struggling? It's cheating, it's what it is.

I quit on my second race. Which is bad enough since there's a song locked behind it. I'm going to have to sit this one out.

i use maloo with quantum jak's tune, it's pretty good and gassed the ai

 

[Populuxe]

That event you mentioned - that was completely awful. Putting a line of GTS and Maloos - which are clearly unfit for dirt racing - for a three-race gauntlet is torturous. I've tried it and it was horrific. First I tried a rally build for the Maloo, and it was awful as it kept slidin' all over the place. Then I made modifications to my Sandman and it did okay (sort of) - but the worse gripe is the dreadful Drivatar AI.

Has there ever been worse AI than this? I have never seen this before in any previous Forza game I have ever played. How can the lead car (or two in my case) just rocket away and have perfect grip, while I am struggling? It's cheating, it's what it is.

I quit on my second race. Which is bad enough since there's a song locked behind it. I'm going to have to sit this one out.

Don't give up on that. I used a stock Maloo in the first race and came in 9th. I then gave it a rally build and finished third in the second race and first in the last race. I won the championship by four points. If you have a bad finish in the first race, the AI mixes it up by having cars finish in different orders in the following races to give you a fighting chance to win the championship.

 

[WanganDream]

That event you mentioned - that was completely awful. Putting a line of GTS and Maloos - which are clearly unfit for dirt racing - for a three-race gauntlet is torturous. I've tried it and it was horrific. First I tried a rally build for the Maloo, and it was awful as it kept slidin' all over the place. Then I made modifications to my Sandman and it did okay (sort of) - but the worse gripe is the dreadful Drivatar AI.

Has there ever been worse AI than this? I have never seen this before in any previous Forza game I have ever played. How can the lead car (or two in my case) just rocket away and have perfect grip, while I am struggling? It's cheating, it's what it is.

I quit on my second race. Which is bad enough since there's a song locked behind it. I'm going to have to sit this one out.

I used Holden Monaro.
6.7 V8 diesel turbo, AWD conversion, front and rear Forza spoilers, off road tires and suspension, 10 speed transmission.

These upgrades may not be favored by purist muscle car enthusiasts, but with the right upgrades, vintage muscle cars are one of the best Dirt/CC-friendly categories in the game.

The key to tuning is to install fatter tires on the rear than the front and set the tire pressure around 1.8-1.9. And set the lower ride height.
Tires that are fatter at the rear than at the front prevent oversteer in gravel and always provide adequate traction.
And higher-than-preset air pressure settings provide adequate grip on tarmac, which is further aided by the lower ride height and downforce.

 

[KnightOfRen]

For some reason I'm confident I can do it with a stock Maloo. But part of me is saying this is a horrible idea...

 

[notsofast]

I did it quite easily in a HQ Monaro with BigHeadDjango's tune 182 048 707

Love the Horizon 3 loading screen. Take me away...Wow that was good for the soul when I loaded the game up last night.

 

[GTvsForza]

One 323, 4Runner and Sandman later:

 

[McLaren]

What better way to do in a Forza tie-in than doing a Thrustmaster ad while playing Gran Turismo. These guys are ****ing idiots and I already hate whatever they're going to bring to the game.

I made it 3 minutes in and turned it off.

"So, what we have here is this Challenger".

These guys are supposed know cars & got the name of the most iconic car in the franchise wrong off the bat....

 

[-Fred-]

’****ing idiots’ because of an ad? Bit of a overreaction don’t you think?

You're 2 weeks away from a product highlighting your brand and you advertise another "competitor"... Imagine Max Verstappen going to an interview post race with a can of Monster in hand. Poor taste and honestly quite idiotic.

 

[strela]

You're 2 weeks away from a product highlighting your brand and you advertise another "competitor"... Imagine Max Verstappen going to an interview post race with a can of Monster in hand. Poor taste and honestly quite idiotic.

Why is it idiotic? Are they not just some YouTubers? Is it the same as all other influencers? The more exposure the better? I never bothered about them even when I played Dirt5 yet here I am searching what that brand has to offer because some really hate them.

 

[breyzipp]

This video is a month old but I only found out about it now, has it been posted here already? If so my apologies. If not, then this is a must watch IMO.

We all love the franchise but IMO all this critique from the video is very valid. In the beginning of the video he goes in-depth on all the issues of the races themselves (difficulty, AI, terrain, checkpoints, rewind, …) which are all on-point but I have not seen anyone mention them before.

 

[Apple Slipper]

Why is it idiotic? Are they not just some YouTubers? Is it the same as all other influencers? The more exposure the better? I never bothered about them even when I played Dirt5 yet here I am searching what that brand has to offer because some really hate them.

I like Donut Media, but the content has taken a big dip since Recurrent Ventures bought the channel.

 

[UKMikey]

We all love the franchise but IMO all this critique from the video is very valid. In the beginning of the video he goes in-depth on all the issues of the races themselves (difficulty, AI, terrain, checkpoints, rewind, …) which are all on-point but I have not seen anyone mention them before.

Your video needs a NSFW spoiler. Whitelight likes to drop F-bombs throughout the initial part of the video.

I get the points about how the racing against AI could be improved (and would suggest that some events which rely on an online subscription on console could do with alternative routes to 100% completion).

It sounds like his major problem with the story and characters is that the game is trying to appeal to too many people but I'm not sure how you put that genie back in the bottle. Which group of people should the game stop appealing to, to make the game better? If the answer is casuals who can't play then he's talking about making the game more hardcore which I don't think is the developers' aim with the Horizon franchise.

It also sounds like he's saying the story would be more engaging with some edgier characters that were more hateable like in Horizon 1. They tried to do this with the Born Fast crew but they're kind of ciphers compared to the mostly "horrible" (to the player) characters in 1. Having more NPCs (not in the derogatory sense) populating race start points and cinematics would increase the festival vibe though.

But only the first part of the video seemed to suggest obvious solutions to balancing the game. By the time he reached the end it seemed to be about feelings and personal preference which are harder to address without running the risk of alienating even more people. It's a difficult balancing act that the game may not be pulling off but I'm not sure if there's an obvious solution besides hiring different people to be in charge of game direction.

Maybe having a number of different routes to completion might help but I'm not sure as it'd attract criticism that only those who have completed the hardcore route are legitimate players. I really don't know. How do you "un-Microsoft" the franchise and restore its identity? It's not as obvious as it may seem to some people.