Getting car .... NOW... 2008 gti 6speed

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Unfortunately, the people at the dealerships would let me test drive one until I was "ready to buy"đź‘Ž. I'm not sure how they are going to get any business like that. How am I supposed to know if I want to buy If I don't know what its like?!?:ouch: Hopefully I will find another similar one at a decent lot.
 
when i getz my car i am thinking about some type of celica supra '84 or a '90 celica. because i lolz at nissan.
 
Get something super cheap. Preferably a Toyota, maybe a Civic. The lighter weight the better. It should be fun to drive, eager if not fast and it'll be alright on the gas.
Because as a male with a first car, you will give it hell. And Toyotas will live through anything. Super reliable. Plus if you bend it, you won't have to shell out to fix it.

Also, having RWD makes pretty much anything more entertaining.
 
BayConRong
when i getz my car i am thinking about some type of celica supra '84 or a '90 celica. because i lolz at nissan.
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Don't listen to him, Nissan is every bit as reliable as Toyota and Honda from that era. :crazy:
 
Someone that lives near Gt pro when he gets his uber tyte skylin3 should call the cops and report him driving it. Multiple times, until his license gets taken away or something. That will keep a kid with too much money off the street a bit, and will hopefully save a GT-R for someone that actually can drive one.
 
VIPERGTSR01
Ignoring the rest of the post, because frankly I can't be bothered with how wrong it is



You would think MUCH more of $10,000 when you have to earn that money yourself. If I were your parents I would be ashamed of you if I saw you like this..... :indiff:
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Greater truth has never been spoken. GT Pro, you are naive beyond belief.

Socom, I suggested a Tercel last time. Still will. They are a great first car because of price, the ton of wrecked ones you can get parts from, and the weight with gas mileage. Its what I learned to drive on and most people say I have absurdly good braking and steering work, which translated instantly to the faster car, my MR2.

Oh, and on this...

Jim Prower
Meh, you're just starting out. You want something you can beat up and not worry about it.

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One of those, with the 4A-C, and a stick. Will start every time, get you where you need to go, keep you out of trouble, and you can drop a 4A-GE in when you want to get into trouble.

I own an AE82 4-door with the 4A-C and an Auto. and a Chevrolet badge, but that's aside the point: it's a good, solid car for minimal money.
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Yes, he can put a 4A-GE into it, provided he also puts in the brakes, transmission, differential, driveshafts, and suspension bits.

So basically, provided he has a GT-S to use for parts... oh wait...

If you want to insist on old Geo/Chevy badged Corollas, at least go with the AE90 series Prizm GSi.
 
socomplayer2
Unfortunately, the people at the dealerships would let me test drive one until I was "ready to buy"đź‘Ž. I'm not sure how they are going to get any business like that. How am I supposed to know if I want to buy If I don't know what its like?!?:ouch: Hopefully I will find another similar one at a decent lot.
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Bad luck mate, the trick is to lie to dealers, because all salesman in car lots are desperate for a sale, not to help you out in the slightest.

As for the Tercel, wouldn't there be more wrecked Camaros than them to get parts off if you owned a Camaro V6? A Camaro would be good to learn in because it has enough power (say you're actually at a race track) to get sideways and you'll inevitably learn how to gain better traction and thottle control than on a 4cyl. And of course you'd need precise steering inputs as the car is larger.
 
Azuremen
If you want to insist on old Geo/Chevy badged Corollas, at least go with the AE90 series Prizm GSi.
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I second this suggestion. Those *cough*Geo's where quite good cars. They get good MPG and are low on insurance. And since it (optional) uses the wonderfully cool Toyota 4A-GE series engine you can mod the hell out of it if you wated to, stock it comes 115BHP. The base 4A-FE is only down 10BHP from the MR2 spec 4A-GE (in American trim) @105BHP. If you get the last generation "Chevrolet" Prism you could get the optional 1ZZ-FE 4cyl which has VVTI. Its rather fun to drive considering it is a Corolla in disguise, it was 125BHP and 125lb.ft.
 
But the guy's in Australia...they didn't sell it there...That's why I showed a picture of a Corolla. An AU Corolla at that.
 
socomplayer2
Unfortunately, the people at the dealerships would let me test drive one until I was "ready to buy"đź‘Ž. I'm not sure how they are going to get any business like that. How am I supposed to know if I want to buy If I don't know what its like?!?:ouch: Hopefully I will find another similar one at a decent lot.
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Hmm. They probably just don't want the liability of a 16-year old running around in their cars. You could try getting your dad out there and seeing if he can get a drive, and then having you take a turn at the wheel during the drive.

It's not that they don't want anybody driving their cars, it's that you look like a kid fooling around that will probably get in trouble to them.
 
socomplayer2
Unfortunately, the people at the dealerships would let me test drive one until I was "ready to buy"đź‘Ž. I'm not sure how they are going to get any business like that. How am I supposed to know if I want to buy If I don't know what its like?!?:ouch: Hopefully I will find another similar one at a decent lot.
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That sucks! Tell them you've been looking everywhere for a Camaro, and you were very close to buying it the second you saw it, then had your dad talk some sense into you on taking it for a test drive

:lol:@ the dealer
 
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Bad luck mate, the trick is to lie to dealers, because all salesman in car lots are desperate for a sale, not to help you out in the slightest.

As for the Tercel, wouldn't there be more wrecked Camaros than them to get parts off if you owned a Camaro V6? A Camaro would be good to learn in because it has enough power (say you're actually at a race track) to get sideways and you'll inevitably learn how to gain better traction and thottle control than on a 4cyl. And of course you'd need precise steering inputs as the car is larger.
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How much actual track time to do you have? Or experience driving FF? He'll be working with something that weighs an extra thousand pounds. More power is the last thing you need to learn - getting sideways with power is the complete noobs method. Learning proper braking and steering work (which is more responsive the lighter the car) is the key to good driving. Why do you think Miata's are so popular for instruction cars, or in general?

Dealers generally wouldn't let a kid touch their stuff if he is looking at buying soon. Its an excuse they hear all the time from kids wanting to go trash something.
 
socomplayer2
Unfortunately, the people at the dealerships would let me test drive one until I was "ready to buy"đź‘Ž. I'm not sure how they are going to get any business like that. How am I supposed to know if I want to buy If I don't know what its like?!?:ouch: Hopefully I will find another similar one at a decent lot.
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If you want to test drive something, your best bet is to find it for sale privately.
 
Azuremen
How much actual track time to do you have? Or experience driving FF? He'll be working with something that weighs an extra thousand pounds. More power is the last thing you need to learn - getting sideways with power is the complete noobs method. Learning proper braking and steering work (which is more responsive the lighter the car) is the key to good driving. Why do you think Miata's are so popular for instruction cars, or in general?
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Alright, you got me :sly: I run on theory mostly, with little track time so far. Now with all due respect, a Camaro V6 isn't that powerful. And you'd surely want RWD to learn in so you know the characteristics of that drivetrain. The reason I always thought that they used Miatas as learner cars (although in Australia you're more likely to get a WRX or Lancer at a performance driving school :rolleyes: ) is because they're not powerful, but still quick. That way they can handle the car without being too dangerous but still be moving quickly thanks to the weight and be in touch with the car as it's relatively small. That's my theory, but in truth- other than things you can only learn in a car- shouldn't we all be learning on go-karts?
 
Get a Nissan Versa. More interior and trunk space than an Infiniti G35, yet it gets 36 mpg, and you can get it with a 6 speed manual. It's reliable, because it's a Nissan, and it's fun to drive because it's only 2700 lbs. And its base price is only $14,000, and it's less than $17,000 fully loaded. The best part is that it has more rear set legroom than a Ford Crown Victoria.
 
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Alright, you got me :sly: I run on theory mostly, with little track time so far. Now with all due respect, a Camaro V6 isn't that powerful. And you'd surely want RWD to learn in so you know the characteristics of that drivetrain. The reason I always thought that they used Miatas as learner cars is because they're not powerful, but still quick. That way they can handle the car without being too dangerous but still be moving quickly thanks to the weight and be in touch with the car as it's relatively small. That's my theory, but in truth- other than things you can only learn in a car- shouldn't we all be learning on go-karts?
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With all due respect to you Camaro/Firebird V6's are not only faster than a Miata in a straight line but are much more fun power sliding. Yes Miatas make good autocross and track cars--but that's only because of the light weight. Fbodies can be good autocrossers too. And so I'm clear, Miatas are NOT "quick". Not in the least. They are slow as molasses. Paint dries faster than a Miata gets down a drag strip. They are hugely uncomfortable and they make a rather rubbish noise. The only positive thing I have to say about a Miata is their build quality is perfect and they will last forever.

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If you want a small go-kart that is quick, fun to drive, and an average sized male can fit in comfortably then get one of these:
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I meant that the V6 Camaro is no firebreathing monster. I know that my car (a similary powered V6 only lighter than a Camaro) is not super quick. Top speed as standard is 200km/hr. 1/4 mile is a 16 flat. It's not quick, but can be made quick. The Camaro would be the same wouldn't it? Enough power to have fun, not enough power that you won't learn in it or anything. That said the MR-2 would be a good go-kart, but then as a GM sort of person that I am, I'd want something from GM- again that's just me and no one has to change their opinion to suit.

Edit: Miatas can corner quickly though can't they? That's where you'd learn the most, cornering.
 
JCE
They are slow as molasses. Paint dries faster than a Miata gets down a drag strip.
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It's unfortunate that in the real world there's turns too, isn't it?

EDIT: And unless that Mr2 is supercharged (good luck with that) it's just as slow as a Miata, and the same (maybe a bit quicker) in the corners.
 
Then again, I still hold the view most races people ever participate in is drag racing- circuit racing nearly has to be organised and competitive to compete in, otherwise we are all just having some fun (which is good). So really you don't need a car that's quick around corners unless you will be entering competitve competition. Drag racing is a world wide standard, you can say how quick your car does the 1/4 and if it beats the othe person's PB then you can say that you've won that race. Give someone your lap time at your local race track and no one will know what it means to be so and so quick. Because you can't compare different tracks, do you know what I'm trying to say?
I guess it means, you want a car that's fun to drive around a track, but can still go fast enough in a straight line.
 
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I guess it means, you want a car that's fun to drive around a track, but can still go fast enough in a straight line.
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Yeah, after you learn how to drive. In an extreme example, put someone in a F1 car or a Dragster and let them learn how to drive well. Good luck with that.

There's probably no way to better teach yourself how to drive than learn to be fast in something underpowered.
 
buttsneeze
Get a Nissan Versa. More interior and trunk space than an Infiniti G35, yet it gets 36 mpg, and you can get it with a 6 speed manual. It's reliable, because it's a Nissan, and it's fun to drive because it's only 2700 lbs. And its base price is only $14,000, and it's less than $17,000 fully loaded. The best part is that it has more rear set legroom than a Ford Crown Victoria.
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I never really looked into it but it sounds like a good idea. (goes to nissan website):)
 
Perfect Balance
It's unfortunate that in the real world there's turns too, isn't it?

EDIT: And unless that Mr2 is supercharged (good luck with that) it's just as slow as a Miata, and the same (maybe a bit quicker) in the corners.
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Like I said, the Miata is great at cornering--but so is the MR2 as you well know. And that pic was of a SC MkI. If you recall my brother and I are restoring a MkI N/A MR2 so I'm well aware on how not fast in a straight line it is. :D

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And a Camaro V6 by comparison is underpowered.
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Underpowered for what? 0-60mph in 7-ish seconds, plus the ability to actually corner well for a car that size. I don't see a problem here. While the 3.4L isn't the best V6--the 3.8L that replaced it was. Even the Mustang V6 isn't as bad as one would think. Underpowered compared to the V8 models yes, underpowered as a RWD coupe in general it isn't.
 
JCE
Like I said, the Miata is great at cornering--but so is the MR2 as you well know. And that pic was of a SC MkI. If you recall my brother and I are restoring a MkI N/A MR2 so I'm well aware on how not fast in a straight line it is. :D
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Yeah, but you called the mr2 "quick" but the Miata "as slow as molllasses." Even the SC version only has 20 hp or so at the wheels. It's still slow.
 
But in all honesty you can't tell me you think a naturally aspirated V6 Camaro is too much power for a beginner, I find my Ute easier to drive than any 4cyl I've driven so far. (Although at a motor show I sat in a Skoda Octavia RS- loved the pedal setup, and driving position :drool: )
 
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But in all honesty you can't tell me you think a naturally aspirated V6 Camaro is too much power for a beginner, I find my Ute easier to drive than any 4cyl I've driven so far. (Although at a motor show I sat in a Skoda Octavia RS- loved the pedal setup, and driving position :drool: )
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No I consider it a waste of money.

EDIT: *puts on flamesuit*
 
Perfect Balance
Yeah, but you called the mr2 "quick" but the Miata "as slow as molllasses." Even the SC version only has 20 hp or so at the wheels. It's still slow.
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145bhp versus 115bhp is more than 20bhp. And it is quicker than the Miata, so yes its quick.

Year - Make - Model - 0-60mph - 1/4mi
1990 Mazda Miata 9.4 16.9
2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata 6.7 15.2 (C&D Sept '05)
1986 Toyota MR2 8.4 16.5
1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged 6.5 15.0

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

So it took Mazda 16 years or so to get close to matching the MR2 supercharged 0-60 times? AND, the regular 115bhp MR2 was still faster than the newer 1990 MX-5. Yes, the MR2 is quick. Can we move on?
 
EDIT: Wrong thread, wrong time.

Still, I think finding a SC mr2 in worthy condition is going to be difficult.

EDIT #2: And his budget is "under 10k"

You can find a way better car for the money. Although I would definitely find one with a good body and use the rest of the money on parts and a 20valve 4ag swap, but that's just me.
 
Well I have a Jeep Wrangler, it's a good beginner's vehicle.

1. manual transmission - check
2. fit 4 people comfortably - check
3. preferred awd but pretty negotiable - 4wd so check
4. reliable - check not to mention easy to repair
5. fun to drive - check especially off-road (cept not when it's windy)
6. ok on gas - check, gets around 16/22 course mine is carbureted and needs a new engine...but that's beside the point.

Oh yah, forgot to mention I picked mine up for $2500 though try to stick with models later than '90, due to them having the EFI 4.0 I6.
 

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