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Are you Chris Esaki?
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no but I've spent over 30 years in games and can tell you that if you don't love the job, the game will suck.
But Forza Motorsport doesn't "suck". It overpromised and underdelivered? Yes. Was the inexperience from the lead director as such a factor? Probably. Was there corporate meddling? We can't know for certain but some design decisions sure reek of it. Did the pandemic complicated things, compromised deliveries and deadlines and so on? Most assuredly.
But don't forget that PD in the past was called out by fans and the press for using FM screenshots in their one of their titles. They also visited the Forza E3 booth. I also remember reading that PD visited their booth. Links no longer work because it's almost 15 years ago.
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You got some things mixed up, GT5 Prologue already had cockpits 2 years before forza, GT5 was doing 1080p 60 while forza was still 720p, GT5 had dynamic shadows and time of day 13 years before Forza, dynamic weather, laser scanned tracks years before forza, open wheel cars, etc etc.My point is that Forza Motorsport got PD to notice there was competition. It wasn't until GT5 that we had cockpit views in some of the cars. FM was already doing that. FM started using name brand parts for upgrades. That's how competition works. It makes your competitor push new ideas. FM7 was already doing 4K @ 60FPS
That said I prefer GT's simcade model vs Forza Motorsport simcade model. For me GT cars have a superb and more realistic level of adhesion on road surfaces. I also have been a huge fan of their rally car models which takes me back to GT2 for the original Playstation. I am still surprised they have not done a rally game while they instead have done a touring bike game for the PS2.
Edit: My bad it was PGR3 and not Forza screenshots that were used.
Sony accidently use PGR3 Screenshot for Gran Turismo – Console Monster
I checked and it was FM3 that introduced cockpits so you are correct, my bad. I thought it was with the first version. That's what happens when you approach 70 yrs old, time fly's and things get jumbled together. That said, lack of competition is never a good thing. Competition pushes both sides to produce better products.
Idk in Japanese culture it's normal to work well into old age, especially these days when there aren't enough young people entering the work force but he could move into a more advisory role. The age of retirement in japan is 65 and he is 58 now
Sure and I agree but FM became a very good racing title after the initial problems were address. However as the saying goes a little too late. FM graphics are solid if not exceptional as well as the driving model. I also like the reflections (i'm not sure if that is part of RT but the reflections are insane, very sharp and detailed on the car hood/bonnet and rear parts of the car whereas with GT I find the reflections hit and miss even with a PS5 Pro.
No voice overs in GT7, just text.
The Horizon series is extremely popular, no doubt. I think in some ways it's popularity harmed FM. Many people started to find Horizon more fun and slowly but surely, it was arrivederci for Motorsport. I don't think MSs greed played much of a role unless running both Horizon and Motorsport simultaneously could be interpreted as overextending themselves and therefore getting too greedy rather than sticking to the fundamentals of Motorsport.
I didn't say rush, I said push. As in final push;
Forza has never gone beyond raw specs, except for the tiny amount of voice overs in FM4's Autovista, and that was for a very small selection of cars. Outside of that, they did very little on the car culture side of things. And that always flew in the face of the claim that; they were trying to make car lovers into gamers, and gamers into car lovers. If I wanted to know anything about the cars in the game, I had to look it up. They gave lip service to liking cars but, in practice they shouted to keep that car lover crap out of their sandbox racing game!
I don't think it's to do with FH6.
Fh5 sold around 3 million the first couble of months on ps5 which is more than most fm will sell on all platforms, fm has never been a huge seller, even less so in the latest titles. Normally i had always prefered fm to fh, but their is no secret fh is the better made games nowdays. And i even find fh5 is a bit lacking in some areas.
