Gran Turismo 5 Customization?

[xNEVER-ONEx]

Well, me personally, I don't live in your black & white world and am quite happy to try GT5 to see how it stacks up against FM3. I'm sure someone will reply with the usual "GT will stomp all over Forza" rhetoric, but they're not me, so its mute. Heck, if it wasn't off topic, I could list several racing game franchises I'm a fan of, simply to prove the point that Forza fans aren't mutually exclusive from GT fans.

i dont own a 360, but i enjoyed forza at a friend's house (he sold it because he doesnt like racing games) and like you, i am a fan of racing sims, not necessarily just GT, though GT I have the most fun on GT by a long shot

 

[CoolColJ]

The green/yellow paint scheme is interesting. It changes under the light

 

[Slurm]

Something I else I was thinking about..that Slip already commented on.

That's exactly what I think. We have all seen this video, and it's obvious something has been done to the Tuscan.



Here is the factory version.

Are we looking at the Racing Modification? A Body kit of some type?

Another thing I have thought over is that Kaz said no livery editor, but said nothing about no liveries at all. We still could see several dozen manufacturer liveries and flags (for example) to place on our car.

You make some good points. And I fixed your youtube link (just put the numbers that follow the = sign between the youtube tags.)

Anyway, I remember that Tuscan from a while back, but seeing it again now, and knowing what we know, it's clearly been race modified. It has side exit exhausts, diffuser, carbon air dam etc... Not to mention the huge wheels and tyres Although, having said that, it's referred to as "tuned car" so who knows? Maybe this is a pre-race mod Tuscan. If so - wow.

And spot-on about liveries too. No editor doesn't mean no liveries at all. Another thing that occurred to me is that paint will be on a separate layer to any decals / vinyls that sit on a car, so we will probably be able to change the colour of pre-liveried cars too.

 

[CoolColJ]

Different kinds of paints on the FT-86G - wth livery intact

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[Leonidae@MFT]

If racing modifications are back in, I certainly hope it allows replicating this:

 

[sher_da_putt]

You make some good points. And I fixed your youtube link (just put the numbers that follow the = sign between the youtube tags.)

Anyway, I remember that Tuscan from a while back, but seeing it again now, and knowing what we know, it's clearly been race modified. It has side exit exhausts, diffuser, carbon air dam etc... Not to mention the huge wheels and tyres Although, having said that, it's referred to as "tuned car" so who knows? Maybe this is a pre-race mod Tuscan. If so - wow.

And spot-on about liveries too. No editor doesn't mean no liveries at all. Another thing that occurred to me is that paint will be on a separate layer to any decals / vinyls that sit on a car, so we will probably be able to change the colour of pre-liveried cars too.

You talk about big wheels and a diffuser, just remember that these things should be doable without racing mod judging by this screenshot.

You have just made me realize something I shouldn't have noticed before... seeing as the wheels on the tuned version are bigger than the original, atleast we know we will be able to change the size of the wheels FINALY!

 

[SlipZtrEm]

You have just made me realize something I shouldn't have noticed before... seeing as the wheels on the tuned version are bigger than the original, atleast we know we will be able to change the size of the wheels FINALY!

We could in GT4, we just had no control over the specifics (and we don't know if that'll change in GT5). Equipping any R-class tires bumped the rim size up noticeably over stock.

The Tuscan is interesting... it looks like a Tuned car, not a Race Mod, but the side-exit exhaust leads me to think it might be the latter... or a PD-provided halfway-there kind of situation.

 

[sher_da_putt]

We could in GT4, we just had no control over the specifics (and we don't know if that'll change in GT5). Equipping any R-class tires bumped the rim size up noticeably over stock.

The Tuscan is interesting... it looks like a Tuned car, not a Race Mod, but the side-exit exhaust leads me to think it might be the latter... or a PD-provided halfway-there kind of situation.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? After all these years I didn't know that?!! Im gonna play GT4 now! lol!

And lets be honest If we wont be able to change rim size in GT5 that would be quite surprising...

I hope the tuscan is achievable without the race mod, I mean the picture I posted suggests most of the thing are possible.

 

[TK42OnE]

Cool video with the TVR!!

Here's my assumption, which is largely based on wishful thinking.

It maybe a limited customization/livery editor for when you get the final, race kit mod, body style for your car. One thing I noticed was the british flags on the side and the rear of the car. I'm no expert on the Tuscan TVR, is it British? (edit: After doing some research, turns out the TVR is manufactured in England)

If not, that may be one of the small personal touches we'll be able to add to our tuned race body cars. At least I hope that's the case.

As someone else mentioned, making a car "mine" was one of my favorite things to do in gt2. Hopefully this interesting video is proof that something similar might be in gt5!!!

 

[broken]

Do you think we will be able to paint the cars we get with the collectors/signature editions ?
I don't want the chromeline cars to have lines on
wonder if we could paint the stealth cars......
just a thought

 

[analog]

One thing I noticed was the british flags on the side and the rear of the car. I'm no expert on the Tuscan TVR, is it British?

If not, that may be one of the small personal touches we'll be able to add to our tuned race body cars. At least I hope that's the case.

TVR is indeed British ( although the company was bought by a 24-year old Russian and since then basically non-existent, although rumours of a "come-back" persist ).
One may not rule out the other, could be that adding a flag of any nation to your car might be possible regardless of the origins of the car, I say might be as we simply don't know yet.

 

[TK42OnE]

^^ I certainly hope so. Would be a nice touch. That TVR looked nice with the tires and other little modifications.

I think I'll watch that vid again.

 

[maxpontiac]

You make some good points. And I fixed your youtube link (just put the numbers that follow the = sign between the youtube tags.)

Anyway, I remember that Tuscan from a while back, but seeing it again now, and knowing what we know, it's clearly been race modified. It has side exit exhausts, diffuser, carbon air dam etc... Not to mention the huge wheels and tyres Although, having said that, it's referred to as "tuned car" so who knows? Maybe this is a pre-race mod Tuscan. If so - wow.

And spot-on about liveries too. No editor doesn't mean no liveries at all. Another thing that occurred to me is that paint will be on a separate layer to any decals / vinyls that sit on a car, so we will probably be able to change the colour of pre-liveried cars too.

Ahh, thanks for the assist on the YouTube link.👍

After re-watching that video several times, I am further convinced that we were givin a sample of what to expect with the customization feature in GT5.

That video (to me) shows either PD's automated livery application that's similar to GT2, or it's something that they threw together for an example. I also believe that liveries like this can applied to the Standard cars as well.

The Tuscan is interesting... it looks like a Tuned car, not a Race Mod, but the side-exit exhaust leads me to think it might be the latter... or a PD-provided halfway-there kind of situation.

At the end of the video the Tuscan is referred to as a "Tuned Car" so I am forced to believe that the Race Mod has yet to be seen other then Citroen by GT that can be viewed in the news section on the front page of this site.

I mean afterall, PD has stated that each Premium car takes 6 months to complete. Makes sense when figure the necessary time required to visually depict each modifaction. Of course, my entire opinion is based on my assumption of the Citroen race machine.

Do you think we will be able to paint the cars we get with the collectors/signature editions ?
I don't want the chromeline cars to have lines on
wonder if we could paint the stealth cars......
just a thought

I believe the "Stealth" and "Chrome" cars are another example of what to expect from the customization section in GT5.

I really believe the screen shot of GTAuto confirms at least the body modifications section.

Perhaps the chrome paint and carbon fiber parts are more of a bonus to those who pre-order and thus saving them in game credits.

^^ I certainly hope so. Would be a nice touch. That TVR looked nice with the tires and other little modifications.

I think I'll watch that vid again.

Sure gets the imagination going into overdrive doesn't it? I keep remembering the insane amount of time I spent on GT4 without all of this.

Throw the customization and online components in, my copy of GT5 might not ever leave my PS3.

 

[eSZee]

This is nothing new, really. From the beginning a few were saying the Tuscan was a showcase for GT5 customization options. The once race mods were confirmed, some thought the Tuscan might be a sample of that. The stealth and CHROMELINE cars are likely not as I would hope they made them rare enough to to not be user creatable.

 

[FDM73]

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news but the TVR Tuscan in this racemodification is also in Toca race driver 3. So I think you can buy the Tuscan as a normal roadcar and as racespec. Just like the Audi R8 on the PSP is the racespec based on a real life counterpart, i think it was used in the britisch GT championship around 2004.

 

[Fredde_swe]

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news but the TVR Tuscan in this racemodification is also in Toca race driver 3. So I think you can buy the Tuscan as a normal roadcar and as racespec. Just like the Audi R8 on the PSP is the racespec based on a real life counterpart, i think it was used in the britisch GT championship around 2004.

Nope, it's definitely not the same car as in Toca Race Driver 3

However, PD has certainly been inspired by the real thing when they created what they did.

 

[maxpontiac]

This is nothing new, really. From the beginning a few were saying the Tuscan was a showcase for GT5 customization options. The once race mods were confirmed, some thought the Tuscan might be a sample of that. The stealth and CHROMELINE cars are likely not as I would hope they made them rare enough to to not be user creatable.

New to us, but thanks for the heads up. I hear you, but I am not sure in what to think with the pre-order cars, especially after seeing the GTAuto screens.

Nope, it's definitely not the same car as in Toca Race Driver 3

However, PD has certainly been inspired by the real thing when they created what they did.

Indeed. I honestly believe that Tuner shops could be a thing of the past, or at least severely limited.

If the body shop is nothing more then adding the carbon fiber parts in a similar manner that GT5P had, the Tuner shop will be back more or less the same.

 

[eSZee]

New to us, but thanks for the heads up. I hear you, but I am not sure in what to think with the pre-order cars, especially after seeing the GTAuto screens.

Is us pretty much just you?

 

[maxpontiac]

Is us pretty much just you?

Last time I checked, I wasn't posting to myself. Perhaps you failed to see the other people posting?💡

 

[Griffith500]

Nope, it's definitely not the same car as in Toca Race Driver 3

However, PD has certainly been inspired by the real thing when they created what they did.

[pics]

That's a T400R / Tuscan R, right? Maybe that would be possible with the "racing modify menu", whilst the black "Tuned" Tuscan was created from the other bits and bobs, i.e. wheels and the apparent "body kit" section in GT Auto? I've no explanation for the "decals", though...

Then again, there was the T440R, too - a road car, though I don't remember if it ever made production.

EDIT: It did, and there was also a T400 road car, and a very similar "Typhon" some time before that - all of which use a different chassis to the Tuscan. Well, if none of these appear in GT5, it could be cool to have a Tuscan racemodify into a T400R

 

[Talon]

I'm sure its been discussed before, but since I don't feel like digging through hundreds of pages of posts, can someone explain the white 350Z at the beginning of the Tuscan vid?

 

[sher_da_putt]

All I want to say is I played Forza 3 the other night for the first time and as a Gran Turismo uber Fan I was jealous of two things

1. The car line up. E30 m3, Golf mk 2, Fiat abarth 131, Audi sport quattro and all those porches
2. More to the point, customization.

In terms of customization Forza gives you more of an opportunity to make the cars feel unique, Its not even the livery editor... Its just the ability to changes bumbers and stuff like that. But atleast we know that we can do these sort of things with the latest updates from TGS.

I know what you're gonna say 'If you love forza so much go buy it'

'Whats Forza got to do with anything'

Well I know GT5 trumps forza in so many ways after playing it the other night especially in graphics and gameplay, and answering the second thing Forza is just a good example to explain what I want in terms of customization in GT5.

If we can just change wheel size, add body kits, engine tune how we have always been able to in past GT's than at least when I have a car in GT5 it doesn't just feel like any other car, but instead it feels like my own car.

 

[Fredde_swe]

That's a T400R / Tuscan R, right? Maybe that would be possible with the "racing modify menu", whilst the black "Tuned" Tuscan was created from the other bits and bobs, i.e. wheels and the apparent "body kit" section in GT Auto? I've no explanation for the "decals", though...

Then again, there was the T440R, too - a road car, though I don't remember if it ever made production.

EDIT: It did, and there was also a T400 road car, and a very similar "Typhon" some time before that - all of which use a different chassis to the Tuscan. Well, if none of these appear in GT5, it could be cool to have a Tuscan racemodify into a T400R

Yes, that was a T400R

Here's my theory

The tuned Tuscan and tuned Cappuccino (GT5P) are examples of how a racing modified car will look like in GT5. As you can see they have some major modifications and also have decals which I think will be included in the racing modification package. With racing modification you won't be able to choose parts separately, you can only choose a whole package.

The tuned Corvette, 111R, Viper, Evo X from GT5P are examples of how I light modified car will look like. You will be able to add splitters, diffusers, spoilers, replace front/rear bumper and sideskirts.

Some cars in GT5P also had carbon fiber roofs. I think you can buy replace stuff like that at the same place as you could buy a carbon fiber hood.

But as I said, this is just my theory/dream

 

[Dapper]

The tuned Tuscan and tuned Cappuccino (GT5P) are examples of how a racing modified car will look like in GT5. :

I know all about the Tuned Cappuccino (it is the best car in GT5P!), but a tuned tuscan??

 

[Fredde_swe]

I know all about the Tuned Cappuccino (it is the best car in GT5P!), but a tuned tuscan??

This one, we have seen in a replay from Nurburgring and was also seen in the E3-trailer

 

[eSZee]

I'm sure its been discussed before, but since I don't feel like digging through hundreds of pages of posts, can someone explain the white 350Z at the beginning of the Tuscan vid?

Nismo 380RS Superleggera

http://www.simotorsports.net/index....:amuse-nissan-380rs-superleggera-ultimate-z33

 

[MGS2 Snake]

In a perfect world, it means all three.

But I am going with body customization and a livery editor.

Me too.👍
But the Livery editor sounds to good to be true

 

[happycorey]

All I want to say is I played Forza 3 the other night for the first time and as a Gran Turismo uber Fan I was jealous of two things

1. The car line up. E30 m3, Golf mk 2, Fiat abarth 131, Audi sport quattro and all those porches
2. More to the point, customization.

In terms of customization Forza gives you more of an opportunity to make the cars feel unique, Its not even the livery editor... Its just the ability to changes bumbers and stuff like that. But atleast we know that we can do these sort of things with the latest updates from TGS.

I know what you're gonna say 'If you love forza so much go buy it'

'Whats Forza got to do with anything'

Well I know GT5 trumps forza in so many ways after playing it the other night especially in graphics and gameplay, and answering the second thing Forza is just a good example to explain what I want in terms of customization in GT5.

If we can just change wheel size, add body kits, engine tune how we have always been able to in past GT's than at least when I have a car in GT5 it doesn't just feel like any other car, but instead it feels like my own car.

I know what you mean in every aspect. GT is so perfect in so many ways, but I feel like GT is so traditional, it isn't aware of the aftermarket side of things, since it's so wrapped up in original manufacture parts. There are tuning companies in GT, but those cars are only represented, not necessarily their parts for cars (visually) but just there in 'spirit.' Forza is there on almost all levels of customization. If there isn't an aftermarket/OEM specific lip spoiler or other kind of part for the car, there is ALWAYS 'Forza diffuser' front and rear, which I imagine is going to be along the lines of 'Concept by GT'.

In GT it's going to be hard to get everything up to 'code' with 1000 cars, but at the same times there are other things holding it back, and even a livery editor is the last on the list. There are a lot of fault in GT4 with tuning, being restricted to only a NA upgrade, or a supercharger on a Viper, with NO option for a turbo.. Forza on the other hand I can turbo, supercharge, or just tweak the internals of the motor for more NA power. Then deeper on forced induction, I can twin turbo, or just run a single turbo, and then I can centrifugal or roots supercharger. So many options for all kinds of vehicles, and all of them are realistic. I don't know what options GT5 will hold, and there are signs of it being kinda like FM3s, but given it's past history it has A LOT of ground to make up to be able to compete with a lot of people who are car enthusiasts and purists all of the like

 

[VXR]

One thing I find is often overlooked, FM was created to encapsulate car culture; to reflect what real world people are doing to their cars and to allow creative people to express themselves, like the tuner market does. The racing side of it was the 'job' and the customization and car selling was the part of the game they wanted to offer. There's been straight GT clones (Sega GT being the most obvious) and it was pretty much a slavish copy, but Forza has offered something beyond the racing.

In comparison, the cars in GT have always been treated like museum pieces, collected by people and largely remaining standard throughout the game.

 

[ProjectVRD]

If there is a livery edittor I am going to make on of my cars look rusty as hell.