FRL ~ ToCA10 ~ GTP #1 ~ Polyphony Digital Win Bathurst From JoeOfTheFire.Finished 

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civic's ride height looks fine

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Some Understeer

3 wide!
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Sliding behind furi
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furi about to take me out!
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Using the Rangey as it was designed
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Me and Rolo being borderline on track limits i think!
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Panoz's view of me on the last lap coming up to the bus stop!
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@Holdenhsvgtsr Lap 7, race 2. Check replay of me starting run to Blanchimont :scared:

Also currently re speccing every car. Testing this morning found some ugly secrets.
 
Success Ballast would have been interesting if applied to the fastest drivers..Anyway I don't really care seeing has no chance of beating them at these tracks.
 
What are these secrets?
Success Ballast would have been interesting if applied to the fastest drivers..Anyway I don't really care seeing has no chance of beating them at these tracks.

Well i'm currently discussing this theory: (Quote from PM)




PD as we know had the wheel rim glitch about cars with changed wheel sizes. Now that was fixed but we don't know how it impacted cars built pre patch before the fix do we?

Now who's on top of the standings now or been very quick lately? @LancerEvo7 / @DrifterJoe / @Scaniabebe . They all built cars very close to season start.

Who's been / was struggling? Me / @Carbonox (in Renault) / @gtpanoz / @rolo912011. We all built cars a long time before season start.

That and I did a some offline Spa running this morning. Old RPM Focus 2:29.8 with 29.5 possible . New Focus built today 2:29.3 with easy 28's possible....



@Yeratel84 then correctly points out the actual bug affected RWD's only, but that was exclusively rim size. @LancerEvo7 has also said the Fords seemed different at Ascari. But how can it explain a 0.6 second deficit.?
 
I also mentioned to you that my car was bought and built on Xmas day... which was very soon into the pre-season...
 
I also mentioned to you that my car was bought and built on Xmas day... which was very soon into the pre-season...

But the Civic doesn;t have changeable rim size and so thus isn't affected or changed.
 
I actually built the Megane I'm running about 2 hours before the first round.. And use my Testing Megane for learning the track, etc. This means I've got a fresh car for the races..
 
I actually built the Megane I'm running about 2 hours before the first round.. And use my Testing Megane for learning the track, etc. This means I've got a fresh car for the races..

Exactly, I remember us discussing it on media night.
 
I built a new car last night and won... maybe that's why i've been having some dodgy results recently?
 
I built a new car last night and won... maybe that's why i've been having some dodgy results recently?

Did you a chassis refresh? I've done so every week to no avail...
 
No, i've been doing oil changes and engine rebuilds up to that point, but I actually bought a new Focus and re-specced it for last night. It felt a million times better.
 
No, i've been doing oil changes and engine rebuilds up to that point, but I actually bought a new Focus and re-specced it for last night. It felt a million times better.

Same - like I said so much quicker in the new Focus today this morning testing both cars out.
 
I thought it might work, and it did. Lost all of its understeer.
 
But the Civic doesn;t have changeable rim size and so thus isn't affected or changed.

Yeah, it doesn't... but it goes into saying that Honda specs were finalized long before the season started, so why all the fuzz regarding it's pace? Out of 4 drivers (3 full-time though), 2 have achieved good results throughout the season, so it can't be just the car... Just like for Ford, 1 driver out of 4/5 has been in the front since the first race and no one talked about that...

I built a new car last night and won... maybe that's why i've been having some dodgy results recently?

I believe you being more calm and controlled yesterday might have helped more than the new car... :p

Did you a chassis refresh? I've done so every week to no avail...

I've done my first chassis refresh before Ascari and didn't notice any change in car behaviour...
 
I believe you being more calm and controlled yesterday might have helped more than the new car... :p.
I was driving with the same Giovanardi-esque vigour as always :p
 
This is turning into a witch hunt or a conspiracy theory, depending on how you want to look at it.

From my point of view, it looks like people have not been testing thoroughly during pre-season (some seem to have tried only 1 or 2 cars on 1 track), and now that they are on totally different tracks, are surprised by how some cars have more top speed or are quicker through corners. Well, guess what? People that do their homework will have an advantage, because they will have chosen a car that actually performs well everywhere. For setting up gears, see Praiano's tuning page, Yeratel has already linked to it. That easily can bring a couple of tenths per lap. I also suspect some people are shifting way too late and are not using the power-band of their cars to the maximum. The red line is not the optimal shifting point in many cars.

@Furinkazen :I think your different times are either due to a placebo-effect, or your car's chassis rigidity has begun to deteriorate. I know my Civic had started to age after Ascari. (It had reached 1.000km - might be the limit)

I find this hysteria quite ridiculous, to be honest.
 
This is turning into a witch hunt or a conspiracy theory, depending on how you want to look at it.

From my point of view, it looks like people have not been testing thoroughly during pre-season (some seem to have tried only 1 or 2 cars on 1 track), and now that they are on totally different tracks, are surprised by how some cars have more top speed or are quicker through corners. Well, guess what? People that do their homework will have an advantage, because they will have chosen a car that actually performs well everywhere. For setting up gears, see Praiano's tuning page, Yeratel has already linked to it. That easily can bring a couple of tenths per lap. I also suspect some people are shifting way too late and are not using the power-band of their cars to the maximum. The red line is not the optimal shifting point in many cars.

@Furinkazen :I think your different times are either due to a placebo-effect, or your car's chassis rigidity has begun to deteriorate. I know my Civic had started to age after Ascari. (It had reached 1.000km - might be the limit)

I find this hysteria quite ridiculous, to be honest.

I'm not surprised and I had done a full overhaul before today on engine and chassis. Been doing it before every race night as well.
 
This isn't a placebo effect, it's just PD logic. It's not hysteria either - GT6 is far from ideal in terms of running regulated race series on, and the little glitches remain hidden until things like championships are ruined by them.
 
I'm officially pulling out of this. Too much hassle regarding specs plus I have never found a game to be as boring as GT6...
 
I'm officially pulling out of this. Too much hassle regarding specs plus I have never found a game to be as boring as GT6...

Noooooooooooooooo :( .

The car spec updates are coming with championship standing updates now as well.
 
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