Forza Motorsport 7: Will it have what you're looking for?

Discussion in 'Forza Motorsport 7' started by PJTierney, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. PJTierney

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    We're all Forza fans, otherwise we wouldn't be here ;)

    As fans of this franchise we all want the games to be tailored to our needs, or have opinions on "what the development team should do". These normally take the form of wishlists, and below you will find a large one I compiled and will be keeping track of during the pre-release period. I may also add to it if certain features appear to be highly requested by others.

    The end goal is that if somebody wants to know "Will Forza Motorsport 7 be the game I want it to be?", that they can check this list and make the right call and choose whether or not the game is for them.

    I'll be checking off the boxes as things get confirmed, hopefully it proves useful :)


    • :sly:: Confirmed to be included.
    • :confused:: "Sort of" implemented (may be similar idea, different execution etc.).
    • :ouch:: Not going to be included.


    Single Player Campaign

    • [_] Co-Op Campaign (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [:confused:]Ability to "Blueprint" Single-Player events and take part in custom Single Player events created by others. (Forza Horizon 3)
      (Custom Career races are confirmed, but use of other players' events is not.)
    • [_] License Tests (Gran Turismo 4)

    • [:ouch:] Career progression unlocked via a "Star System". (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [:ouch:] Limit initial stages of Career to slower cars before unlocking access to faster cars later on. (Forza Horizon 3: Hot Wheels Expansion)

    • [:sly:] Multi-race Championships with point standings. (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Driving Missions (Gran Turismo 4)

    • [:ouch:] Drift Challenges (Driveclub)

    • [_] Hotlap Challenges (Driveclub)

    • [:ouch:] Drag Racing Challenges

    • [_] Add ability to let your Drivatar drive a Single Player race instead of you. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [:confused:] Events tied to specific manufacturers, drivetrains and regions. (Gran Turismo 4)
      (Based on Single Player information revealed so far, the majority of events will focus on Divisions, like in Forza Horizon 3)

    Single Player Free Play

    • [_] Ability to select cars used by individual Drivatars.

    • [_] Ability to allow Drivatars to use cars from your Garage.

    • [_] Have all Drivatars in a race be pulled from your Friends/Club list if possible.

    • [_] Add ability to view the driving habits of your own Drivatar, with suggestions on how to improve various aspects of their driving ability.




    Additional Single Player Features

    • [_] Racing Challenges, teaching the fundamentals of how to overtake, defend and race cleanly. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [_] Driving Tutorial videos (DiRT Rally)

    • [_] Painting Tutorial videos

    • [_] Tuning Tutorial videos




    Tracks / Environment

    • [_] Point-to-Point stages (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [:ouch:] Off-Road courses/stages (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Courses specifically designed for Drifting.

    • [ ] Dynamic Time of Day (F1 2016)

    • [:sly:] Dynamic Weather (F1 2016)

    • [_] DLC tracks available to all players for free in Multiplayer Hoppers. (Gran Turismo 6)




    Cars

    • [_] Ability to categorise owned cars into custom groups, and to re-arrange said groups. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Ability to drive convertible cars "with the roof down".

    • [_] Ability to view detailed car specs without having to "get into the car". (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Key components (engine, chassis, oil etc.) deteriorate over time and can be maintained/restored. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Ability to buy "used cars" at a lower price than new versions. (Gran Turismo 4)

    • [_] Ability to sell cars "back to the game", and have them appear in the "used cars" buylists of other players.

    • [_] Individual affinity levels for cars with small bonuses (such as discounts on upgrade parts or small CR rewards) for higher levels. (Driveclub)

    • [_] Ability to add/remove license plates. (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Ability to manually deploy KERS or any other electric boost system on cars that allow it. (Driveclub)

    • [_] Ability to manually deploy DRS or any other aerodymanic control system on cars that allow it. (Driveclub)

    • [_] Ability to set differing strengths of Traction Control on a scale of 1-5. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [_] Ability to set differing strengths of ABS on a scale of 1-5. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [:ouch:] Ability to manually adjust Brake Balance while driving. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [:ouch:] Ability to set Assists to "realistic", whereby Traction Control etc. is only available on a car that would have it "in real life". (Project CARS)

    • [_] Award exclusive cars for reaching maximum manufacturer affinity levels.

    • [_] Ability to use car horn in races. (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [:ouch:] Ability to flash lights in races or toggle high/low/no beam. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Have separate PI rating systems and Classes for race cars and non-race cars.

    • [_] Ability to set starting fuel level. (Gran Turismo 6)




    Photo Mode

    • [_] Increase height limit on Photo Mode camera to 4.0m/12ft.

    • [_] Ability to save photos to USB.

    • [_] Ability to save photos at 4K resolution.

    • [_] Ability to save preset filter settings.

    • [_] Ability to upload preset filter settings to the Storefront.

    • [_] Ability to view/download the photo settings used when viewing a photo in the Storefront.

    • [_] Ability to use preset "high camera locations" around a circuit in addition to the standard camera controls. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Ability to take photos of cars in pre-set, non-driveable locations. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [_] Ability to remove visible car damage when taking a photo. (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Ability to remove the driver from a car when taking a photo.

    • [_] Ability to play a slideshow of saved photos. (Gran Turismo 4)




    Livery Editor

    • [:sly:] Ability to import Designs and Vinyl Groups from Forza Motorsport 6 and Forza Horizon 3.

    • [_] Ability to set usage rights when sharing a design or vinyl group.
      Examples include "allow others to edit and re-publish shared content", "allow others to share content on Auction House", "do not allow content to be edited or re-published".

    • [_] Ability to categorise saved Vinyl Groups into folders.

    • [_] Ability to view saved Vinyl Groups in a grid layout. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [_] Ability to paint cars in a plain studio with neutral lighting (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [:ouch:] Ability to create and paint windshield banners.

    • [:ouch:] Ability to paint on side/rear windows.

    • [_] Ability to mirror specific layers or groups, both horizontally and vertically.

    • [_] Ability to paint on top of carbon fibre surfaces (previously unpaintable areas such as wings etc.).

    • [_] Ability to save colours to a swatches pallette.

    • [_] Additional typefaces/fonts, such as DIN Pro, Futura Bold and Gotham.

    • [_] Ability to paint sidewalls of tyres.

    • [_] Ability to set individual layer groups to gloss/matte/metallic finishes. (Driveclub)




    Auction House

    • [:sly:] Add Auction House (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Allow for cars to be set to "Buyout Only".

    • [_] Ability to list auctions with a minimum bid of 100 CR.

    • [_] Ability to list auctions without a buyout price.

    • [_] Ability to list auctions with a minimum buyout of 100 CR.

    • [_] Ability to place a custom bidding price on an Auction.

    • [_] Ability to "back out" of an Auction and redeem credits before the Auction is over.

    • [_] Ability to automatically re-list an Auction if it does not sell.

    • [_] Ability to automatically sell a car "back to the game" for a small CR amount if it does not sell at Auction.

    • [_] Limit a seller to a specific number active Auctions at a time, and show this number in the Auction House menu.




    Storefront & User-Created Content

    • [_] Add Storefront (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Add Storefront user search menu.

    • [_] Show number of downloads alongside each item in search results and Recommended Designs/Tunes. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Show descriptions alongside each item. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Add ability to filter for content created by "Legendary Painter", "Elite Tuner" etc.

    • [_] Add UI icon to show if a an item is an official contest winner.

    • [_] Add ability to sort search results and Recommended Tunes/Designs by Popularity, Downloads etc.

    • [_] Set default Recommended Designs sorting to the following, in order: Featured, Friends, Followed Players, Most Popular over Past 30 Days

    • [_] Add "Featured Content" area to show content from all users (across all cars) that has been selected as a Featured Item. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Add UI icon to show if a selected item can be edited or re-published.

    • [_] Add UI icon to show if a selected Tune has been used to set a high leaderboard position, such as Top 100, Top 1% etc.

    • [_] Ability to change a shared item's description without having to unshare the file.

    • [_] Ability to set tunes to be shared "unlocked" so that users can modify them after they have been downloaded.

    • [_] Ability to add Blueprint events to Storefronts.

    • [_] Ability to view Storefronts on Forzamotorsport.net

    • [_] Ability to search for Liveries/Tunes across all cars, and not just the car you are currently driving. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Limit maximum number of designs to 50 per user, or an unlimited amount per VIP user (Forza Motorsport 4)




    Leaderboards

    • [_] Provide Leaderboard API so that community users can create websites/apps to look up leaderboards outside of the game. (Forza Motorsport 5)

    • [_] Compile all Leaderboard times for a class into an "Overall Position", showing a user's combined laptimes for all tracks. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Allow for leaderboards to be viewed on Forzamotorsport.net and/or Forza Hub. (Forza Motorsport 5)

    • [_] Ability to download tunes directly from leaderboards. (Forza Motorsport 6)

    • [_] Add UI icon to show if a user set a laptime using a Controller, Steering Wheel or Keyboard.

    • [_] Add offline-based "local leaderboards" where a user can compare their personal best times at a circuit in multiple cars. (Forza Motorsport 2)

    • [_] Add ability to set a Leaderboard time as a Rival, and use the exact same car/setup to challenge them.

    • [_] Club leaderboards, where the fastest laptime from a club member is treated as that club's laptime, allowing for clubs to compete against one another. (Driveclub)

    • [_] Ability for players to create and distribute custom Rivals Mode events. (Driveclub)

    • [_] Ability to view and compete in any publicly listed Custom Rivals Mode event. (Driveclub)

    • [_] Ability to race against multiple Ghosts at the same time, such as Session Best, Personal Best and Specific Rival.




    Multiplayer

    • [_] Give each driver a "Skill Rating" calculated based on their overall pace level, use this rating to influence matchmaking, and show this rating in Lobbies. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [_] Give each driver a "Sportsmanship Rating" calculated based on their ability to drive/race cleanly, use this rating to influence matchmaking, and show this rating in Lobbies. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [:sly:] Add corner-cutting penalty system to punish users that repeatedly cut corners. (F1 2016)

    • [_] Add "illegal overtake" system to inform users that they must give back positions gained by contact or corner-cutting. (F1 2016)

    • [_] Automatically and immediately ghost any driver that makes contact with another car or object at a force above 2G.

    • [_] Automatically and immediately ghost any driver that enters within a 1m/3ft radius of another car while driving at a speed that is 50mph greater than said driver. (Gran Turismo Sport)

    • [_] Automatically and immediately ghost any driver that is facing the wrong way.

    • [_] Automatically and immediately ghost any driver that driving at a speed of under 20kph.

    • [_] In Public Hopper races, ghost all drivers that fall more than 2km behind the race leader.

    • [_] Add UI icon in lobbies to show if a user has received a "Vote to Kick". (DiRT Rally)

    • [_] Kick a user if they have received at least 5 "Kick Votes" in a room with 16 or fewer players, or 8 votes if in a room with 17-24 players.

    • [:ouch:] Add a "Lobby Browser" to show and filter all joinable user-created lobbies in a list. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Add "Expert Hopper Lobbies" which require a minimum Trueskill Rating and minimum Driver Level to compete in. Damage would be enabled along with any penalty systems in place, and most assists would be disabled.

    • [_] Add "Competitive Hopper Lobbies" where users can increase or decrease their ranking by finishing races. (Rocket League)

    • [_] Increase minimum race length in Hoppers to roughly 10 minutes of driving time, or 5 laps on an average length circuit.

    • [:ouch:] Allow users to search for Hoppers which have an average Driver Level of 100 or higher.

    • [_] Add post-race commemorations to show notable feats achieved by players. Examples could include "Fastest Lap", "Most Overtakes", "Cleanest Racer", "Most Clean Laps" etc. (Overwatch)

    • [_] Add text chat to Private Lobbies (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [:confused:] Add ability to create Practice/Qualifying sessions Multiplayer Lobbies (Gran Turismo 6).
      (You can now hot-lap pre-race, but no mention of Qualifying just yet)

    • [_] Add ability to join a Practice/Qualifying session in progress and start in the Pit Lane (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [:sly:] Add ability to tune a car while in a lobby. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Add ability to limit all players to the same car/tune that the host of a private Lobby is using.

    • [_] Award additional XP for Clean Racing. (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Sort starting grids in Hoppers based on "Skill Rating", with higher-rated drivers at the front.

    • [_] Allow users to save and load Lobby Settings as preset files. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Allow users to disable any "sticky grass" and remove any on-track barriers in Private Lobbies.

    • [_] Allow users to download the Livery or Tune of another racer directly from the Lobby screen. (Forza Motorsport 6)

    • [_] Add UI icon to show if a player is using a steering wheel, controller or keyboard.

    • [_] Add UI icon to show if a player is playing on Xbox One or PC.

    • [_] Add ability to save preset Lobby Settings.

    • [_] Add ability to upload preset Lobby Settings to Storefront.

    • [_] Allow users to create private Multiplayer Championships that run over multiple weeks. (Project CARS 2)



    Clubs & Other Community Features

    • [_] Add Clubs (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [_] Allow users to share cars to a Club Garage which can be used by all club members. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Allow users to modify any designs or tunes on a car which has been shared to a Club Garage.

    • [_] Allow users to create Private Lobbies limited to Club Members, which show up on the Club's Lobby page (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Allow users to create and maintain Driver Profiles where they can show off their racing accomplishments, photos and favourite cars. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Implement a Timeline feature where users can keep updated on the activity of their Friends. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [:ouch:] Allow users to privately give or sell cars to each other. (Forza Motorsport 4)

    • [_] Allow users to privately give editable liveries, tunes and layer groups to each other. (Forza Motorsport 4)




    Spectating & Replays

    • [_] Show Race UI such as position, laptimes etc. when viewing a Replay or spectating a race. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Ability to view Live Timing on a Replay or when spectating a race. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Ability to view Replays using cameras placed in the same locations as real-life motorsport events.




    Other Features

    • [_] Ability to analyse Telemetry Data outside of a race. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Ability to export Telemetry Data to USB in a format readable by MoTeC. (Gran Turismo 6)

    • [_] Show time gaps to drivers ahead/behind when crossing a sector. (Driveclub)

    • [:ouch:] Add a flag system resembling modern motorsport (F1 2016).

    • [:confused:] Add a "Live Track" system that allows a track's surface to evolve over time. (Project CARS 2) [Puddlesand surface can change due to weather, but no confirmation of tyre marbles, track rubbering etc.]

    • [_] Add an Overhead Radar and left/right car proximity warnings to the race HUD (Gran Turismo Sport).

    • [:sly:] Weekly #Forzathon challenges. (Forza Horizon 3)

    • [:sly:] Customisable Racing Gear




    Business Model

    • [:ouch:] Provide a "Complete Edition" of the game at launch that covers the cost of all future DLC for the game's lifetime.

    • [:ouch:] Extend "early release access" to 14 days ahead of retail release for Complete Edition users.

    • [_] Allow Forza Racing Championship finalists to beta test the game and provide feedback on any corner-cutting exploits they may find.

    • [:ouch:] Allow all VIP users to play the game 7 days before release.
     
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  2. RESHIRAM5

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    No information on customizable grids, so, so far, no.
     
  3. PiotrGT

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    I just hope It's 1080p/60fps on Xbox One S (and the regular one of course). Other than that it would be nice to have VWs back and maybe a bit better AI and generally small improvements here and there like ability to choose a colour of your car in free play. 700 cars and dynamic (it seems like this from what I saw, I think it'll be on selected tracks like Nurburgring or LeMans, still nice) weather makes me pretty hyped for the game but I'm hoping it won't impact the performance on non-X consoles.
     
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  4. yabiggoose

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    Gran Turismo has a top 10 leader board for each track (lap time) for single player free play. I want that function so bad.
     
  5. LumpiestFish

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    Is that not what rivals is?
     
  6. yabiggoose

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    No. Not at all.

    Offline single player personal top 10 laptimes you set on a track.
     
  7. RESHIRAM5

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    I would love to see some track customization but I know this won't be a priority for until maybe 2 - 3 more games in the motorsport series. Where they can make it fully fledged out, GT tried and either was limiteed (GT5) or had to rely on an outside source to make them. (GT6) So as much as I would love the feature I know it likely won't be a thing for a long time due to Turn 10s current focus and how difficult it would be to put it in, in this kind of genre.
     
  8. warp9engage

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    All cars available from the start in Freeplay, with the ability to choose manufacturer colors. The only thing I'd like to add to Freeplay, besides the already noted Blueprint.
     
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  9. Seanspeed

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    Large car and track selection along with Forza's patented customization and PC version - yea, it's got what I want.

    I dont think I really have any reason to buy GT Sport at this point.
     
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    Exactly. I have no idea why wouldn't they let us choose (at least manufacturer) colors for cars in freeplay.
    I think what Forza 7 will lack in, Project Cars 2 will make up for. Just hoping I'll be able to somehow get both, and I don't even have DiRT 4 yet.
     
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    They honestly had me at 700 cars at launch. Can't wait to see what's been added.

    I already have the Ultimate Edition preordered too.
     
  12. PJTierney

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    That sounds like a no to me.
     
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  13. JPinto

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    Have in mind FM6 with all DLC (605 cars, not including Forza Team cars) plus all the cars FH3 had and FM6 didn't (roughly 100 cars, not including HE cars) makes...710 cars or so when I checked. So space for new cars is tight, not without cutting many other things, or raising the total to 730 cars for example (would still be +700 cars)
     
  14. Nielsen

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    Whatever cars are missing in the final list better not be as great as the ones they dropped for FH3. I'm hoping they start by leaving out buggies and pickup trucks. They serve no purpose in FM7 unless there's some off-road venue, which I hope not.
     
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    Stuff like the Indycars, NASCAR/V8 Supercars/Formula E will be replaced by their newer counterparts for the most part, and it's safe to assume the off-road stuff like the Trophy Trucks and Raid cars will not make it in, if we're going by the ones that were in FH2 but not in FM6, so that leaves a bit more room.
     
  16. Nielsen

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    I have decided to copy the major points from my post in another thread into this thread. Consider it as my own way of keeping track of things and why not share it here.

    • [Confirmed] 60 FPS.
    • 98% of the cars from FM6 and FH3 + DLC.
    • [Confirmed] Content still not seen since the Xbox 360 era games.
    • [Confirmed] Porsche as day one content.
    • [VW confirmed] The return of VW and Citroën.
    • All tracks in FM6 returning.
    • [Confirmed] More tracks from Europe and Asia.
    • Pacific Raceways.
    • Improved physics.
    • Selectable AI opponent cars and colors in Free Play
    • Smarter AI.
    • [Confirmed] Improved car sounds.
    • [Dynamic Weather Confirmed] Dynamic weather and time of day.
    • [Confirmed] Forzathon.
    • [Confirmed] Auction house.
    • [Confirmed] Better looking trees.
    • [Confirmed] Mods (as implemented in FM6).
    • Upbeat electronica soundtrack similar to FM4.
    • Full rotation of the animated steering wheel for wheel users.
    • [Confirmed] More customization across the board.
     
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  17. Northstar

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    Confirmed things:

    - Return of Maple Valley, Mugello and Suzuka. Seems like they may be coming at the cost of other tracks though which could go either way depending on which ones get cut.
    - From what I've seen the rain looks much better. Seems they've toned down the puddles which ruined wet racing in FM6 for me.
    - New career mode. No details yet past the very basic but we know it won't be same terrible setup for the third game in a row.
    - Return of Forzathon

    Yet to be seen:
    - Tsukuba and hopefully another Asian track or two.
    - Blueprint with expanded options
    - Auction House & Storefront
    - Race weekend format with practice and qualifying
    - Expanded car customization.
    - Customization of single player grids
    - Improved AI
    - Decent field of current GTE, GT3 and GT4 race cars.
    - Proper drag racing. This wasn't on my list until the trailer, but since they showed a brief clip of drag racing hopefully they do it proper.
    - SS badging on Chevrolet's
    - All Australian cars from FH3 being carried over

    Of the unconfirmed things Blueprint is the biggest, it that doesn't make it in I may not buy the game at all.
     
  18. Uncle Ed

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    With T10's quick modelling, can we expect 2017 editions of those major race series? Day One patch? The #55 Super Cheap Falcon, was just a livery update in FH3. The #23 Altima would be the same. All that is left is to include Commodore.

    I'm expecting WTCC and GT4. There are also Rally X. I can't see T10 missing the boat on that. Especially since racing on different terrain in FH3.
     
  19. Northstar

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    I'm guessing the only way we'll see rally cross is if it's one of the expansions as the 30 tracks line doesn't really give room for any RX tracks.
     
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  20. PJTierney

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    One of the big ones off of my list:



    Horizon importing confirmed too.
     
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  21. ClydeYellow

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    Time to get working, then.

    TBH all I ask for - other than the necessary improvements to the handling model, which I'm sure will be coming - is (at least) some of the latest, newest GT3/GTE cars, some vintage Porsche racers to go with other cars that were in FM6's carlist already, and maybe a couple of decent IRL venues other than Mugello and Suzuka (and on that regard, I find it hard to believe that they didn't add at least another American track, especially considering their collaboration with NASCAR and Indycar).
     
  22. BoneSawTX

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    So far, yes.
     
  23. PJTierney

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    I just need to see improvements to Public Multiplayer racing now and I'll be all-in.
     
  24. TokoTurismo

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    The one feature I'm REEEEeally hoping to see is Blueprints. I love that feature in FH3 and hope to see it make its way into FM7. I love FM6 except its career mode, which got boring and repetitive real quick after finishing the last event imo.
     
  25. mrPetros

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    improvements like what? segregate the no-good drivers from those who understand what they're doing?
     
  26. PJTierney

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    There's a bunch of stuff in the first post, but the gist of it is that I'd like to be able to join a race with random players and have clean, fair racing the majority of the time.

    Gran Turismo 6 did a great job of this; I think I had less than 10 races with "wreckers" in the 18 months I played that game online.
     
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  27. RPM Bibblefish

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    Has there been any info yet about how the leaderboards will work in FM7?
     
  28. PJTierney

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    No.
     
  29. PJTierney

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    Some notable ones today:

    ✅ Auction House
    ❌ Custom Lobby Browser (Custom Public Lobbies)
     
  30. Odyofil

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    I'm waiting for the Carer Mode info.
     
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