Fuji 750 impressions

[junpeix555]

Agree.

I think the punting is not that bad as it may seem from reading through these threads....if you're patient and drive a bit cautious until you find some open space you can 90 percent of the time have a clean online race on Fuji. Just survive that first corner and and outdrive the punters and you should be set.

Ohio, I agree with you and this is what I try to do....but the problem is if you are using any other car besides the GTR, you are already at a handicap on the straight. Also, it doesn't help that the less skillful drivers can miss the braking point on the long straight, go off-roading, WOT it out of the grass area and be right back on your rear when you took the line perfectly just so you can get rammed in the next corner. They just need to make the grass the way it was, go off it and you are done for, just like real racing.

 

[Niks]

I think polyphony should do some qualifying-esque preselection for PRO races.
Want to race in the big leagues? First you have to show you are competitive!!

Good bye punters. Just an idea though...

 

[91hondawagon]

Ohio, I agree with you and this is what I try to do....but the problem is if you are using any other car besides the GTR, you are already at a handicap on the straight. Also, it doesn't help that the less skillful drivers can miss the braking point on the long straight, go off-roading, WOT it out of the grass area and be right back on your rear when you took the line perfectly just so you can get reared in the next corner. They just need to make the grass the way it was, go off it and you are done for, just like real racing.

Actually, the Clio Renault is very fast on the straight as well. One outran me when I was in a tuned Corvette, and I was drafting him. But yes, the GT-R has many advantages over almost all other cars on Fuji.

Grass is still a killer, but that's the trouble with Fuji; there hardly isn't any. Theres a little strip of grass at the outside edges of the track, but past that is the runoff tarmac. Suzuka is the best for getting rid of punters, simply because there's grass and sand everywhere. Once they run into the sand traps, it's almost impossible for them to catch up to the better drivers.

 

[junpeix555]

Actually, the Clio Renault is very fast on the straight as well. One outran me when I was in a tuned Corvette, and I was drafting him. But yes, the GT-R has many advantages over almost all other cars on Fuji.

Grass is still a killer, but that's the trouble with Fuji; there hardly isn't any. Theres a little strip of grass at the outside edges of the track, but past that is the runoff tarmac. Suzuka is the best for getting rid of punters, simply because there's grass and sand everywhere. Once they run into the sand traps, it's almost impossible for them to catch up to the better drivers.

OK, I stand corrected - they need to put grass everywhere in Fuji!

As for the Vette, it is really really slow now. I used to love it as it could run with the sk2, Ford GT's, etc. now they get pulled from R35 unless you are within 2-3 cars ...and then you start pulling on them maybe in 5th gear (talking about in a draft). Not sure about others, but the Vette is powered 420hp or something for me...pretty low compared to the 600hp plus the R is putting down, even with the weight difference.

*Edit - I never ran Fuji before this update but did the previous version hand out shortcut penalties for going on the run-off tarmac?

 

[L_Hamilton]

Once in a blue moon I get good races, but they're not the same..

 

[Nicksfix]

3 things come to mind concerning this race :
1.) 750pp
2.) Suzuka
3.) Beginner

These 3 things just do not mix well. Seriously,and I am not cutting on noobs , because we were all noobs at one time !!!. You take a noob,cranks his car up to 750,goes to Suzuka,(which is a very technical circuit) , and let him loose , and look what happens.Now we really can't blast him for being a full blown punter,because he is learning car set-ups,physics,track lay-out,and trying to deal with punters himself , he then gets it in his mind that this must be the way to race,because bad things are happening to him,obviously the wrong mindset for noobie.NOOBS if you get a chance , and this may be hard,but look for a "GTP" nametag and try to follow their driving style , then go into arcade mode and apply these tactics on single race mode,it will help you.Getting back to thread,it is chaotic running 750pp Suzuka,it's ok if you can get out in front early,then you got a shot at winning , because more than likely the others that make it through the carnage of 1st several corners will usually be good quality racers,I've won 750pp Suzuka , but it's a challenge !!! Good luck to all who enter this race.

 

[BreakerOhio]

removed.

 

[rabbitude]

The problem with fuji is most of corners have very late apex's, if you want to be quick you leave the door wide open for some hack to stick there nose in, try defending the line and you lose tons of time. In the real world this is a great track but people are not responsible enough in this game to have a good clean race, bring back suzuka...... please

 

[Nicksfix]

my bad , i said suzuka , meant fuji , sorry
but the same still applies to Suzuka

 

[Biggles]

Well I'm re-enforced in my opinion that 750PP on every course sucks. I didn't like 750PP on Suzuka, didn't like it on DR, & don't like it on Fuji. The cars pumped up to 750PP just don't feel right.

Since the update I have spent more time running TTs or even arcade races & I notice how much more enjoyable & realistic the cars feel in their stock state. The Z06 is great around DR, for example, whereas the 750PP tuned Corvette on DR felt totally arcadey. I'm convinced that the maximum PP should be around 650 - 700. Anything more than that should be left to dedicated race cars.

 

[MGR]

I dunno what some of you guys are doing? I get through turn one at Fuji relatively unscathed 95% of the time. I've had 100% clean races in the GTR (mainly because I get out front early and drive away) and I'm sure I've had plenty of other races with nothing more than a few rubs.

You get to know the various driving styles of the other competitors fairly quickly. Couple of instances I've had a driver behind me heading into the last turn, so I drive a defensive line knowing full well they'll try to have a go anyway. At the last moment I ease left while braking before turning right and watch them go sailing past on the inside, onto the grass verge and looping themselves around dropping several places in the process. So satisfying

 

[The Outlaw]

They really should have made the race a rolling start with 2 wide...big mistake

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Gotta admit I prefer suzuka but that's purely personal taste. Once again, noobs/crap drivers in 4wd's litter the track but they're easy enough to beat in the Ford GT-06. Up against a good driver in a nissan I'm still coming up short, due to manoeuvrability in corners (the R35 always manages to cut inside at high speed) but it's good racing with the 2 or 3 other 'drivers' on the track, once we've left the morass of T1 behind and there's a bunch of GT-R's and Mines playing dodgems and disapearing in my rearview.

Sometimes there's another driver in a vette or tuned viper up there with me and those races are sweet. Shame for the S2000's - I used to love racing against them at Suzuka but they just aren't competitive on Fuji.

All in all it just makes me want to repeat my plea for PD to offer RWD/AWD segregated racing. I have much more fun (win or lose) when I'm up against a pack of RWD's than I do when It's me v's the GT-R brigade.

... Oh and Bring back Suzuka!

 

[Dragonistic]

I dunno what some of you guys are doing? I get through turn one at Fuji relatively unscathed 95% of the time. I've had 100% clean races in the GTR (mainly because I get out front early and drive away) and I'm sure I've had plenty of other races with nothing more than a few rubs.

Because you're in a GTR, simple. You get the ridiculously fast start and then have basically the fastest car for the rest of the race.

Sometimes there's another driver in a vette or tuned viper up there with me and those races are sweet. Shame for the S2000's - I used to love racing against them at Suzuka but they just aren't competitive on Fuji.

The S2000 seems to have been hit by the points change far more then any other car, in its lightest state for the class (now 100% weight) and max downfroce you only get about 460bhp, which is quite frankly ridiculous.

 

[NLxAROSA]

The S2000 seems to have been hit by the points change far more then any other car, in its lightest state for the class (now 100% weight) and max downfroce you only get about 460bhp, which is quite frankly ridiculous.

More or less the same for the Vette/Tuned, Viper/Tuned and GTLM. You're better off with the 'untuned' version in 750PP. Unfortunately, the S2000 has no standard version (in Prologue anyway).

But I actually like this change in PP as it seperates the /Tuned cars from the regular ones, we just need a new 'King class' in Expert to be able to drive the faster cars again, preferrably 800PP or 850PP. If we get an event of this kind this will definitely be an RWD-only party.

 

[Dragonistic]

The viper, vette and GTLM all have much more torque though i believe.

 

[Kevin01SH]

i mainly race the tuned vette and have downforce all the way down, i figure i can wrestle the car through the tight bends toward the end and make up ground on the straight. most times though its not enough to keep up with the GTR, im still learning where i can run a good line and gain the most momentum coming off the last corner.

 

[Blitz187]

What does everyone have against AWD cars?!?!? And I always see people say that NOOBS drive AWDs.... thats just BS... I love driving AWDs... RWD is nice and stuff and challenging to drive but I just prefer AWD. I'm not a Noob.. been playing since GT1 and drive pretty good IMO.... but I just prefer the AWDs over RWD... dont know why just preference... Just because I like to drive AWD doesnt mean Im a noob or that I cant drive RWD...... so I dont get why that always gets associated with each other... just like the pad user vs wheel user question... WHO CARES... just do what you like and play however suits you....

 

[MGR]

Because you're in a GTR, simple. You get the ridiculously fast start and then have basically the fastest car for the rest of the race.

Dude, the GTR's quick off the line but it's not that quick. I've had clean races starting from the front, middle and right at the back. I just don't try to win the race in the first turn.

I've won races in other cars too with the only contact occurring in the first 2 or 3 corners. Amuse S2000, Ford GT etc.

 

[MGR]

What does everyone have against AWD cars?!?!? And I always see people say that NOOBS drive AWDs.... thats just BS... I love driving AWDs... RWD is nice and stuff and challenging to drive but I just prefer AWD. I'm not a Noob.. been playing since GT1 and drive pretty good IMO.... but I just prefer the AWDs over RWD... dont know why just preference... Just because I like to drive AWD doesnt mean Im a noob or that I cant drive RWD...... so I dont get why that always gets associated with each other... just like the pad user vs wheel user question... WHO CARES... just do what you like and play however suits you....

4WDs are generally far easier to control than the RWD cars. Therefore more often than not they are the choice of many 'noob' drivers.

However many people will make broad sweeping generalisations. You know, like you did in your first sentence.

 

[Timppaq]

 

[Blitz187]

However many people will make broad sweeping generalisations. You know, like you did in your first sentence.

That is true... I wanted to direct it towards one of the previous posts, but then I went the general route.. LOL... ok point well taken

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

I've fallen foul of this accusation before which is why I had to stop calling them 'noobwagons' and also why I made the distinction 'noobs/crap drivers in 4wd's'

I even said in my post 'Up against a good driver in a nissan I'm still coming up short' I accept that there are good drivers using 4wd cars but I stand by the accusation that most of the idiots seem to be driving them too.

Personally I don't enjoy driving them as much as RWD's but that's a personal preference and I'd never call out anyone on that. I do prefer to be up against other RWD's in a race tho - seems to make for a better race (again personal preference)

 

[NLxAROSA]

Just because 'A ball is always a round object' does not mean the reverse is also true: 'A round object is always a ball'. The same applies to the statement: 'All noobs are 4WD drivers'. It is not the same as 'All 4WD drivers are noobs'. You can most definitely say the first as it does not imply the second. But most people can't make that (subtle) distinction and get all pissed off about it.

 

[Blitz187]

I've fallen foul of this accusation before which is why I had to stop calling them 'noobwagons' and also why I made the distinction 'noobs/crap drivers in 4wd's'

I even said in my post 'Up against a good driver in a nissan I'm still coming up short' I accept that there are good drivers using 4wd cars but I stand by the accusation that most of the idiots seem to be driving them too.

Personally I don't enjoy driving them as much as RWD's but that's a personal preference and I'd never call out anyone on that. I do prefer to be up against other RWD's in a race tho - seems to make for a better race (again personal preference)

No worries man... nobody mad here LOL... I was just wondering why those associations are always made... but its all been answered! I'll see you on the track in my AWD lol... I promise I wont punt

 

[=ReBeL=]

Just because 'A ball is always a round object' does not mean the reverse is also true: 'A round object is always a ball'. The same applies to the statement: 'All noobs are 4WD drivers'. It is not the same as 'All 4WD drivers are noobs'. You can most definitely say the first as it does not imply the second. But most people can't make that (subtle) distinction and get all pissed off about it.

Well said mate 👍

 

[Keef]

Damn right! its like the wacky races down there! Too many cars trying to take the same corner at the same time, its like that all the time. There is no racing etiquette whatsoever, just talentless punters ruining a good race!

It doesn't help that there are some VERY generous run-off areas too. I have seen people blatantly cutting corners, or take them very wide at full speed, and get no penalty whatsoever! I thought the patch was supposed to sort this out (along with the punting)?

Fuji 750pp has to be the cheesiest race of this update!

How many times has this sort of thing been posted in these three pages? And here's another one. Besides the fact that I won it four times, the punting is just ridiculous. When cars come off the runoff area they'll plow straight into you and into the other runoff area. People obviously don't care that this Fuji track has many corners which require some major finesse. They're just playing pinball.

If I can manage to start in the first two rows I would usually run away with it after the first corner because all those fools had a Monster Jam. I don't see any way I can be pulling from them by nearly a second every lap unless they're all back there beating and banging with nobody making any progress. Mid 1:38 laps are pretty common with cars this fast, and I know I'm not the only one who can run that if nobody is around to screw with me. I've had a few of these punters on my tail and guess what...they usually can't keep up. Crappy drivers doing desperate things to get ahead.

 

[kart racer]

Time to play devils advocate. Some of the rwd drives turn the down force to the minimum. And some with the tc off. And when they open up the throttle the car starts to go sideways and jump around as the driver tries to regain control. Now to someone trying to pass see's this and thinks " what a noob " and thinks that all drivers in rwd cars are hacks. Now I know ( and most of us here ) understand that it is hard to keep the back end at the back. But you can see my point.

 

[Dragonistic]

Dude, the GTR's quick off the line but it's not that quick. I've had clean races starting from the front, middle and right at the back. I just don't try to win the race in the first turn.

I've won races in other cars too with the only contact occurring in the first 2 or 3 corners. Amuse S2000, Ford GT etc.

I usually have clean races myself to, but just one guy can ruin the race before you get going.

 

[Kevin01SH]

The punting has got to stop...

I had to quit playing earlier b/c it was so bad, it wasnt just the first corner it was the whole lap. it NEVER fails i hit the brakes to slow down and take a sharp turn and someone nudges me from behind and i go flying into the barrier while they continue on w/ no penalty. Then on the last corner before the straight away i swing wide to get a good line and carry speed and they dip underneath and knock you off your line again with no penalty.

Most of my racing was done during the day against international drivers, the ONLY clean driver i raced with was an american. I sent one spanish guy a harsh message after he took me out and he replied back "jodete" which i found out means go **** yourself