Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[KILLER2JZ]

Some possibilities (some more likely than others) based on my running list:

Ariel Atom 4/4R
Ariel Hipercar
BAC Mono R
Caparo T1 (returning, unlikely)
Newer Caterham 7 model?
Donkervoort F22
Elfin MS8 Streamliner (unlikely, but would be awesome)
Exomotive Exocet V8 XP-5 (from Motorsport)
Ginetta Akula
Ginetta G55 GT4 (from Motorsport)
Ginetta G40 Junior (from Motorsport, would be awesome)
Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition (returning, probably not)
Porsche 992 911 GT3 RS
Radical Rapture
Radical SR3 XX
Radical SR8 RX (Returning)
Something from Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus?
Ultima RS
Zenos E10 R (unlikely)

Now this is a list of cars I can get behind would love to see these come to Forza 😍

 

[pclark06]

Some possibilities (some more likely than others) based on my running list:

Ariel Atom 4/4R
Ariel Hipercar
BAC Mono R
Caparo T1 (returning, unlikely)
Newer Caterham 7 model?
Donkervoort F22
Elfin MS8 Streamliner (unlikely, but would be awesome)
Exomotive Exocet V8 XP-5 (from Motorsport)
Ginetta Akula
Ginetta G55 GT4 (from Motorsport)
Ginetta G40 Junior (from Motorsport, would be awesome)
Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition (returning, probably not)
Porsche 992 911 GT3 RS
Radical Rapture
Radical SR3 XX
Radical SR8 RX (Returning)
Something from Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus?
Ultima RS
Zenos E10 R (unlikely)

I don't think they would add any of the GT3/GTE/TA/etc. or older racing cars that are in Motorsport this update, especially since they did one with cars like that recently already. But those may not be off the table either.

I could see TCR. Maybe one or two TCR cars like the Golf or Astra in FM. The official Horizon account did retweet the Horizon Touring Car Cup account recently.

They could follow the same Toyota-Subaru-Mitsubishi-European Car pattern with this too lol. Yaris TCR, Levorg BTCC, ???, Golf, 308 or Astra TCR (I’m unsure what Mitsubishi they would choose lol. They could choose a second Time Attack car to go with the Lancer, like the double wing Scion or a RX7?)

 

[Digolgrin]

I could see TCR. Maybe one or two TCR cars like the Golf or Astra in FM. The official Horizon account did retweet the Horizon Touring Car Cup account recently.

They could follow the same Toyota-Subaru-Mitsubishi-European Car pattern with this too lol. Yaris TCR, Levorg BTCC, ???, Golf, 308 or Astra TCR (I’m unsure what Mitsubishi they would choose lol. They could choose a second Time Attack car to go with the Lancer, like the double wing Scion or a RX7?)

Heck they could do just a straight-up touring car update, like you suggested earlier, but I have a feeling they'll just emphasize track toys and sports cars instead. We've kinda been in the slow lane for cars as of late, so an update that's just straight-up track-ready rides is sorely needed IMO.

If we're talkin' Mitsubishis though, I'd be all for a ninth-gen Galant or a returning Eclipse. Heck, there's even a tuner Lancer that got lost to time, the FQ-330, getting that back would be nice.

 

[pez2k]

If we're talkin' Mitsubishis though, I'd be all for a ninth-gen Galant or a returning Eclipse. Heck, there's even a tuner Lancer that got lost to time, the FQ-330, getting that back would be nice.

The FQ-330 was a standard UK model, not a tuned car. For some reason though, the VIII MR in FH5 still has the FQ-330's extra torque, and always has done. It was fixed in FM7 but like a few other such corrections it never made its way to FH5.

 

[pclark06]

@Digolgrin Probably would be under rally monsters but the Space Star R5 was my go to for Dirt 2.0 lol

I guess a Lancer Wagon Evo could also be a more obscure one or the Stealth being a Diamond-Star collab even though those aren’t track toys

Edit: since I’m home and bored, time to predict the next few updates before a possible FH6, aka fancy ways to fill out the car roster.

Nov: Track Toys (maybe a TCR update?)

Dec: Holiday celebration where we get a bunch of hypercars like usual

Jan: Back to the 2000s - fills in the gaps for missing 2000s cars like the Altezza and would be a Y2K type of theme

Feb: Retro European: possibly where the FOMO 928 shows up along with like the DS3, Rover SD1 or something

Mar: Horizon Concours d’Elegance: basically would span 1920s-1970s which still has missing cars like the Austin Seven

Apr: Subcompact month: would include rumored Kei cars and hint at Japan (bring back the Cygnet, imo)

May: idk, wagons? that would be interesting. maybe they celebrate previous Horizons again

June: FH6 Japan/Asia announced, they announce a title car like the Civic and this is when is shows up. Probably another Toyota saloon as well. They announced the VUHL/FH5 in June as the last car. Would be last car update before FH6

 

[GBalao888]

My prediction:

Overall: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) '22
Spring: Hennessey Venom F5 Revolution '23
Summer: Ginetta Akula '19
Autumn: KTM X-Bow GT-XR '23
Winter: McMurtry Spierling '22

And on the topic of FH6's potential location, South Korea won't be too far-fetched considering the sheer amount of Hyundais we've been getting, but the demand for it to be set in Japan is almost impossible to ignore.

And considering Tokyo Xtreme Racer is coming out next year means there will be stiff competition indeed.

 

[Digolgrin]

@Digolgrin Probably would be under rally monsters but the Space Star R5 was my go to for Dirt 2.0 lol

I guess a Lancer Wagon Evo could also be a more obscure one or the Stealth being a Diamond-Star collab even though those aren’t track toys

A Space Star wouldn't be unwelcome either, yeah. I know it's a Rally5 car, I never gave it much thought when I played Dirt 2.0, but I can see the appeal.

As for these Series predictions... Honestly I kinda like this, brought me back around to the idea that maybe we'll get one or two more big updates beyond this year's holiday update before the plug is pulled. Heck, why don't I try my hand at this too?

November: Horizon Track Day (of course, this is what everyone seems to agree is a big Track Toys update, but I wouldn't put it past them to include more B and A class sports cars alongside it)
December: Holiday Update, of course (...would anyone happen to have any predictions for what they could offer as gift cars this year?)
January: Horizon 2K (2000s focused update, ostensibly, but could also be a smokescreen for early 2010s stuff)
February: French Automotive or Asian Automotive (Because I saw "Concours d'Elegance" and instantly thought 'oh hey we get two Automotive Excellence updates a year, why not dedicate one to France?'--but since February is roughly when the Lunar New Year falls, I wouldn't be surprised if they brought back the Drift Arena and had a more generalized Asian Automotive update, kinda like what happened with European Automotive. I shudder to think of the popular reaction to this update though, considering this might mean more Chinese cars.)
March: Horizon Legends (Basically a celebration of fan favorite Horizon cars; this is where we'd get the 928 and a lot of highly requested returning cars. Perhaps this is also a case of 'hey you're getting a highly requested New-to-Forza car', and we get, like, the Fiat Uno or something.)
April: Horizon Fools (Probably a kinder way of putting it that doesn't immediately invoke April Fools Day, but this could be a celebration of weird and wonderful cars to celebrate April Fools' Day all month long. Sure a lot of these would be not that much more than upgrade fodder but you could get a four-car update out of this.)
May: Australian Automotive (Kind of throwing crap at the wall here, but the Land Down Under really does deserve some love in this new era of Automotive Excellence updates. Maybe one of the last cars there can be a Japanese car that did incredibly well in V8 Supercars competition to hint at whatever they have planned, assuming a FH6 reveal in June for E3.)
June: Final Horizons (The plug-pulling update. Adds FH6 cover car, plus some other cars from the setting country. You could probably also get a couple more updates beyond this before then, but with Fable probably having its release date by then I'm not holding my breath.)

 

[The_Greaser]

March: Horizon Legends (Basically a celebration of fan favorite Horizon cars; this is where we'd get the 928 and a lot of highly requested returning cars. Perhaps this is also a case of 'hey you're getting a highly requested New-to-Forza car', and we get, like, the Fiat Uno or something.)

Why not make that series dedicated to the lost survivors of FH1 metal we never saw again (and no other racing game to this day is even interested in it)?

Would love to see the old Audi R8 GT in both coupe and spyder models come back. So would the iconic S-class we lost, alongside the ill-fated MINI coupe almost nobody got. At the very least they could be remodeled, just as the C30 Polestar was a late entrant given the filenames.

 

[Digolgrin]

Why not make that series dedicated to the lost survivors of FH1 metal we never saw again (and no other racing game to this day is even interested in it)?

Would love to see the old Audi R8 GT in both coupe and spyder models come back. So would the iconic S-class we lost, alongside the ill-fated MINI coupe almost nobody got. At the very least they could be remodeled, just as the C30 Polestar was a late entrant given the filenames.

Oooh, that's a thought. I was thinking this would be a grab-bag update with maybe a highly-requested new car thrown in there for good measure, so there'd be a possibility for a whole bunch of returning cars that got left out of prior updates for one reason or another. But I figure, that game's anniversary's long past so they'd have more license to pull from the game's history.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

FH5 Release Notes: October 7th, 2024​

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We're constantly working to improve the experience in Forza Horizon 5. Below you will find a summary of items fixed or improved upon in this update.
Version Number:

• Xbox One: 2.663.817.0
• Xbox Series: 3.663.817.0
• PC: 3.663.817.0
• Steam: 1.663.817.0

New Features (Available from October 7)

• 10 Hide & Seek Achievements
• 1 EventLab Prop: Inflatable VHS
• Horizon Backstage (Available from October 10) featuring a growing selection of “Hard to find” cars from previous Series
  • Will feature 2 additional “Hard to find” cars every week, based on in-game players' votes (Backstage Voting)
  • Horizon Backstage cars can be purchased only with Horizon Backstage Passes (unlockable twice a week, as 40 Points reward in the Festival Playlist and/or by #Forzathon shop for 1000 #Forzathon points) through the Horizon Backstage Shop
  • Horizon Backstage Shop initial car list (available from October 10):
    • 1967 Mercedes-Benz 280 SL
    • 1980 Fiat 131 Abarth
    • 2013 Cadillac XTS Limousine
    • 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
    • 2021 BMW M4 Competition Coupe
    • 2022 Rivian R1S

4 Unlockable Cars (Available from October 10 onwards)

• 1990 Aston Martin Lagonda
• 1996 Subaru SVX
• 1997 Toyota Soarer 2.5 GT-T
• 1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R

"Back To The 90s" Limited Timed Series Features (Available October 10 to November 7)

• 3 Player Badges
• 1 90’s Outfit
• 1 Series Car Collector Accolade
• Evolving World: Inflatable VHS Collectible

Bug fixes and changes​

General

• Fixed a reoccurring issue where no traffic cars were appearing in Street Races events (Bug 3931337)
• Fixed an issue with a number of Hide & Seek Accolades and Badges which were not correctly localized in German, Danish, Spanish, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Dutch, Russian and Swedish (Bug 3953941)
• General performance and stability fixes

Hide & Seek

• Fixed an issue where players’ license plates could reset after leaving the game mode (Bug 3955662)
• Fixed an issue where players could activate the reset car feature while in motion (Bug 3955573)
• Fixed an issue where players, with certain vehicles, were able to clip through some walls in Playa Azul (Bug 3955173)
• Fixed an issue where players couldn’t enter the Hide & Seek menu in the Online tab while being a Convoy Member (Bug 3951598)
• Fixed an issue where sometimes players were unable to enter a 'Hide & Seek' match session as a Convoy, through the Festival Playlist (Bug 3954729)
• Fixed an issue where the border of the Guanajuato area was not entirely visible in the game world (Bug 3951074)
• Fixed an issue where entering the Hide & Seek menu on a DLC map could take players on the main map even without starting the matchmaking (Bug 3952294)

Cars

• Fixed an issue with the 1994 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III GSR where the yellow colour was missing from the paint selection screen (Bug 3955660)

 

[L8 Apex]

Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I can see them tying next May's update in with Cinco de Mayo and (FINALLY) adding some more Mexico-centric cars like the Chevrolet Chevy, third-gen Dodge Ramcharger, VAM Lerma, Mastretta MXT, etc.

 

[Digolgrin]

Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I can see them tying next May's update in with Cinco de Mayo and (FINALLY) adding some more Mexico-centric cars like the Chevrolet Chevy, third-gen Dodge Ramcharger, VAM Lerma, Mastretta MXT, etc.

I mean, Year One had a big Cinco de Mayo update, and that was essentially just the big Ferrari update. An official Mexican Automotive Excellence update for next May wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, that being said. though most of the cars they could realistically get for that theme would either be built there already or be culturally significant imports. I doubt we'd see Mexican manufacturers beyond VUHL, unfortunately.

 

[Edax 76]

Yay the new achievements popped retrospectively.

 

[pclark06]

Looks like the Lagonda is in Retro Sports Cars instead of Saloons, which I guess is good competition for the similarly underpowered IRL Delorean. All four cars being new additions to Retro Sports Cars basically makes this an update for that category.

 

[Digolgrin]

Looks like the Lagonda is in Retro Sports Cars instead of Saloons, which I guess is good competition for the similarly underpowered IRL Delorean. All four cars being new additions to Retro Sports Cars basically makes this an update for that category.

I gotta admit I was surprised by that swerve. I was fully expecting it to go into Cult Classics, actually, once I saw the incredibly painful acceleration on stream (I mean, holy crap, an acceleration stat of 2.3?! That's actually worse than the DeLorean!), but to be fair no one liked the Lagonda either, outside of its looks and its space-age technology, so may as well call it about the only thing that makes sense according to the stats.

Guess that's more points to Horizon Track Day being a Track Toys update then.

 

[Digolgrin]

...okay, if I'd known the Soarer came with an all-digital dashboard with a unique speedometer font, I wouldn't have been so harsh on it. They really did their best to make sure this thing felt distinct from the LC300.

 

[UKMikey]

 

[Edax 76]

I watched this the other night bud. The man's a wizard. That jump out of Copper Canyon......wow

 

[UKMikey]

I watched this the other night bud. The man's a wizard. That jump out of Copper Canyon......wow

It's not just the driving which must have taken hundreds of hours of dedication and trial and error. It's the track design and drone camerawork he uses to show off his insane skills to the best advantage. It's great to have a reminder that there's more to this game than car count.

 

[DoYouFast]

Can the file explorers find anything about the revuelto?

 

[Edax 76]

It's not just the driving which must have taken hundreds of hours of dedication and trial and error. It's the track design and drone camerawork he uses to show off his insane skills to the best advantage. It's great to have a reminder that there's more to this game than car count.

Very true bud. His tunes are always worth trying out too.

In other news, I've just been hanging out in The Trial with @Seb75 . He did far better than I did too. I went into it under powered, however with @Seb75 driving and two other team mates we romped home in two races. It was a pleasure racing with you bud 👍 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

 

[Digolgrin]

Can the file explorers find anything about the revuelto?

I'll... have to confirm this myself, I'm starting my Trial now.

Edit: Yeah that guy must've been seeing things 'cause I didn't see anything related to a teaser at all in there.

 

[nukleabomb]

Can the file explorers find anything about the revuelto?

I suspect that someone on their team had a Revuelto profile pic, and that's what they saw (on the team win screen).

 

[Digolgrin]

On that note, actually, does anyone have any predictions as to what the gift cars for the Holiday Update Secret Santa thing are going to be this year? The Revuelto's a decent candidate sure, but since that event's traditionally been reserved for hypercar gifts, it may not be in the cards.

 

[Justuxful]

My bet is on the Gemera, it’s the third most voted for car, and the production car has been out long enough for them to model it.

As for the Revuelto, it all depends if the exclusivity for TCM has ended, cause if so, I could see it or the MC20 be the second gift.

That is, if we’re getting two gifts like last year, cause the first two years we only got one, but fingers crossed for two again.



Off topic, but FM23 got three Formula Drift Mustangs, so a good chance they somehow show up in the next FH5 update as well.

 

[Vince_GT]

I bet the Pagani Utopia will come in next updates speaking of Hypercars.
Also Koenisegg Gemera/Bugatti Bolide can be good candidates.

 

[Digolgrin]

My bet is on the Gemera, it’s the third most voted for car, and the production car has been out long enough for them to model it.

As for the Revuelto, it all depends if the exclusivity for TCM has ended, cause if so, I could see it or the MC20 be the second gift.

That is, if we’re getting two gifts like last year, cause the first two years we only got one, but fingers crossed for two again.



Off topic, but FM23 got three Formula Drift Mustangs, so a good chance they somehow show up in the next FH5 update as well.

I mean, we did get two gifts last year--the Gordon Murray T.50 and Aston Martin Valkyrie were both Secret Santas rewards for Year 3's holiday event.

As for the Gemera... that's a very distinct possibility. Apparently they did show a bit of its interior off here, in this short, so they've got something resembling a model in the files at least.

 

[nukleabomb]

I mean, we did get two gifts last year--the Gordon Murray T.50 and Aston Martin Valkyrie were both Secret Santas rewards for Year 3's holiday event.

As for the Gemera... that's a very distinct possibility. Apparently they did show a bit of its interior off here, in this short, so they've got something resembling a model in the files at least.

Pretty sure that's the Jesko

You can see the vents at the top of the fender in the day shots

 

[Digolgrin]

Pretty sure that's the Jesko

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You can see the vents at the top of the fender in the day shots

Oh, dammit you're right, I just hopped in my Jesko to check. I was looking more at the steering wheel and I got excited.

 

[-Fred-]

Aside from the obviously better headlight textures on the Soarer, the models themselves are pretty similar. Still think the Vertex kit on the SC300 is better, but that's just me.